Cases That Haunt You

DNA Solves
DNA Solves
DNA Solves

New Posts

docwho3 said:
I looked at the grown woman info this morning and I found that she had ink writing on her hand that was 'WSR57 or WSR54 or WSR44 or WSR47'
WSR57 is the designation for a weather service radar that went into use in the 1960's up to the about '91. Since she was found in 1976 and had evidently died within 12 hours of being found since it was determined the ink would have been visible on her body only about that long. I actually think there is a better explanation for the lettering but first I will show the simple search results I got.

WSR57:
1953 Beecher Tornado Commemoration Program
This was later replaced in 1961 with a more modern WSR57. model that could be better used for severe weather warnings.
http://www.crh.noaa.gov/dtx/1953beecher/images/programbook.pdf
http://www.dodgenet.com/~weavers/afss/weather.htm
http://www.dodgenet.com/~weavers/afss/nexrad.htm


WSR54:
WSR54.J. Package Contains 50. Wall Starter Rails

WSR44:
A wall spice rail.
http://www.panracks.com/prices.htm

WSR47 is a snap ring part
http://www.minibearings.com.au/cgi-bin/datafill.pl?product=Rings%20-%20Retaining%20-%20Snaprings%20-%20External&firstitem=1=post

WSR45 Standard Secondo Violin Shoulder Rest 1/8-1/16 42.95
http://www.promusicaustralia.com/other/Strings.htm

OK, I think the letters probably are more likely to be an address.
Maybe something like West Sunset Road number 47=WSR47 or maybe WSR57.

Why did no one miss her?
Maybe someone just moved to a new area & didn't have their new address memorized so it was written on her fingers in ink.
Perhaps young hubby or boy friend maybe decided he didn't want her after all and so killed her and baby and dumped them. After all no one in their new neighborhood even knows she is missing because they probably haven't met her yet.
Click to expand...
Some interesting search results. I have a feeling that she wrote this on her hand because she did not have a piece of paper with her. It might be an address like you say, and if so, it might have been given to her over the phone. Maybe she was answering an ad in a paper or posted on a bulletin board, or maybe someone called her and told her to come to that address.

It could also be an auto license plate number that she wrote down quickly because she had a pen, but no paper handy to write on.
 
These are all good thoughts. I hadn't thought of her boyfriend/husband killing her and they were new to the area so she wasn't known. That sounds like a good possibility. As we know, that happens too often. I think the initials and birth date does make sense. I'll see what I can find there. I was searching for missing people who were pregnant but didn't come up with anything that fit. Her eyes haunt me. When I think of the a joy a woman feels (usually) when their baby is soon to be born and can't wait to hold them, it just is sad.
 
laini said:
These are all good thoughts. I hadn't thought of her boyfriend/husband killing her and they were new to the area so she wasn't known. That sounds like a good possibility. As we know, that happens too often. I think the initials and birth date does make sense. I'll see what I can find there. I was searching for missing people who were pregnant but didn't come up with anything that fit. Her eyes haunt me. When I think of the a joy a woman feels (usually) when their baby is soon to be born and can't wait to hold them, it just is sad.
Click to expand...
I thought of another possibility that should have popped into my head much sooner. With her,in one of the suitcases, was found a news paper (I think it was a newyork paper.)

News papers also usually have a personals section and don't those often use accronyms like swf for single white female? So I wonder if wsr would have any meaning in that context and if so was the very paper found with her the one containing the add in question? I believe that before computers were in large use that newspaper ads were the web of the day that lured many unsuspecting young people into dangerous & sometimes fatal situations.

I think they even listed the date of the paper in question. Maybe there would be an archived copy available?
 
the paper was the New York Sunday News dated September 26, 1976.

Doe Network says police searched license plates and CB call letters, but didn't say anything about personal ads or local addresses. I would hope they searched the paper for clues, but we shouldn't assume anything.

