Caylee Anthony 2 year old General Discussion #72

[Openmyeyes]

CheckDa - heres the link:

http://www.foxnews.com/video2/video...//www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,400001,00.html

 

[Truthful Lies]

I do know that some cells can accept jail calls...at least in Gainesville (was there when the call came through). Will ask my friend how that worked.

 

[Patty G]

And didn't he and Cindy both claim, after this story broke, that they hadn't seen her since she left--yet, only a couple of days ago, George suddenly recalls that he saw her on the day he needed the tire wedge?

Selective memory? Lies? Go figger.

If you look at the search warrant, last page #7, I think 4th paragraph, during a recorded interview done on August 4th at LE, George says he last saw aylee on June 6th? Now this is probably a typo, but you have to believe they were 100% accurate and proof-read everything before presenting their evidence to the Judge to sign the Search Warrant.

 

[AC]

I don't know that I believe the drowning story....but anything is possible.

 

[DeltaDawn]

I think that Cindy thought Caylee was okay during that month but that Casey was using Caylee as a tug a war with her parents. I think Cindy thought that Casey was withholding Caylee from them for spite. When she wouldn't produce her on the 15 July..Cindy called LE because she thought by doing that she would tip Casey's hand..unfortuneately..that didn't quite work..Casey came up with the kidnapping story..but atleast she did admit she didn't have her.

 

[robotdog]

lets shove a Fork in the phantom baby sitter once and for all and we can just
end it. Take one bite and just end it. NO MORE DOUBLE DIPPING

if you have a baby sitter then
1. you know the location of the baby sitters house, and when the police bring you to her house and it turns out the house you brought the police to DOESNT EXIST in the sense that nobody has lived there in months

thats its, its over stick the shovel she borrowed in it - its DONE

now, if the grand parents an understand this then they NOW know the truth
their daughter has a hippo sized problem :furious::furious::furious::furious::furious::furious:

 

[GameTheory]

My personal opinion is no, she didn't call Tony. I say this only because she would have to make a "collect call" because she used up her "free call" when she called Cindy looking for Tony's number. Casey can't make a collect call to a cellphone, but it's possible she may have tried to reach Tony once she had money into her account to call him.

Remember Casey didn't know that her calls were being recorded so any call to Tony ... oh my, this call would have been released to the public.

Correct me if I am wrong, but Casey did know her calls were being recorded. From the first call. I am sure the police tells them that, I think the law requires them to know that their phonecalls are being recorded. Even in the audio clips when she first calls her mother, you can hear the recorded voice that says the call is being monitored.

If she didn't reach him like you say that day, I don't think she is the type that wouldn't try to reach him another day. And I think that will be a call the police will do its best to keep private for a little longer. I think the police are doing their best to hold a lot of clues and evidence just for themselves right now, to build a case against her. There haven't been released any other phonecalls from jail since the first 2 days. Wonder why?

What I am trying to say I guess, is that I am positive in my believe that the search warrant we saw includes only 1% of the info police has on Casey right now. Just the absolute necessary info to get that warrant from a judge. But as the case will progress and if we go to a trial we will be learning a lot more, a lot more about Casey's behavior in jail since the day she was arrested, her behavior the days Caylee went missing, etc.

 

[Patty G]

I do know that some cells can accept jail calls...at least in Gainesville (was there when the call came through). Will ask my friend how that worked.

I am in Florida and based on a recent incident regarding a friend of my son's, the person in jail NEEDED a prepaid calling card in order to call my cellphone or my son's cellphone. The call has to be paid "upfront" .

 

[Mouser]

And if Caylee simply drowned in the family swimming pool, why wouldn't Casey admit to that. Even if the drowning were due do criminal negligence, she could have just as easily spun a story to explain how Caylee had wandered off (while she was in the bathroom for example). It is an unfortunate fact that many children drown in their own swimming pools, Casey could have in fact even elicited tons of sympathy if she had claimed this had happened to her daughter.

 

[AC]

lets shove a Fork in the phantom baby sitter once and for all and we can just
end it. Take one bite and just end it. NO MORE DOUBLE DIPPING

if you have a baby sitter then
1. you know the location of the baby sitters house, and when the police bring you to her house and it turns out the house you brought the police to DOESNT EXIST in the sense that nobody has lived there in months

thats its, its over stick the shovel she borrowed in it - its DONE

now, if the grand parents an understand this then they NOW know the truth
their daughter has a hippo sized problem :furious::furious::furious::furious::furious::furious:

This is how I feel as well.....this makes no sense that NO ONE else would have met ZG!

 

[MitchLite]

I'm very close to my parents. They see my son every day. They dote on him, adore him. And he's 14!

I asked my mother the same question about my son. We were talking about this case, and I said, "Mom, what would you do if we lived with you, and I left with QAjr, and, say, after a week you had not talked to him?"

My mom, who I consider the best grandmother in the world to my son said, "I would tear up heaven and earth to find QAjr. When I'm used to speaking to him every day, I wouldn't let three days go by without knowing you and he were safe."

(I also asked her, "God forbid, what if I had done what Casey seems to have done. What would you do?" She said, "I'd never speak to you again, and I'd do everything I could to see that you served the rest of your life in prison.")

And my mom LOVES ME. lol. Of course, I consider it wonderful that she seems to love my son exponentially more than she loves me. I've certainly never felt competetive with my son for ANYONE'S love. The fact that Casey did ("They just want to find Caylee, it's all about Caylee.") speaks volumes to her narcissism, IMHO.

You have to understand the reason everything to Casey is "all about me".....if I am correct, her lies have been a part of her life, even from a young child. Just based on that, attention has always resolved around her. Her lies would create attention for her........normally with this type of situation comes attention. Regardless if it is negative attention they see no difference in positive or negative, attention is attention.

