Canada - Timothy Bosma, 32, Hamilton Ontario, 6 May 2013 - #5 **ARREST**

[LadyL]

Ok, I've been sitting on this link for hours now. I was waiting for confirmation that it was ok to post. I believe it is because it's primarily about the millardair, rather than delving to deeply into the personal lives of the family. But, there are a number of pictures of CM and a few of WM in their younger days. This is public domain file, available for anyone, so I believe it should be ok to post here.
It's book, so you'll need to start at page 56 to view the Millardair portion.

http://www.mississauga.ca/file/COM/9634_MaltonBook_PartThree.pdf

Dellen really looks like his dad & grandpa.

 

[LayzeeDayzee]

Yes, at the request of the family.

But can't it still slip out and then the info spread around? There had to have been many, many people who were aware that he'd apparently committed suicide (all it takes is one person to 'share' such scandalous info and then, like a rumour, it spreads and spreads). You don't think that DM would have confided in his friends about it?

 

[Sillybilly]

He was in his 70's...don't you think a murderer would just wait a little longer it would have resolved naturally? No evidence to say that the man didn't have reasons to live or die at his own hand. His suicide was investigated by the Toronto Police and found, with the aid of the coroner, to be a suicide.

Well, WM's dad lived to 92 or 93 y.o. .. maybe someone didn't have the patience to see how that might work for them. And earlier someone posted links to articles that indicate LE is revisiting the circumstances surrounding WM's death. Maybe the initial findings will simply be substantiated, or maybe something new will come to light as a result of the current case against DM.

JMO

 

[wayout66]

Well, WM's dad lived to 92 or 93 y.o. .. maybe someone didn't have the patience to see how that might work for them. And earlier someone posted links to articles that indicate LE is revisiting the circumstances surrounding WM's death. Maybe the initial findings will simply be substantiated, or maybe something new will come to light as a result of the current case against DM.

JMO

I'm sure the clear indicator would be the GSR on his own hand as well...

 

[milesfinlay]

There is a media rule-of-thumb in Canada that suicides are not reported. In exceptional cases they are (murder-suicides, for example), but otherwise they are avoided because the fear is that they will encourage others to consider suicide as an option for themselves if they are feeling low.

Miles/..

But can't it still slip out and then the info spread around? There had to have been many, many people who were aware that he'd apparently committed suicide (all it takes is one person to 'share' such scandalous info and then, like a rumour, it spreads and spreads). You don't think that DM would have confided in his friends about it?

 

[LayzeeDayzee]

I'm sure the clear indicator would be the GSR on his own hand as well...

True but is it also not possible for someone to place a gun into someone's hand and pull the trigger; such that the deceased person does have GSR on hand but were murdered?

What if DM was behind it all? Not saying that he did it but he could have hired someone. Considering the timing of this alleged suicide, if he had no desire to carry on his Dad's business, wouldn't it have made the most sense to get rid of him prior to all of the new business starting up?

 

[KEVINinTO]

I find it interesting, also, that he purchased the livestock incinerator in MB and not ON. Perhaps because making such a purchase in ON would raise eyebrows due to recognition of his name/get people to talking...whereas he may not have been known in MB.

According to the website for the manufacturer of the mobile crematorium the only Canadian distributor is in MB which is why DM had to purchase it from MB. It was his only option.

http://www.supernovamfg.com/dstribut.html

 

[newone]

True but is it also not possible for someone to place a gun into someone's hand and pull the trigger; such that the deceased person does have GSR on hand but were murdered?

What if DM was behind it all? Not saying that he did it but he could have hired someone. Considering the timing of this alleged suicide, if he had no desire to carry on his Dad's business, wouldn't it have made the most sense to get rid of him prior to all of the new business starting up?

I'm 50/50 on this one too.....I am wondering if it was either a hired hand or....someone sending a message to the family

 

[LayzeeDayzee]

I've not read the thread for a couple of days, so may be repeating other people here.

But, what if "they" didn't ever plan to kill Tim.... but that he over-heard something in the truck and they had to silence him. Perhaps they took a phone call, or picked up someone on the way who said something relating to other dodgy business and they needed to silence the witness? Is that possible?

Because I still can't get my head round a rich kid killing someone in cold-blood just to steal a truck.

BUT....I keep thinking to myself, there HAD to have been a premeditated plan to kill TB.....because how would any involved think they could honestly get away with stealing the truck of someone who's seen your face, who's wife has seen your face....then just let him (TB) go and not end up caught?

 

[Sillybilly]

Even though a person is "cleared" they are never forgotten...... There are some stories out there...that even though a persons alibi checks, ...they are later found to be lieing....time is the answer really

In Audrey Gleave's case, a person was very quickly cleared, yet 6 months later the investigation turned around (still unsolved), and that same person is getting pressure. Mind you, different circumstances, but it certainly can happen.