Let's try to search addresses somehow. We need a map of the local area so we can see what street names are there.

Any locals here who can help us?
 
I thought this was interesting. Similar MO, but years later.

PENNSYLVANIA UNIDENTIFIED
On July 11, 1995 the dismembered remains of a woman were found in a maroon suitcase covered with a green trash bag along the Brandywine Creek in Downingtown, PA. An autopsy determined that the cause of death was "homicidal violence" and that she had been dead 37 days prior to discovery. She is estimated to be between 17-25 years old. She weighed between 120-140 lbs. and her height is estimated between 4'11"-5'3". She is White or Hispanic. She has pierced ears, brown eyes and hair.
 
Azlaw said:
the paper was the New York Sunday News dated September 26, 1976.

Doe Network says police searched license plates and CB call letters, but didn't say anything about personal ads or local addresses. ...
Click to expand...
CB Radios were very popular in 1976. At that time, you had to apply to the FCC for a station license, and you would be given station call letters which started with a K, followed by two more letters and then four numbers.

By about 1977, the FCC had run out of station numbers and started giving out call letters which still started with a K, but were then followed by three letters and four numbers. Sometime later - by about 1980, the FCC gave up on issuing station numbers and enforcing any of the CB rules.

Regarding newspaper ads, there are some kinds of personal ads which require a person to reply to a set phone number, but to refer to code letters/numbers when leaving a message.
 
The pregnant lady case has really bothered me. Never came across it before. So, I've been thinking about it. Couple thoughts:

First, she looks French to me. I can't support that in any way, just the first thing that came to my mind when I looked at her.

Second, she's going to give birth soon. It's December, it has to be cold. Could WSR be related to someplace she was going to have her baby? I keep thinking "Women's State Resources" ......... I don't know?

Women's Safe Resources (any shelters in the area at the time?)

I didn't notice any mention of whether LE thought she was homeless, well-groomed or whatever?

I think the suitcases here body was found in were her own. So, maybe she was travelling into or out of the area?
 
Good points.


Regarding this person: http://www.doenetwork.us/cases/138dfny.html I kind of felt that the unidentified murder victim who was pregnant would be someone who ran away or was away with a husband/boyfriend. I don't think it would have been someone who was kidnapped or taken agains her will originally. It seems unlikely to me that someone would be kidnappped/forcefully taken, then become pregnant and in hiding for 8-9 months through a pregnancy. However, you never know. Stranger things have happened.

The fact those could be her suitcases does make sense. I think maybe she was traveling, also. Good point made above. Regarding the singles ads in the paper being the numbers/letters on her hand, I wouldnt' think someone ready to give birth would be thinking of dating. But you never know. Just some random thoughts of mine. Maybe it is someone who was traveling from Europe.
 
www.wherearethey.bravepages.com looks interesting. Missing people from all over the world. Just wanted to share the link/ maybe there are some answers there to some of the unidentified.


also,
LButler, thanks for the link and suggestion you provided. Hope I didn't sound rude about your thought. I was just thinking outloud/brainstorming.

laini :)
 
I had looked into this case previously in relation to several other murders over a span of years along I-80 in the PA-NJ area. The letters and numbers are very confusing.

WSR with either a 4 or 5 and the number 4 or 7 lower to the right. This indicated to me that possibly the first four letters and numbers were a combination, with the fifth a seperate designator. I tried several combinations, changing the "4 or 5" to the letter e, a, or h. I looked for these combinations, including radio or TV call signs (ex, "WSRH[channel] 7".) I discovered a few that came close, but none that made sense geographically.

It would be very helpful to see a photo of the letters and numbers...How can the number 4 be confused for the number 5, and likewise how can the number 4 be confused for the number 7? Writing these numbers down, it is difficult to visualize...

