Caylee Anthony General Discussion Thread #77

[krimekat]

Could George and Cindy have been advised not to accept her phone calls in order to put pressure on her?

My loved ones would have cut the cord on 16 July!!!!

 

[Blink34]

Baez is a public defender, isn't he? Per OCPD records, that is his designation

What? No definately not

 

[fixingtoburst]

The Question is. . . Is the Anthony family more concerned about maintaining a relationship with their daughter or finding their grandaughter? Maybe in their heart of hearts they know it's too late for Caylee, but there is still hope for Casey.

"For as long as there is life, there is hope."

 

[aprilshowers]

Not April of course, but my mother was severly BPD (with a nice mix of booze and enough prescription meds to kill an elephant just to keep things interesting). She had me when she was 16, had her own horrific upbringing. She had no boundaries and my childhood was a nightmare. I stopped speaking to her in my 20's. Told her to call me when she went to rehab and therapy. She died last year without ever attempting to reach me.

From therapy and support groups for children raised by moms with BPD people range on the severity of the disorder, it is amazingly difficult to treat. And they do not know if it is genetic or environmentally or a combo of the two, but borderlines tend to raise borderlines, especially among the daughters. I think what rubs so many wrong about Cindy is she has some BPD traits. You know there is something off about her affect but you can't quite place it. I would guess she is a whole nother creature behind closed doors. You can see the temper start to flare every once in awhile. And then you have Casey....

Yes, I started this SAME thing with my son .. and luckily caught it early!

I stopped it in it's tracks, and today we have a very healthy relationship.

I wish that I could visit her ... and slip her some of my meds. LOL ..

Not really, but she may have BPD, but also other things going on as well.

 

[RR0004]

Even Cindy admitting this is Casey getting back at her for not visiting the other day. I agree with the commentary that this isn't good for Casey.

Ok...had a moment to think about it. What was Cindy's reason for not visiting the other day? Sorry...always the sleuth.

 

[SuziQ]

Wow! Honesty! How refreshing!!

I know! That's the most reasonable comment Cindy has ever made. No wild Cindyism about threats or fear or some other excuse. Is it too soon to have some hope for Cindy?

 

[mollymalone]

fixingtoburst
Registered User Join Date: Aug 2008
Posts: 69

Quote:
Originally Posted by mollymalone
Could George and Cindy have been advised not to accept her phone calls in order to put pressure on her?


But why refuse the phone calls but then visit her in person. Unless Cindy believes she can tell when Casey is lying by looking at her. I dunno. I just thought it might be a case of "removing the audience" when someone is throwing a tantrum?

LE probably has a psychologist advising them on how to handle Casey and advising the parents to not alway be available could be part of their strategy to make her crack? A possibility?

 

[krimekat]

What? No definately not

Check OCPD records and you can be "definitely" sure

 

[RR0004]

I know! That's the most reasonable comment Cindy has ever made. No wild Cindyism about threats or fear or some other excuse. Is it too soon to have some hope for Cindy?

Hold on one sec...didn't she have a VERY GOOD REASON for not visiting or am I mistaken.

 

[gigi2009]

I don't seem to be able to quote posts for some reason....?

If you're trying to quote from a thread that's closed it won't allow you to. Other than that just click on the "quote" tab on the post you want to quote. It just has to be from the current thread. If you want to quote from a closed thread then I guess you have to copy and paste.

 

[krimekat]

The Question is. . . Is the Anthony family more concerned about maintaining a relationship with their daughter or finding their grandaughter? Maybe in their heart of hearts they know it's too late for Caylee, but there is still hope for Casey.

"For as long as there is life, there is hope."

But they are searching for answers to what happened to Caylee & Casey is not being forthcoming with her own family -- those who love her the most!!!

 

[Chilly Willy]

Chilly Willy, I'm having the same trouble. Can't quote posts, can't stay logged in. SIGH. But at least I can use the quick reply or I'd go nuts!

I was using Netscape. I just switched over to Internet Explorer and the problem 'seems' to be fixed.

