Casey's Parents & Lawyers Bungle Public Relations

[The World According]

You two do realize that my user tag is in jest, don't you???

Yes, of course. I think I was about thirteen when I watched an old Gregory Peck movie, I fell in love with him ....and after that the mere mortal teenage boys were just not him. He was the kind of man every woman wants to marry and every man wants to be. Jose ....not so much!! :blushing:

 

[MissJames]

A scent item could be helpful in any number of ways. For example......as portions of clothing were found with Caylee's remains, had an article with Caylee's scent been made available, then perhaps the dog may have been able to lead the team to a body (in near proximity to those clothing articles found nearby). A scent item could direct searchers to a secondary location.

My understanding of tracking dogs is that they follow shed skin cells from a live person. That's where my confusion comes in. Cindy Anthony has done many disgusting things,but I've never seen this claim confirmed. Maybe I missed it. I definitely understand it COULD have happened.

 

[LiveLaughLuv]

It would not surprise me a bit. Cindy made no secret she did not want TES interferring. While every other family on the planet would beg for their help ,the A's chose to figuratively spit on TM and TES.
Just from a technical standpoint I don't understand why a scent item would be necessary after so much time had passed,they had no point to start live tracking from and the organized searches were obviously for a body.Cadaver dogs would be used for that.
I've seen the reference to CA not supplying a scent item to TES and just wondered if that was confirmed.
And ITA. If this was a book of fiction the public would think the author was nuts ,trying to pass so much bunk off on his readers.
I want to add my thanks for all the videos you supply to remind us of the finer points we may have forgotten.I appreciate all your hard work !

My bold...

But it was CA who called TM and TES to come search for Caylee. Only CA wanted a LIVE search not a recovery of remains search, that's the difference.

I was flabbergasted when I heard this about not giving Caylee's article to search for her. She wouldn't allow TM to search, said she was dupped by him, she trashed TM as if he needed to do this for publicity...NOT! She only agreed when TM said he had team member still in Texas, that they would do a live search while he searched here..You can't make this up. It is what it is..

The other thing that bothers me, CA doesn't believe in JUNK SCIENCE but she can send a teddy bear of Caylee's to this Ginette person, isn't that hipocrital? Most people don't believe in physic abilities, it would fall under the category of junk science. I do believe there are some with special abilities and believe in junk science...

If you listen to TM in the above video, he just about says it there. He was so angry with the Anthonys, ICA for sure, since she didn't help at all. Baez wouldn't let TM speak with his client, so I wondered why they called him in the first place???:waitasec:

The founder of a group organizing daily Central Florida searches for missing Caylee Anthony, Tim Miller, said he was furious with Cindy Anthony after what he said was a lack of cooperation.

"I'm pissed off," Equusearch's Miller said. "I feel as though we have been used in this and we are not getting any cooperation. We have done everything Cindy Anthony has asked us to do."

Cindy Anthony apparently heard comments from Miller and bounty hunter Leonard Padilla on CNN's Nancy Grace show and released a statement from a family representative Thursday.

"Leonard Padilla and Tim Miller came to me under false pretenses -- both claiming their sole purpose to find Caylee alive. Tim Miller misrepresented his intentions, and is falsely accusing me of not cooperating with him, when it is evident his motives were to obtain publicity for his organizations at the expense of exploiting my granddaughters' disappearance. Tim Miller tried to discredit Kid Finders Network by falsely stating that they tried to pull out of the search for Caylee. Mr. Miller also claims that he spent twelve hours in my home with my family including Casey, when in fact he spent only a few hours total with me and minutes with Casey. This is an example of Tim Miller following in Leonard Padillas footsteps. Although I feel his organization has a purpose, his misrepresentation has tainted the effort of so many people with good intentions. I would have expected Tim Miller to speak with me one on one, rather than me hearing him on Nancy Grace."


Miller responded to the statement.

"This is about Caylee, period, the end," Miller said. "And I would hope, if something has happened to Caylee, I would hope Cindy would want us out here finding her body too. If Cindy wants us to stop looking for her body, guess what -- we are not going to."

Orange County Sheriff Kevin Beary also sent a message to Cindy on Wednesday.

"Cindy Anthony was on national TV demanding an apology from the sheriff's office," Local 6's Louis Bolden said at the news conference.

"(It) won't happen," Beary said after a chuckle. "It won't happen. We are doing our job. What we need is credible information, especially from her daughter and that is a message I send back to her."

http://www.clickorlando.com/news/17391069/detail.html

My guess is she didn't want Caylee found, not then...I think there's more to them than meets the eye and the driving force is $$$$$. I've said it when I first came to this site...Seems to me, missing children are a lucrative business in Florida...and they saw there chance to make money..:furious:

Even after Caylee was found, they were still selling TShirts and bracelets, WHY???