There was a case in the US a few years ago where a police officer's wife was killed, it was adamantly stated he was not a suspect, but TADA ... later convicted of her death. Just depends on how the info flows.

 

[swedie]

Wow way to go sleuthers! All you newbies are doing some awesome sleuthing on this case.:cheers: And so quick too lol. I find I am falling so far behind but that's ok, keep up the great work. Just hope you don't mind reading my long posts and hopefully I am not repeating things you people have already discussed. Sometimes in helps to look in other directions also. Sorry for such a long post as my brain has been working overtime.

Just wanted to pick some great sleuthing brains on the thought of what if DM was targeted? Is it possible he has no idea who the suspects are and has thrown names out to LE of who he believes may have targeted him? It all seems so strange as many of us have mentioned, why would anyone with DM's wealth steal a truck he could easily afford? Are there guys out there who despise DM for his wealth/success? Or could it be he had friends he thought were his friends and he thought he could trust? So many things seem glaringly obvious but sometimes we tend to go with what seems obvious and get stuck on just that. I am not saying I believe DM is innocent, but is just seems all so bizarre someone of DM's status would risk losing everything over a truck. He just purchased a condo worth over half a million dollars the day after TB went missing and also purchased that farm not long ago. Would someone who could have almost anything they wanted in life, risk spending the rest of their life behind bars? Wouldn't you think he was smarter than that? I could understand someone who doesn't have much in life, going around stealing vehicles to make money or to support their drug habit or because they belong to a gang, and even thrill seeking but this is just craziness.

I watched a news video tonight which was linked on WS, where the reporter near the end of the video said DM made a brief court appearance and he was not sporting the red mohawk, he had a clean cut hairstyle. This reporter was a female and darned if I can find it now grrr. I did though find a written report which states he no longer had the mohawk haircut. What I was getting at, did Dellen have the mohawk when arrested? If so, why wasn't this an identifying description by the guy who took him out for a test drive the day before? Also if Tim's wife saw DM she most definitely would have noticed the mohawk. The description of the second suspect was shorter with dark hair and he had the hood of his hood up at the Bosma's house IIRC. She remembered those details, but not a mohawk?

Could it be someone who knew a lot of details about DM, knew he had a trailer, where the trailer was kept (have we learnt where he kept his trailer parked?) a Dodge Ram, and targeted another Dodge Ram to make it seem all the more obvious as to why TB's truck was the target, was there someone who may have resembled DM? Did someone also fake the ambitions tattoo and somehow made it obvious to the first witness as a way of framing DM? If DM had any smarts at all, wouldn't you think he would not want that witness to see the tattoo or his mohawk, as these would certainly be dead giveaways? You would think DM would be wise enough to cover up the obvious tattoo. What is also strange is TM was not contacted about his truck through Kijiji as mentioned in the snippet below. Did TB have a FOR SALE sign on the truck listing his number and did someone contact him by payphone, or one of those untraceable cell phones or did they just show up at his door? Did the people who framed DM know AM DM's friend and had seen the picture of the orange shirt and red hoodie (another set up)? What is troubling also, LE say they have interviewed and released several people, but have yet to identify the suspect who accompanied Bosma. Someone would eventually roll on someone else wouldn't you think? Or at least give LE names of other people DM was known to chum with. If someone did frame him, they obviously knew or found out where his mother lived and deliberately parked/dumped the trailer in her driveway. They very well could have hitched up DM's trailer to their own vehicle to carry out what they did. I wish LE would give us more information such as if there is surveillance video in Brantford, what make of vehicle is pulling the trailer? Did they obtain video from first witness' place of business where the suspects walked up to the business or was there no video? I just hope LE are looking into everyone who has ever known DM. After all the interviews LE have done, it sounds like they have no clue who the second or other suspects are. This to me says so much. Somewhere along the line, someone knows pretty much everyone DM would chum with. This makes me believe that quite possibly it was a set up to frame DM and we may never know who killed TB. Maybe if there is solid evidence such as DNA, fingerprints, video out there, then yes there might be hope. Also the perps would have to have their prints or DNA in the LE databank.

Something just doesn't sit right with me in this case and I am considering that maybe, just maybe DM was framed. It is possibly he isn't speaking to LE because he cannot provide them with any information because he does not know anything that happened that faithful night?

Read more: http://kitchener.ctvnews.ca/we-will-remember-tim-sharlene-bosma-1.1282472#ixzz2TWyKrWRJ

“We confirmed to the police that the ad posted by Mr. Bosma on Kijiji did not feature personal contact information, nor did it receive any replies, which determines the incident did not occur as result of his ad posting on Kijiji,” the company stated.