I also had looked into addresses ("West State Route 4 [or 5], #4 [or 7]")...Nothing much there either, except there is a Rt 4 (east-west) in NJ which ties into I-80 in several places.
 
shadowangel said:
I had looked into this case previously in relation to several other murders over a span of years along I-80 in the PA-NJ area. The letters and numbers are very confusing.
Click to expand...
shadowangel said:
Do you have a running list? I too am interested in following those cases.


It would be very helpful to see a photo of the letters and numbers...How can the number 4 be confused for the number 5, and likewise how can the number 4 be confused for the number 7? Writing these numbers down, it is difficult to visualize...
The photo with the numbers is very illegible which is why they couldnt be sure about the numbers exactly.
Click to expand...
 
awagner said:
shadowangel said:
I had looked into this case previously in relation to several other murders over a span of years along I-80 in the PA-NJ area. The letters and numbers are very confusing.
Click to expand...
shadowangel said:
Do you have a running list? I too am interested in following those cases.


It would be very helpful to see a photo of the letters and numbers...How can the number 4 be confused for the number 5, and likewise how can the number 4 be confused for the number 7? Writing these numbers down, it is difficult to visualize...
The photo with the numbers is very illegible which is why they couldnt be sure about the numbers exactly.
Click to expand...
I posted a partial list under the thread "Blairstown Princess Doe", and others have added missing/UIDs also. If the letters/numbers are that illigible, I have to wonder if they have been misinterpreted all these years.
Click to expand...
 
wonder if there is any hope of seeing the photo of the writing for ourselves? someone else may see something else. Anybody here close to the LE that might have it?
 
I had posted a new thread in Cold Case today concerning this woman and her unborn infant... it really had an effect on me when I read her case file. I didn't know you were already discussing the case here.

I deleted the post.

Thanks Marilynilpa for letting me know this was here.:eek: I had been here several times and had only reached around page 4... trying to look at all the cases listed.

It seems this one has taken on a life of it's own... maybe a new thread of it's own wouldn't be a bad idea.

What do you guys think?
 
Yaya said:
I had posted a new thread in Cold Case today concerning this woman and her unborn infant... it really had an effect on me when I read her case file. I didn't know you were already discussing the case here.

I deleted the post.

Thanks Marilynilpa for letting me know this was here.:eek: I had been here several times and had only reached around page 4... trying to look at all the cases listed.

It seems this one has taken on a life of it's own... maybe a new thread of it's own wouldn't be a bad idea.

What do you guys think?
Click to expand...
Glad to be of help!

I think a new thread would be a pretty good idea.
 
Marilynilpa said:
Glad to be of help!

I think a new thread would be a pretty good idea.
Click to expand...
Ok :) I will create a new thread and title it Carbon County Jane Doe. I hope everyone will come to the thread and continue with the great input I have been reading today. It sounds like you guys have really been working the ol' brain cells on this one. I hope I can help come up with a few good ideas.

See you there... hopefully :)
 
Jody Lynn Brant, Missing since May 27, 1994


DOB: Feb 16, 1978
Missing: May 27, 1994
Age at time: 16
Age Now: 27
Sex: Female
Race: White
Hair: Blonde
Eyes: Hazel
Height: 5'3"
Weight: 122lbs
Missing From: Lawrenceville, Gwinnett County, Georgia
Endangered Missing

Jody traveled alone from Georgia and was heading to Pontiac, Michigan to stay with family. At some point during the trip she contacted her family stating that she was lost. That was the last time anyone heard from Jody. Her vehicle, a 1987 Ford Escort, was located burned in Erie, Ohio.

http://www.doenetwork.org/
Case File 1097DFGA
 
You must log in or register to reply here.

DNASolves

Who is DeKalb County John Doe (2022)?

Members online

... and 109 more.
Total: 2,228 (members: 110, guests: 2,118)

Online statistics

Members online
110
Guests online
2,118
Total visitors
2,228
Totals may include hidden visitors.

Forum statistics

Threads
601,844
Messages
18,130,561
Members
231,162
Latest member
nurse4home
Back
Top