Casey's appeal on the 4 charges of lying to police

[FaerieB]

Lizbeth desperate.

You would think that that would be the ONE question she'd have had a definite answer to, even if she qualified it with "In my opinion..." To be unable and/or unwilling to answer what you think the appropriate time-frame is renders your point moot, IMHO.

 

[logicalgirl]

You would think that that would be the ONE question she'd have had a definite answer to, even if she qualified it with "In my opinion..." To be unable and/or unwilling to answer what you think the appropriate time-frame is renders your point moot, IMHO.

Huh? I'm not following you FaerieB - who what please? :waitasec:

 

[Horace Finklestein]

"how are you free to go when you've been driven all those miles in a police car?"

Oh come on!! Think judge, think...WHY was she driven all those miles? It was to help find Caylee as far as the police knew. You can't allow her to create the situation by lying and telling police to take her to Universal, then let her claim she was in custody. I'm so sick of the deconstructing. It goes against the truth.

 

[Salem]

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[knt]

I hated it when the judge kept saying they took KC to the "interrogation room" and "interrogated" her at Universal. Interrogation room??? The detectives told KC she was free to go, that the door was only shut for privacy, that the door wasn't locked...If a detective told me that, I would take him at his word. I'd ask to leave if I wanted to leave. :banghead:

 

[Horace Finklestein]

I hated it when the judge kept saying they took KC to the "interrogation room" and "interrogated" her at Universal. Interrogation room??? The detectives told KC she was free to go, that the door was only shut for privacy, that the door wasn't locked... :banghead:

When the judge adopts the language of the defense it's not a good thing imo. No one who understood what happened based on the tapes and transcripts would have said it was an interrogation room. The Anthonys called the police, the police didn't wake up that morning and decide to "heavily-arm" themselves and go to their house and start asking questions,then drive Casey to Universal.

 

[thefragile7393]

Can you think of a country that would want her? :waitasec:

Maybe same one that wanted Karla Holmalka.

 

[krkrjx]

How stressful do you think all of this is on the felon?

Because if it was me, as a normal person, I think you'd have to put me in a padded room by this stage for the gut-churning stress. The money troubles, the stress of trial preparations, the stress of waiting for the other shoe to drop- if anyone else is going to pop up out of the woodwork to sue, etc etc. If it was me, I would have lost half my body weight by now, gotten a permanent twitch, and would be putting vodka into my cornflakes trying to cope with the panic, dread and unending aggrevation.

Do you think any of this stuff bothers her- for real? Or has she learned that even when it comes to murder, you can still figure out a way to get off scot-free and escape any consequences, so it doesn't register with her as something worthy of concern? (Like, she has cleared the biggest hurdle, so everything else is small beans now?)

I'd really like to know everyone's opinion on this.

I have to say, I do not think any of this bothers Casey. She does not feel things the same as normal people feel things. At most, she feels it is all an imposition, and I believe she felt her murder trial was an imposition as well. About the only thing that ruffles Casey's feathers if when people insinuate she might be fat.

She is that shallow.

And she is a psychopath.

 

[Horace Finklestein]

I have to say, I do not think any of this bothers Casey. She does not feel things the same as normal people feel things. At most, she feels it is all an imposition, and I believe she felt her murder trial was an imposition as well. About the only thing that ruffles Casey's feathers if when people insinuate she might be fat.

She is that shallow.

And she is a psychopath.

I agree. If anything, life has shown her there are relatively few consequences for anything she has ever done. At LEAST she was in jail for awhile, but she even found a way to make that kind of enjoyable. I think she knows there really isn't anything to threaten her with anymore. She'll never pay back the money she owes and as far as I know she's still not working. Someone always pays the bill for her. Someone has to be now, right?

 

[knt]

Detectives were receiving constant phone calls while at Universal. Cindy was calling, KC's friends were calling with info, detectives in the field were calling. The detectives took turns stepping out of the "interrogation room" (lol) to get more info. It was all a moving process. The detectives had to evaluate everything, compare stories, and come to a decision on arresting her after they left Universal. I'm sure strategy had to be discussed. Once they arrested her, they'd stop getting info on the missing child. My point is that the judges made it all sound so black and white. I'm sorry I watched that!!

 

[strawberry]

I still don't understand why LDB didn't argue for the State? Or even Frank? This guy is an assistant SA for Orange County? That's what LDB and FG are too...

 

[Sleuths4Me]

i will uke: again if they go in her favor....I just really hope that whatever the ruling the civil trial will not swing in her favor

 

[krkrjx]

I still don't understand why LDB didn't argue for the State? Or even Frank? This guy is an assistant SA for Orange County? That's what LDB and FG are too...

It takes nerve for a SA (or any attorney in oral argument) to stand there and tell an appeals court judge that he is bound by the rulings of a lower court judge. Yikes!! It's almost like the state doesn't really care anymore; maybe they are so done with this perpetrator that they are not putting any more time or effort into her issues.

I am sure the court will rule within the law and not be swayed by their personal opinion of any of the attorneys, but still...this was not a very smooth move on the part of the state, IMO.

 

[believe09]

It takes nerve for a SA (or any attorney in oral argument) to stand there and tell an appeals court judge that he is bound by the rulings of a lower court judge. Yikes!! It's almost like the state doesn't really care anymore; maybe they are so done with this perpetrator that they are not putting any more time or effort into her issues.