If a seller on Kijiji does not display contact info, buyers can reach them via Kijiji itself. The company said no one tried to contact Bosma through its service.


Millard, 27, of Toronto, who had already been charged with forcible confinement and theft over $5,000 in the case, walked into a Hamilton court Wednesday morning, unshaven and looking tired, to hear that he has now been charged with first-degree murder. He was wearing a white dress shirt and beige dress pants. He no longer has a Mohawk haircut.

He no longer has the mohawk statement
http://www.cbc.ca/hamilton/news/story/2013/05/15/hamilton-tim-bosma-dellen-millard-court.html

Kijiji statement
http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2013/0...ers_n_3281316.html?utm_hp_ref=canada-business

Condo info
http://www2.macleans.ca/2013/05/16/...condo-the-day-after-tim-bosmas-disappearance/

 

[LayzeeDayzee]

According to the website for the manufacturer of the mobile crematorium the only Canadian distributor is in MB which is why DM had to purchase it from MB. It was his only option.

http://www.supernovamfg.com/dstribut.html

So no other local (in ON) manufacturers/distributors of portable livestock incinerators?

 

[KEVINinTO]

Come to think of it, does anyone else think that if WM decided to take his own life, he'd just wander out to the hangar one fine day, go up above the clouds and take himself out from a place he loved to be?

This is an excellent point! If WM was suicidal why not die doing what you loved to do instead of putting the barrel of a gun up to your eyeball and pulling the trigger?

By killing himself by piloting an aircraft into the ground he could make his death look as accidental instead of suicidal which anyone would prefer. By killing himself in an aircraft "accident" he would have been able to spare his son from discovering his body. There may have been Insurance considerations as well that made death by "accident" the preferred method.

I can't help but think that Toronto Police botched the investigation into WM's "suicide" and I would hope that an outside organization such as Hamilton Police are taking a close look at the facts surrounding WM's death.

Where was the body found? What type of firearm was used? Where is this firearm now? Is it accounted for? If not could it have been used in TB's murder?

We now know that months prior to WM's death , DM spent $7,000 on a mobile livestock crematorium - the "Eliminator Incinerator" (despite not owning livestock).

Increasingly the signs are pointing to WM being murdered by DM. If in fact this is what happened it will mean that a botched investigation by Toronto Police contributed to the death of TB.

This conclusion is inescapable!

 

[KEVINinTO]

So no other local (in ON) manufacturers/distributors of portable livestock incinerators?

Nope. The only Canadian distributor for the "Eliminator Incinerator" mobile crematorium is in MB.

 

[LayzeeDayzee]

Nope. The only Canadian distributor for the "Eliminator Incinerator" mobile crematorium is in MB.

Yeah but what I meant was.......why did he choose a company that only has a distributor in MB? Could he not have opted for another brand of portable incinerator that had a distributor in ON?

Guess it's a moot point anyway. Seems that according to the SuperNovaMfg website, they do delivery and on-site set-up. Not sure if DM had them deliver or he went to have it picked up. With the portable model there doesn't seem to be much set-up required....other than having a concrete pad for incinerator to sit on top of.

 

[Sillybilly]

Obviously not a hideout...that easy and close to home.
So odd.
I wonder if he drove to the realtor to sign off..or had the realtor do it on the phone and bring him the papers? Truly odd.

Probably already answered, but the article says his lawyer signed for the deal:

According to documents obtained by Maclean’s, Millard’s lawyer in that transaction, Mitch Korman, signed for the deal on May 7.

 

[swedie]

But if LE has reported that evidence shows DM purchased the liverstock incinerator found recently on his property back in July 2012 (from a company in Manitoba for $7000), just how framed could he be? He's not a farmer, he has no livestock so there's simply no justifiable reason that he would have purchased it, unless for nefarious reasons....IMO.

Yes it does seen nefarious but why go through all the trouble of having one shipped from Manitoba and spend that sort of money and make it look all that more nefarious when he could have just used a metal drum/barrel? I wouldn't be surprised if there are numerous drums/barrels sitting around the airport. JMO Oh course unless he planned on burning pieces of stolen vehicles such as the seats out of TB's truck. It's all so bizarre.

 

[swedie]

Could whoever framed him have hauled it to his property just as they may have used his trailer to steal TB's truck? I guess anything is possible at this point. MOO. Hope we get more info from LE but I don't think we will until other arrests happen. LE are pretty tight lipped on their cases here in Canada.

 

[swedie]

The whole mohawk thing would be a huge clue IMO if anyone knows. Did DM have a mohawk when he was arrested?

 

[noobsleuth]

The whole mohawk thing would be a huge clue IMO if anyone knows. Did DM have a mohawk when he was arrested?

There are a lot of temporary dies and gels that can get you a mohawk one day and not the next. Called Faux hawks. Maybe that's all this is.