Caylee Anthony 2 year old General Discussion #71

[MnkeyBznes]

No mention of Caylee's clothes?

I have wondered the same thing. We have heard about Casey's clothes but where is Caylee's stuff. If you were dropping her at the "nanny" you would not take all of her things.

 

[ketel0ne]

absolut, I believe I read somewhere that Ricardo is Amy's bf. Have you heard that as well and, if so, do they not live together? I was trying to piece together whether Casey was at 3 places during that month or 2. TIA.

I have hear all that as well. I only have a general timeline of when Amy-ricardo were in the same place, when amy, casey, ricardo were and when Casey and tony were together. It is very vague. For instance I do not know for sure where Casey was the night of June 16th, 17th, 18th, or 19th. More importantly in some ways is where was the Pontiac that same week and leading up to the 27th.

To summarize I really think Casey was only at 2 places A&R's and Tony's.

 

[ketel0ne]

I have wondered the same thing. We have heard about Casey's clothes but where is Caylee's stuff. If you were dropping her at the "nanny" you would not take all of her things.

I think one day the backpack and maybe the sunglasses will turn up.

 

[beetrue]

Hi Beetrue.George originally filed a report for the gas cans not knowing who stole them. Later that day he found them in Casey's trunk and realized that she took them. She tried to keep him from seeing them in her trunk. When he was asked about his police report early on, he said a neighbor took the cans. IMO, he said that because he did not think they had anything to do with anything and his daughter was already being persecuted and he didn't want to have to say to the public that she also stole his gas cans. but once he came to realize that they possibly significant, he told authorities what happened. Not right but he did correct himself and own up to his lie.
IMO, he should have been honest, but I see this as aberrent behavior on his part and he has been consistently helpful and truthful throughout. I believe him to be an honest individual whose family is falling apart because of his daughter. He is doing what he can, but it will not be enough and I think it will be a long time before this family can heal.

Jbean, thank you for the detailed explanation. I just read Gigi's. I knew of the first half, Casey hiding the gas cans and everything... but not that George did not correct the information immediately. I thought the cans went missing and were returned June 24th - I do not know why that date is in my mind - and they did not know Caylee was missing until july 16th.

Such a nightmare, all of this. I can't help but feel sympathetic to the family.

 

[ketel0ne]

Thank you. So they brought the car home and Cindy washed the pants, actually I believe she said she was washing some other things so she threw the pants in with them. A few hours later she finally gets together with Casey and learns that Caylee is missing. I see nothing sinister in Cindy's actions. It's not like she knew all heck was about to break loose and that the pants would be evidence.

When she washed those pants and with what other clothes gets kinda blurry.

After Cindy found Amy's number went on the Casey hunt and then the police station and finally the 911 calls. Not sure when there was time for a load of wash then. But oh heck, we didn't even have a correct missing date for a week, so why does this detail matter right?

 

[fixingtoburst]

IMO all of Casey's actions up to this point speak of a woman that murdered her child. Not someone that accidentally killed her daughter. Not someone that had her child abducted. No one who accidentally killed their child or knew their child had been abducted would behave the way Casey Anthony has. They would have been racked with grief and unable to go hangout with friends and party. Period.

 

[panthera]

Jbean, thank you for the detailed explanation. I just read Gigi's. I knew of the first half, Casey hiding the gas cans and everything... but not that George did not correct the information immediately. I thought the cans went missing and were returned June 24th - I do not know why that date is in my mind - and they did not know Caylee was missing until july 16th.

Such a nightmare, all of this. I can't help but feel sympathetic to the family.

I was wondering too, when George said he confronted Casey on the 24th about the gas cans, did he ask where Caylee was? If so what was her answer? By that time, neither he or Cindy had seen Caylee for over a week.

 

[RR0004]

Cindy made an interesting comment on Greta a few nights ago. She said something to the effect of, "If it was an accident -- she would have called 911."

She also went on to say that if it was an accident she would have called her (Cindy) because that's who she always called (ex: an ear infection). Cindy is a nurse afterall. So now, here is where Cindy's line of thinking falls apart if she truly believes her daughter's tale about the nanny. If Cindy would be the first person she'd call if something happened to Caylee such as an accident...then why wouldn't Cindy also be the first person she'd call if someone stole Caylee? I have trouble reconciling that.

 

[ketel0ne]

Great point about the money. If she made all of her purchases on a credit card during this month -- they would be able to get a list of items she purchased. If there were no baby related items -- again -- that would be a huge red flag.

I'm guessing she made cash withdrawls / advances

Not sure why, Caylee has been gone for the whole time no matter what the real reason is. Casey had no need to buy for Caylee.