Justice for Caylee


United States Search and Rescue Task Force...
http://www.ussartf.org/dogs_search_rescue.htm

 

[Mrs G Norris]

My bold...

But it was CA who called TM and TES to come search for Caylee. Only CA wanted a LIVE search not a recovery of remains search, that's the difference.

I was flabbergasted when I heard this about not giving Caylee's article to search for her. She wouldn't allow TM to search, said she was dupped by him, she trashed TM as if he needed to do this for publicity...NOT! She only agreed when TM said he had team member still in Texas, that they would do a live search while he searched here..You can't make this up. It is what it is..

The other thing that bothers me, CA doesn't believe in JUNK SCIENCE but she can send a teddy bear of Caylee's to this Ginette person, isn't that hipocrital? Most people don't believe in physic abilities, it would fall under the category of junk science. I do believe there are some with special abilities and believe in junk science...

If you listen to TM in the above video, he just about says it there. He was so angry with the Anthonys, ICA for sure, since she didn't help at all. Baez wouldn't let TM speak with his client, so I wondered why they called him in the first place???:waitasec:



http://www.clickorlando.com/news/17391069/detail.html

My guess is she didn't want Caylee found, not then...I think there's more to them than meets the eye and the driving force is $$$$$. I've said it when I first came to this site...Seems to me, missing children are a lucrative business in Florida...and they saw there chance to make money..:furious:

Even after Caylee was found, they were still selling TShirts and bracelets, WHY???

Justice for Caylee


United States Search and Rescue Task Force...
http://www.ussartf.org/dogs_search_rescue.htm

I think the reason Cindy wanted TM and TES to search for a live Caylee even after she knew that it was fruitless is because she wanted to foster the illusion that Caylee was a MISSING child. Once Caylee had been found she wanted to continue the illusion that Caylee was a missing child who's body had now been found. EVERYBODY except the delusionoids associated with the Anthony family (and no doubt the majority of those within it) knew from very early in the piece that Caylee was the victim of a domestic murder.

Cindy has attempted to maintain this illusion since because she thinks its reasonable doubt that Casey is innocent. Its not. Casey's impossible lies have only served to cement her guilt and did so right from the moment Casey spoke to the 911 operator.

'...and why are you only reporting this now??'

I'm wondering if they'll turn on Baez after the verdict and appeal on the grounds of his incompetence...in face I'll be putting good money on that.

 

[The World According]

My bold...

But it was CA who called TM and TES to come search for Caylee. Only CA wanted a LIVE search not a recovery of remains search, that's the difference.

I was flabbergasted when I heard this about not giving Caylee's article to search for her. She wouldn't allow TM to search, said she was dupped by him, she trashed TM as if he needed to do this for publicity...NOT! She only agreed when TM said he had team member still in Texas, that they would do a live search while he searched here..You can't make this up. It is what it is..

The other thing that bothers me, CA doesn't believe in JUNK SCIENCE but she can send a teddy bear of Caylee's to this Ginette person, isn't that hipocrital? Most people don't believe in physic abilities, it would fall under the category of junk science. I do believe there are some with special abilities and believe in junk science...

If you listen to TM in the above video, he just about says it there. He was so angry with the Anthonys, ICA for sure, since she didn't help at all. Baez wouldn't let TM speak with his client, so I wondered why they called him in the first place???:waitasec:



http://www.clickorlando.com/news/17391069/detail.html

My guess is she didn't want Caylee found, not then...I think there's more to them than meets the eye and the driving force is $$$$$. I've said it when I first came to this site...Seems to me, missing children are a lucrative business in Florida...and they saw there chance to make money..:furious:

Even after Caylee was found, they were still selling TShirts and bracelets, WHY???

Justice for Caylee


United States Search and Rescue Task Force...
http://www.ussartf.org/dogs_search_rescue.htm

I am , still to this day..shocked at how ungrateful Cindy was to Tim!!!! Thank you for showing us these quotes. :furious:

 

[The World According]

I'm not sure who finally got through to them that they are sinking Casey making so many public statements, but I do want to say I am glad finally, finally someone got through to them. As far as I know we haven't heard a peep or seen a media tour in some time. It was unfortunate that for Lee's sake they did not make a very, very public denial of that allegation that he molested her repeatedly. The absence of that sured up in my mind it is save Casey at any cost, even the expense of Lee. The jury is going to despise these folks, imo.