I am sure the court will rule within the law and not be swayed by their personal opinion of any of the attorneys, but still...this was not a very smooth move on the part of the state, IMO.

See, I didnt think he said that. I think the jdge was thumping his own chest fwiw. It seemed like he was trying to shake the SA. I laughed because the SA wasnt giving in. He kept telling the judge that the judge was bound by the facts of the case.

 

[logicalgirl]

See, I didnt think he said that. I think the jdge was thumping his own chest fwiw. It seemed like he was trying to shake the SA. I laughed because the SA wasnt giving in. He kept telling the judge that the judge was bound by the facts of the case.

I'm glad you heard it that way because I kept thinking - hey back off! Good to hear another opinion.

 

[krkrjx]

See, I didnt think he said that. I think the jdge was thumping his own chest fwiw. It seemed like he was trying to shake the SA. I laughed because the SA wasnt giving in. He kept telling the judge that the judge was bound by the facts of the case.

You may very well have the most reasonable interpretation.

Personally, I feel both sides seem ill-prepared no matter what is going down. I also believe the state has a much stronger case no matter what is going down than they actually present. Example: I thought FG's argument at the probation fiasco hearing was weak. It turned out OK but IMO the state should have made a stronger argument than they did; the law was on their side and they should have used it to their advantage.

IMO in this oral argument: The law is on the state's side but if they do not bring a strong enough response to the defense claims, the appeals court may see reason to rule in the defense's favor. Not because LE or the lower court did anything wrong, but because they did not argue sufficiently. Perhaps they did so in their written brief. I hope that is the case because the appeals court can only consider what is brought up in the appeal and in the state's response.

I hope Casey loses this appeal because clearly this was not all one lie. In fact, I could not understand why she was charged with only four counts of lying. However, I am bracing myself for her winning this because she is one who has proven she can slither out from under no matter what the issue. It makes one believe she has a guardian angel--one sent from a place far removed from where most guardian angels come from, IYKWIM.

 

[ThinkTank]

Not only is Fryer the teacher's pet of APPEAL Chief Judge Richard Orfinger [who was one of the 3 judges who heard the Appeal TODAY] ... but she also interned for Judge Eaton [the one who has so much to say, on Aphrodite's show, about how the jury got it right and Caylee was nothing but a bag of bones].

http://www.5dca.org/judges.shtml

5th DCA JUDGES
Chief Judge Richard B. Orfinger

http://www.5dca.org/Judges/Orfinger/Orfinger_page.shtml

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http://www.snureponall.com/Attorneys/Lisabeth-J-Fryer.shtml

excerpt:
"She also interned with the Honorable O. H. Eaton, Circuit Court Judge for the Eighteenth Judicial Circuit Court in Sanford, Florida."

"Based on her high score on the Florida Bar Exam, the Honorable Richard B. Orfinger, Chief Judge of the Fifth District Court of Appeal in Daytona Beach, Florida, invited Lisabeth to speak at a ceremony for swearing in new attorneys at the Court."
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http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/en...a-worth-a-look-thanks-to-stan-strickland.html

Jan 2, 2013
excerpt re: Eaton's interview for Aphrodite's show:
"Eaton says many people who disagree with the verdict simply don’t know the facts. ”I don’t know how you can prove premeditation when all you have is a bag of bones,” Eaton says."

 

[Intermezzo]

And we she spoke of CA constantly being surrounded by "HEAVY" armed police. I had to laugh.......

Heavy armed police? :floorlaugh:
I don't remember the Tactical Team/SWAT being called to Hopespring Dr on July 16th

 

[Intermezzo]

I hated it when the judge kept saying they took KC to the "interrogation room" and "interrogated" her at Universal. Interrogation room??? The detectives told KC she was free to go, that the door was only shut for privacy, that the door wasn't locked...If a detective told me that, I would take him at his word. I'd ask to leave if I wanted to leave. :banghead:

:what:
Universal Studios, a Theme Park, has an Interrogation Room?
theme parks with interrogation rooms? who would of thought
:floorlaugh:

 

[ZsaZsa]

Not only is Fryer the teacher's pet of APPEAL Chief Judge Richard Orfinger [who was one of the 3 judges who heard the Appeal TODAY] ... but she also interned for Judge Eaton [the one who has so much to say, on Aphrodite's show, about how the jury got it right and Caylee was nothing but a bag of bones].

http://www.5dca.org/judges.shtml

5th DCA JUDGES
Chief Judge Richard B. Orfinger

http://www.5dca.org/Judges/Orfinger/Orfinger_page.shtml

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

http://www.snureponall.com/Attorneys/Lisabeth-J-Fryer.shtml

excerpt:
"She also interned with the Honorable O. H. Eaton, Circuit Court Judge for the Eighteenth Judicial Circuit Court in Sanford, Florida."

"Based on her high score on the Florida Bar Exam, the Honorable Richard B. Orfinger, Chief Judge of the Fifth District Court of Appeal in Daytona Beach, Florida, invited Lisabeth to speak at a ceremony for swearing in new attorneys at the Court."
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/en...a-worth-a-look-thanks-to-stan-strickland.html

Jan 2, 2013
excerpt re: Eaton's interview for Aphrodite's show:
"Eaton says many people who disagree with the verdict simply don’t know the facts. ”I don’t know how you can prove premeditation when all you have is a bag of bones,” Eaton says."

What a shame she doesn't use her intelligence to fight for honorable causes.
She's turning out to be just another hired liar, trying to protect a child killer.