She learned at a young age to seek attention. And what better way for attention to be given then to act in a negative manner? The more bad you act, the more attention you get.

Of all my kids, without a doubt our one daughter who is like Casey got the most attention in the home. Her behavior and lies demanded constant attention because she was never "off".

Caseys entire life has been about her, so it was and is very normal for her to make that statement "all anyone cares about is Caylee".

 

[DianeB]

I'm not thinking that so much, but looking along the lines of if that has anything to do with the burning issue; I for one do not understand the concepts here and my research is coming up with conflicts if anyone wants to take a crack at it. *Caution to only post what your thoughts are relative to the possible burning issue, as this as a whole may have nothing to do with any other aspect of the case, dunno..

http://www.myspace.com/supernaturalresponseteam

Do you prefer to think of it as skating on thin ice, or swimming in deep water?

 

[CheckDaFacts]

Its says that Casey told Jesse that Caylee was with the nanny and they had gone to the beach for the weekend.

Jesse and Casey did not go to the beach.

Correct on first comment while the first part is accurate thus far per a statement by Lee it does not make it so either. We also do not know whether or not they actually went to the beach as a couple, as it has not been released by LE. Excuse my possible error. Possible

Also LE does not have to release all phone calls. What is being released is what LE approves. There is mega info we know nothing about which LE has in their hot hands. To release all info or certain portions would impede their investigation.

 

[Blink34]

I wonder if LE really believes the drowning story, or if they're just using that as a "soft" method (It was an accident!) to get Casey to admit that Caylee is dead.

Once that's out of the way, they can move forward. And the state can always add to the charges down the line when the truth eventually comes out.

Fox had the story about that analyzing equipment a week ago. Bill Hemmer talked about it, but I didn't see anyone else at Fox pick up on it.

I dont think they are "affixed" to any theory yet, but I do think someone close is talking, and may be giving the story they "were given" by Casey to get their help to move Caylee.. I think it is more they are working through the most logical possibilities as they relate to the evidence and then exclude from there.

Btw, why do we suppose the clothing came from Tony's? She had been living at Amy's prior to 7/15, and no explanation as to why she moved out ot Tony's really, which his roomate had stated she used as a "remote event planning office.." Point is if the clothes were in her car in duffle bags, is there a duffle bag missing anyone is aware of? And why she driving around with dirty, smokey clothes for a few weeks?

 

[robotdog]

This is how I feel as well.....this makes no sense that NO ONE else would have met ZG!

yes, and i think it is slowing hitting the grand parents

my guess is initially they wanted to believe their daughter and each time a new fact is revealed about how she has lied it creeps into them

gut wrenching to the grand parents

they didnt deserve this - they are a little confused and have been dancing on both sides of the fence - heart breaking for them

 

[AC]

When Jesse and Casey had their conversation regarding the "get off the table" comment,is there proof as to where Casey was at the time of this call? It seems some think she was at her parent's home....but I don't remember if that was confirmed.

 

[ShouldBWorking]

I do know that some cells can accept jail calls...at least in Gainesville (was there when the call came through). Will ask my friend how that worked.

when a friends son was in jail I think she forwarded her home phone to her cell and the call could then be accepted will try to remember to ask her

 

[Blink34]

Correct on first comment while the first part is accurate thus far per a statement by Lee it does not make it so either. We also do not know whether or not they actually went to the beach as a couple, as it has not been released by LE. Excuse my possible error. Possible

Also LE does not have to release all phone calls. What is being released is what LE approves. There is mega info we know nothing about which LE has in their hot hands. To release all info or certain portions would impede their investigation.

I agree that no-one has ever come forward to say that they were NOT at the beach, AND Tony left town a few days later, fyi, where Casey then stayed at Amy's while he was gone- why did she need to stay at Amy's while he was away since she had been staying there already??

 

[MitchLite]

This is how I feel as well.....this makes no sense that NO ONE else would have met ZG!

I am having trouble understand why anyone would think there ever was a babysitter- even prior to what the police have said.

This is a classic example of why I don't trust a word Cindy says......she is the one who helped this lie continue by saying she had heard the nannys name a year or two prior.

People that lie do it for two reasons

1. For attention
2. It is learned behavior

Personally, I think Casey learned it from her mother, and loved the attention it gave her.

 

[GameTheory]

This is how I feel as well.....this makes no sense that NO ONE else would have met ZG!

Can I insert your conversation? I think very few people here hold on to the hope that the nanny does exist right now and they only do that in hope that Caylee is alive.

What we were discussing about the nanny has nothing to do with whether she exists. I didn't think she existed way before the warrant search was made public. The discussion I had with another poster was trying to explain why will Cindy would have heard the name zanny, zenaida before.

I don't think Cindy was lying about hearing the name before. And I do think she genuinely believed Casey the first days about the nanny taking the child. Or hold to that hope. Because exactly she heard Casey referring to the zanny name before. And it all ties together with that poster's theory that Casey was using the excuse of a nanny to get more and more money from her parents to spend on herself.

I am not trying to defend the grandparents even though I do consider them victims in this situatio and victims of Cayse. And yes they have been acting weird or saying contradicting things it seems but I think it is also important to see that Cayse has been lying to them for YEARS AND YEARS as well. Even though it is plain obvious there was never a nanny, the grandmother doesn't have to be lying that she heard her daughter using that name for a year and a half. If her daughter was telling her that she needed money to pay the nanny, doesn't that make Cindy a liar. I think in order to understand the grandparents behavior, it is important to understand that they are not just facing Casey's lies for the last month. They have to come to terms with lies being told for months and years. And I really believe in this theory that Casey was telling them about a nanny to get money from them while she was not working.