Did anyone else think they should have themselves, not Brad, denied that to be true? Lee, he just got kicked in the teeth, first by sis and then mom and pop by letting that stand.:furious: He will go to his grave resenting them for it.

 

[countzero]

I'm not sure who finally got through to them that they are sinking Casey making so many public statements, but I do want to say I am glad finally, finally someone got through to them. As far as I know we haven't heard a peep or seen a media tour in some time. It was unfortunate that for Lee's sake they did not make a very, very public denial of that allegation that he molested her repeatedly. The absence of that sured up in my mind it is save Casey at any cost, even the expense of Lee. The jury is going to despise these folks, imo.

Did anyone else think they should have themselves, not Brad, denied that to be true? Lee, he just got kicked in the teeth, first by sis and then mom and pop by letting that stand.:furious: He will go to his grave resenting them for it.

ICA has floated this around for a few years. She mentioned it the JG among others and IIRC there could have been some texts about it. I don't know, don't care. To me, it's all a part of the A clan disfunction. Kinda/sorta like "let's tell some stories to see how much sympathy we can garner". Then again, it could all be part of the story told to the "mitigation specialist" for the penalty phase. Who knows, who cares. More spaghetti thrown at the wall; this won't stick either.

 

[The World According]

ICA has floated this around for a few years. She mentioned it the JG among others and IIRC there could have been some texts about it. I don't know, don't care. To me, it's all a part of the A clan disfunction. Kinda/sorta like "let's tell some stories to see how much sympathy we can garner". Then again, it could all be part of the story told to the "mitigation specialist" for the penalty phase. Who knows, who cares. More spaghetti thrown at the wall; this won't stick either.

The mitigation specialist....wow, what a busy, busy, uphill both ways job that must be. I wonder how hard it will be if her pathological lying is obvious to that person. Can you just imagine Casey having a field day making up horror stories about her childhood? The thing is she has lied and cried wolf so very, very much that even if she were molested no one would believe her now. (To be clear, I do not think she was.)

 

[logicalgirl]

The mitigation specialist....wow, what a busy, busy, uphill both ways job that must be. I wonder how hard it will be if her pathological lying is obvious to that person. Can you just imagine Casey having a field day making up horror stories about her childhood? The thing is she has lied and cried wolf so very, very much that even if she were molested no one would believe her now. (To be clear, I do not think she was.)

Agree, agree, agree TWA. And I'm looking forward to finding out who they want to hide on ICA's visitor listings. It has got be to some one with a bigger stick than the mitigation specialist - especially since we all already know not only about her but who she is and what her "slant" is going to be.

There must be someone they want to bring during the penalty phase - is there such a thing as an "ugly coping" specialist??? It seems to be someone we "could google" and have a good idea of which direction their defense of ICA is going. I can't think it would be an evidence specialist because what would he/she be doing visiting ICA who denies there is any evidence......

 

[countzero]

The mitigation specialist has already made her bed with ICA. Seeing that photo of her outside the Walmart I believe, clearly sends signals that she can't and isn't objective when it comes to ICA. I hope she is questioned about that among other things.

Ugly coping, hahaha ... nope that didn't stick to the wall either. Next ........attempt to secure sympathy will be ----------:waitasec: ---------(fill in the blanks).

 

[The World According]

Agree, agree, agree TWA. And I'm looking forward to finding out who they want to hide on ICA's visitor listings. It has got be to some one with a bigger stick than the mitigation specialist - especially since we all already know not only about her but who she is and what her "slant" is going to be.

There must be someone they want to bring during the penalty phase - is there such a thing as an "ugly coping" specialist??? It seems to be someone we "could google" and have a good idea of which direction their defense of ICA is going. I can't think it would be an evidence specialist because what would he/she be doing visiting ICA who denies there is any evidence......

If we pull ten to twenty of Andrea's DP cases, we will see a pattern of what experts she uses. We need to do the same for Cheney; because, clearly the two of them are both vying for the BMOC slot. As in any business, one builds relationships over time and comes to know what to expect out of someone they hire frequently. I would guess Andrea is a creature of habit, although the lady she called to the stand recently was a huge, huge, huge unknown loose cannon who had never testified as an expert. That shocked me because I know both she and Cheney know hired guns that are not green. I wouldn't even let someone who had never done it before groom my dogs, let alone testify when my client is on trial for murder one!!! What did you make of that? The state is trying kill Miss Anthony she is always shouting, so why oh why pick someone who has never testified before? Why
did the defense not notice the state that they were even calling a witness that day. Sad, tired and pitiful!!
I am imagining they are wanting to prepare for the inevitable...they are going to change her plea at the last minute and say she was suffering from some quasi twinkie/battered daughter/depression/manic episode/psychotic break bs so it would be a mental health expert that is my guess.