 

[Tori2]

Bringing a post over from the other thread, so I can respond:

quote from goldtooth

I know I've read a few times that Casey isn't very smart. I for one really think she is very smart. Do you know how much it takes to keep track of all the lies?? QUOTE]

I agree with this completely. In fact, I believe she has the characteristics of Borderline Personality Disorder. I know personally of someone with this diagnosis and she is very similar to Casey Anthony, down to the lies, the drama, and complete disregard for her child and the rest of her family.

The person I know, when she feels she isn't getting enough attention, she starts drama, playing the "poor me, I'm the victim" role. Her son comes second to herself, to the point where her son has been neglected with no food in the apartment and left on his own while she sleeps all day. She didn't work for 15 years, collecting disability. She does not have custody of her son, and he refuses to visit with her anymore. She was also physically abusive with her exhusband, smashing his head with a telephone at one point, because he wanted to go to a church service, and she didn't want him to leave.

People with this diagnosis are so hard to deal with. They are extremely manipulative, they lie for no good reason, they stir up drama to put the attention on themselves. The cannot deal with a child who needs immediate attention, they cannot hold down a job, and usually cannot live on their own.

You may want to read the DSM IV description of BPD. It really fits with Casey Anthony.

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Well, that's not true with ALL Borderlines.

For instance, I can live alone very well .. always have been able to. What we can't deal with is, the fear of those we love, walking out on us, leaving us, not really caring about us at all.

We lie yes, but it's usually to set up the scene to draw attention to ourself, and to draw in love.

I WILL agree however, Borderlines can be VERY hard to understand and can come across as very cold and uncaring. But inside they're dying and feeling lost alone and empty .. they just can't admit it, it's too scary and besides, if we opened up like that, we'd only be hurt and disapointed anyway.

People can't seem to FILL a Borderline up ....

April,

I sent you a detailed response to all your postings on the other thread. I MUST respond to your answer to goldtooth. YOU ARE EXACTLY RIGHT!! I forget who on this site has the "stigma" quote, but this is why we have to speak up about mental illness. We are all different and each one of us has different life experiences. Often our mental health is determined by the way we've been brought up. I'm not blaming anyone, it IS up to us to get help, but initially we don't seem to know why we do what we do...we just do it. Again I will say to you, you are very, very brave to say what you are saying. As much as everyone dislikes Casey - including me - I can honestly see that something is and has been wrong for a very long time. I do empathize with it - even if I can't stand her behavior and what she has probably done to Caylee. Just my opinion.

Tori

 

[krimekat]

Ok...had a moment to think about it. What was Cindy's reason for not visiting the other day? Sorry...always the sleuth.

focusing on the search for Caylee

 

[swa]

Public opinion of Casey is probably ZERO right now.

But . . .

What if Casey came out though and admitted this was an accident? Public opinion would change and you would then have a small group that would feel sympathy for her.

LE couldn't charge her with murder at this point. (I don't even think they can charge her anyhow . . . )

I wouldn't be surprised to see this scenario play out.

 

[Blink34]

I know! That's the most reasonable comment Cindy has ever made. No wild Cindyism about threats or fear or some other excuse. Is it too soon to have some hope for Cindy?

Go AWAY from the light SuziQ, it IS too soon,,, LOL

 

[not_my_kids]

Says here that Casey hired Baez.
http://wap.wesh.com/detail.jsp?key=408200&rc=ln_ne

 

[lilacwine]

Yeesh, are Casey's attorney visits logged on the visitor log the same way?

No... attorney's access is much more liberal.

 

[ShouldBWorking]

I think I'm going to write Ms. Thing a letter, can she refuse mail??

 

[housemouse]

said on the other thread, but I feel it so strongly, I want to say it again!

If I were Cindy. George and Lee, I would send a message through Casey's lawyer that there will be no more visits from them until she "spills the beans" to LE, and the "beans" prove not to be another lie.

That they are disgusted by her behavior, and do not want to put up with it any longer. Once she tells the truth, they will do their best to see that she gets a fair trial, and that they will support her during her prison sentence, but only if the lying stops!

At least, this is what I would do if one of my grown children were behaving this way. (LOL, My grown children probably know this, from the way we handled their adolescent pranks!)