 

[txsvicki]

They were also not in the car for any length of time apparently because they were retreived from Tony's not the car.

The pants on the back floor of the car on the other hand could not have been a treat to pick up either.

Hadn't police already been to Tony's and looked around? Maybe they had already looked at the clothes that were kept there.

 

[ketel0ne]

Cindy made an interesting comment on Greta a few nights ago. She said something to the effect of, "If it was an accident -- she would have called 911."

She also went on to say that if it was an accident she would have called her (Cindy) because that's who she always called (ex: an ear infection). Cindy is a nurse afterall. So now, here is where Cindy's line of thinking falls apart if she truly believes her daughter's tale about the nanny. If Cindy would be the first person she'd call if something happened to Caylee such as an accident...then why wouldn't Cindy also be the first person she'd call if someone stole Caylee? I have trouble reconciling that.

And Casey did call her, and a lot apparently on June 16th. Now why didn't Cindy answer?

 

[CitizenKim]

I'm curious to know more about Amy as well. She was probably the person closest to and most often around Casey (except maybe Tony?).

Maybe we're not hearing from her bc she has fessed up w/some incriminating info about Casey/Caylee. Maybe that's why LE is soo confident that there's no need for a sketch or Amber Alert...that and the smell of dead body.

 

[chrisg]

I have hear all that as well. I only have a general timeline of when Amy-ricardo were in the same place, when amy, casey, ricardo were and when Casey and tony were together. It is very vague. For instance I do not know for sure where Casey was the night of June 16th, 17th, 18th, or 19th. More importantly in some ways is where was the Pontiac that same week and leading up to the 27th.

To summarize I really think Casey was only at 2 places A&R's and Tony's.

Thanks for this info. Do you feel then, that Casey's whereabouts can be explained from 6/20 onward but just not for those four nights/days from 6/16-6/19?

 

[RR0004]

Actual smoke smell was brought up today about 3 duffle bags of clothes that Cindy retrieved from tony's apt. She washed those as well.

Can you provide a link for that? I wondered about that from the time casey was discussing the missing cell phones. When did Cindy pick up those bags? Had they already been cleared by LE?

 

[panthera]

IMO all of Casey's actions up to this point speak of a woman that murdered her child. Not someone that accidentally killed her daughter. Not someone that had her child abducted. No one who accidentally killed their child or knew their child had been abducted would behave the way Casey Anthony has. They would have been racked with grief and unable to go hangout with friends and party. Period.

I do agree about her behavior being like someone who was happy her child was finally gone and she could hang out with friends, party and be a single person with not a worry in the world. Many times a toddler will drown in a swimming pool (as an example) and it isn't the mother's first reaction to hide the accident and go party for a month until her own mother finds out the little child is missing. Casey's behavior looks to me like that of a very cold-hearted person. MOO

 

[RR0004]

I don't see how LE is responsible for washing the pants. Not taking them immediately--yes--but I'm not sure how they're equally responsible for them being washed. And this is where the flip-flopping comes in. One of the reasons Cindy called the police was b/c the car smelled like a dead body. She then admittedly washed pants that she said had the same smell? It seems, IMO, that they (the gps) are torn between wanting to find their grandaughter and wanting to protect their daughter. And since all evidence points toward their daughter being responsible, this is indeed a problem/conflict of interest.

...and how would they know to take them if they'd already been removed from the car? I hope Cindy would have told them immediately when they came and questioned the family.

 

[panthera]

And Casey did call her, and a lot apparently on June 16th. Now why didn't Cindy answer?

Maybe she was at work? What I'm not clear on is if any voicemails were left on any of the calls?

 

[chrisg]

And Casey did call her, and a lot apparently on June 16th. Now why didn't Cindy answer?

I feel these calls are significant as well. IIRC, Mark Fuhrman said there were a half dozen calls to George first, then Cindy and then to two other people that afternoon (6/16) and then another series of unanswered calls a few hours later which seems to indicate that they did not even call her back in those few hours between the two series of calls?

 

[ketel0ne]

Hadn't police already been to Tony's and looked around? Maybe they had already looked at the clothes that were kept there.

Cindy got the clothes before the cops went to Tony's. she got the clothes when she picked up Casey. Late afternoon July 15th.

 

[ketel0ne]

I feel these calls are significant as well. IIRC, Mark Fuhrman said there were a half dozen calls to George first, then Cindy and then to two other people that afternoon (6/16) and then another series of unanswered calls a few hours later which seems to indicate that they did not even call her back in those few hours between the two series of calls?

Again why not, and what actions, conversations precipitated this in the 24-36 hours beforehand.