 

[RR0004]

My bold...

But it was CA who called TM and TES to come search for Caylee. Only CA wanted a LIVE search not a recovery of remains search, that's the difference.

I was flabbergasted when I heard this about not giving Caylee's article to search for her. She wouldn't allow TM to search, said she was dupped by him, she trashed TM as if he needed to do this for publicity...NOT! She only agreed when TM said he had team member still in Texas, that they would do a live search while he searched here..You can't make this up. It is what it is..

The other thing that bothers me, CA doesn't believe in JUNK SCIENCE but she can send a teddy bear of Caylee's to this Ginette person, isn't that hipocrital? Most people don't believe in physic abilities, it would fall under the category of junk science. I do believe there are some with special abilities and believe in junk science...

If you listen to TM in the above video, he just about says it there. He was so angry with the Anthonys, ICA for sure, since she didn't help at all. Baez wouldn't let TM speak with his client, so I wondered why they called him in the first place???:waitasec:



http://www.clickorlando.com/news/17391069/detail.html

My guess is she didn't want Caylee found, not then...I think there's more to them than meets the eye and the driving force is $$$$$. I've said it when I first came to this site...Seems to me, missing children are a lucrative business in Florida...and they saw there chance to make money..:furious:

Even after Caylee was found, they were still selling TShirts and bracelets, WHY???

Justice for Caylee


United States Search and Rescue Task Force...
http://www.ussartf.org/dogs_search_rescue.htm

Cindy was between a rock and a hard place. IIRC...and it's be a long while...she really didn't want TM there...but may have felt pressured to call him by folks wondering why she hadn't.
Hope that made sense.

 

[A_News_Junkie]

The mitigation specialist has already made her bed with ICA. Seeing that photo of her outside the Walmart I believe, clearly sends signals that she can't and isn't objective when it comes to ICA. I hope she is questioned about that among other things.

Ugly coping, hahaha ... nope that didn't stick to the wall either. Next ........attempt to secure sympathy will be ----------:waitasec: ---------(fill in the blanks).

:waitasec::banghead::waitasec::banghead: What Walmart photo? Link pretty please!!!!

 

[countzero]

:waitasec::banghead::waitasec::banghead: What Walmart photo? Link pretty please!!!!

The photo is in the thread we discussed after the hearing she testified in I think. It's in front of Walgreens with JW. Need to bring the link over.

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?p=5183432&highlight=barrett#post5183432

Post #238

Thanks to ZsaZsa for finding this.

 

[MissJames]

If we pull ten to twenty of Andrea's DP cases, we will see a pattern of what experts she uses. We need to do the same for Cheney; because, clearly the two of them are both vying for the BMOC slot. As in any business, one builds relationships over time and comes to know what to expect out of someone they hire frequently. I would guess Andrea is a creature of habit, although the lady she called to the stand recently was a huge, huge, huge unknown loose cannon who had never testified as an expert. That shocked me because I know both she and Cheney know hired guns that are not green. I wouldn't even let someone who had never done it before groom my dogs, let alone testify when my client is on trial for murder one!!! What did you make of that? The state is trying kill Miss Anthony she is always shouting, so why oh why pick someone who has never testified before? Why
did the defense not notice the state that they were even calling a witness that day. Sad, tired and pitiful!!
I am imagining they are wanting to prepare for the inevitable...they are going to change her plea at the last minute and say she was suffering from some quasi twinkie/battered daughter/depression/manic episode/psychotic break bs so it would be a mental health expert that is my guess.

That ,so-called ,expert was a very odd situation. Not only did she fail to support any defense argument,the waste of FL taxpayer dollars is just a poor PR move. The jurors are coming from somewhere in FL. At this rate the entire state will have negative feelings for the defense team.

 

[LiveLaughLuv]

I just found an article where Baez defended a man who was accused of murdering his girlfriends child...Seems, he points fingers....so if future behavior depends on past behaviors...JMHO

Seems he not only bungles PR's, he bungles criminal trials too...he isn't all that, after all...so....

I also wonder why his name is spelled as it is in the articles...HMMMMM...:waitasec:

Baez called the sheriff's probe of the child's death "a one-night, one-sided investigation," suggesting the more likely suspect was the mother, whom he criticized as "cold" for not attending the hearing in person. He said she "couldn't even bring herself to cry" during her telephone testimony.

more at that link...seems Baez was 40 minutes late due to ICA...
http://articles.orlandosentinel.com/2008-08-22/news/manslaughter22_1_diaz-puerto-rico-lake-county

A Lake County man, serving a 15-year prison sentence in the death of a toddler, wants his manslaughter and child-abuse convictions overturned, citing judicial and prosecutorial misconduct and the "defectiveness" of his defense lawyer, JosM-i Baez.

Diaz says he lost his freedom because of Baez's trial performance, strategy and failure to disclose evidence to prosecutors, a tactical decision that prevented jurors from viewing a defense video.

The video, created by a biomechanical expert, would have shown the jury how the toddler's skull fracture could have been an accident, according to new court filings.

In documents filed this week seeking a new trial and other post-conviction relief, Diaz said, " . . . Mr. Baez wanted to surprise the prosecution, and the surprise blew up in the defense's face."

http://articles.orlandosentinel.com/2009-03-28/news/baez28_1_baez-diaz-conviction


Justice for Caylee

 

[Aedrys]

I just found an article where Baez defended a man who was accused of murdering his girlfriends child...Seems, he points fingers....so if future behavior depends on past behaviors...JMHO

Seems he not only bungles PR's, he bungles criminal trials too...he isn't all that, after all...so....

I also wonder why his name is spelled as it is in the articles...HMMMMM...:waitasec:

more at that link...seems Baez was 40 minutes late due to ICA...
http://articles.orlandosentinel.com/2008-08-22/news/manslaughter22_1_diaz-puerto-rico-lake-county

http://articles.orlandosentinel.com/2009-03-28/news/baez28_1_baez-diaz-conviction


Justice for Caylee

I'm now wondering about Baez holding evidence back to surprise the prosecution during the trial. Has he learned his lesson or will he dare to try that again? I would hope not, especially with HHJP as the judge. But it does make me wonder what the defense could be hiding that they don't want anyone to know about. And they don't seem to be doing their best with this case either. What the heck is going on here? Why are they okay with looking like fools in the courtroom? Why not fight like hell for their client? Do they know something about this case that no one else besides maybe the A's know?

I also wonder about what GA and CA know. They've tried so hard to destroy evidence and cover for Casey, it almost makes me wonder if they know something nobody else knows about this murder - maybe it was more heinous than we know. I mean why hide the car seat in the attic? Wash the pants? Clean out the trunk? Let the car air out INSIDE the garage? Try like hell to pin it on someone else, anyone else but Casey? Send someone to find the body first? Not want to look for Caylee dead or alive until they felt pressured to do so? Lie after lie about their homelife and events up until and after the murder? And so and so on...

Was this just typical freak out and cover up, or is there more here they aren't saying? Why go through all of the trouble and craziness without doing any real investigation or looking for that darn invisinanny if they really thought Casey was innocent? Do they know something we don't, or do they just want to cover this up and make it go away? Do they really want Casey back at home doing the same old bad things and not doing any good things? I can't believe they'd actually want that, but who knows...

 

[The World According]

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dnIrCC_n3nk[/ame]
Is the piano player the friend that comes to court with Cindy?
[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WNvDk9DctRI[/ame]
I am glad that Lee has been wise enough to remain private and not sell his story/interviews/photos. I have always felt that he would tell the truth under oath, for Caylee.
[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZNZHO2EnZRw[/ame]
I do believe that Lee tried, very hard, to get to the truth of what happened. I do not believe as others have suggested he had any role, whatsoever, in placing little Caylee's body in the woods or lying for Casey in any manner to cover up what he knew to be the death of Caylee. Was he overwhelmed with shock and confusion, yes, purposely lying to the police, imo...NO.
[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ru70AmTNHaQ[/ame]

 

[LiveLaughLuv]

Yes, that's the gratitute the A's have for those who searched tiredlessly for her precious granddaughter..they slap those who physically searched while they praise others who have shown themselves as the felons they truly are. I speak of KFN...they have associated themselves with the 'wolves' knowing the wrongs but they praised them nonetheless...JMHO


Justice for Caylee

 

[The World According]

Despite Cindy Anthony’s Image Makeover,Her Body Language Shows Signals of Deception And Denial In Refusing To Identify With Joran Van der Sloot’s Mother

http://drlillianglassbodylanguageblog.wordpress.com/

GMA INTERVIEW: Raw Video
http://www.wftv.com/video/23903493/index.html Brad Conway, an attorney for George and Cindy Anthony said today he doesn't doubt "for a second" the tapes will be entered into evidence.

GMA INTERVIEW: Images
http://www.wftv.com/slideshow/news/23904602/detail.html