Cindy & George on TODAY SHOW 10/22/08

[Kooba]

What an awful tragedy to have to try and live through. I can't even imagine. But, the disgust and quite possibly the hatred that is being thrust upon these 2 individuals isn't completely unwarranted. I have gone over and over again the material on WS from the beginning of this ordeal henceforth and I believe the A's have been given more than enough respect and benefits of the doubt in this case. CA, with her increasingly bizarre behavior, denials of facts, and harboring the one person on the planet who can give her the answers she's so desperately searching for is what has lead me and from my reading, others to despise this woman.

Your story hits alot closer to home because you were your baby's mama, CA isn't. Grandparents love their babies but it ain't the same thing. She didn't carry Cayl's and give birth to her. It's as if she's providing all of the emotion KC should be exhibiting, for her. CA is a really unlikeable character.

[/I]
I cannot believe what I read in your last sentence. So you are saying a woman who has adopted a child because she could not carry a child or a couple who used a saragote does not love their child as much as someone who carries the child and gives birth. HMMM!!!!! You might want to rethink that. A grandmother is a mother. Enough said.

 

[Mendara]

Speak up!! I bashed the A's along with the rest... But I was wrong!! It's easier to go with the flow than point out the flaws.

There's a whole thread on those who believe Caylee is alive. Dont you think they see the holes in the story... And CA has a more valid reason to find every little hole. Her GD and Daughter's life depend on it.

Just because CA says Caylee is alive does not make it so and Caylee's & KC's life does NOT depend on what CA thinks, CA can scream from the hill tops that Caylee is alive and it will not change the facts and the truth. Everything that is happening to CA, KC and the family is a direct consequense of their daughter, KC's actions, not reporting your daughter missing for 31 days and not taking better care of her and being irresponsible will get you where they are today - no one deserves the pain that they are going through - but someone in this family deserves to get punished for failing that child, take your pick on who you want that to be, but in the end someone will PAY for hurting this child.:furious:

 

[Salome]

I agree totally. I think for many here it's simply entertainment. It's nothing more than the latest reality show. Many people seem to have forgotten these ARE real people going through the most horrific event i can imagine. Lots of people here ALSO seem to lack the empathy and compassion for these grandparents. Even IF Caylee is dead and their daughter did it.........these grandparents had no hand in it.

For those that claim to love little Caylee and then go out of their way to bash her grandparents, just remember, no way can you love her more than George & Cindy. IMO it's a miracle neither has had a nervous breakdown, their very sanity is hanging by a thread....and it's obvious.

Well said, and I agree that we need to pull back and have some dispassionate discussion and also some compassion. It's easy to get angry and frustrated, but we're not on the inside, we don't know GA and CA, and we don't know if they're in real denial or not. I'm not sure what it would matter to justice for Caylee even if we did know for sure one way or another, honestly.

Given that situation, wouldn't the best thing be to speculate about all possibilities without sensationalizing or getting enraged, but yet to reserve some compassion or benefit of the doubt for the GPs? Wouldn't that be the truly Christian thing to do (even if it's difficult), for those of you who profess that faith?

The investigation will continue no matter how the GPs act and no matter what they believe to be true or what their mental state is.

 

[tehcloser]

The George and Cindy show is put out for public comsumption. They could stop it. They choose not to, they love the lime light. I don't consider this entertainment at all. I consider it sad. Sad that there are people so evil in this world. Sad that Caylee never had anyone in her life that she could count on. Sad that she was used in a pawn in her mother and grandmothers sick little twisted game. I give compassion to those who deserve it. They do not.

 

[dcorrigano]

Kooba you feel that way because you think Caylee is still alive and that's fine that's you're right. Of course you simpathize with them.
For those of us that believe that LE are the good guys and tell the truth, we believe them and we believe that the A's are supporting a murderer and that's our right.
I know this, if one of my family members "lost" a child and didn't report it at all. If I then reported the missing child after smelling the smell of a dead body in that person's trunk and then that person lied and lied and cussed at me and was indicted on first degre murder charges by a grand jury, I would not be running around telling the world how great of a parent that person was on national tv. They go on and on about what a great daughter she is when they have testified that she repeatedly lied and stole from them even as an adult. I'm going to stop now.......

I dont believe Caylee is alive, and I whole heartedly believe KC killed her.
And I am defending the A's and their actions

 

[Oakley]

It's over, in a nut shell, the Anthony's still believe that Caylee is alive and that she will be found before trial. The evidence can be discredited by expert witnesses. And they will stick by Casey because they will always love her.

(My bolding)

They had been adamant about her coming home for her 3rd birthday too. How sad.

 

[momof3kids]

It would all stop if they asked their daughter if she killed Caylee. They know her well enough to read between the lines of her lies and deceit. They have not asked or demanded she tell them. CA said that herself on national television. They don't need a body. They need to hear it from Casey is all. The proof Caylee is dead is readily available to anyone looking for it, but they refuse to even ask their daughter because it will interfere with her defense (again, CA said this).

How many condemned murderer's parents go on press junkets all over the country and spew obvious lies told by the murderer? I can only think of one. They do not have to do this publically...they choose to! Every interview they do is by choice and they are getting paid to do. Do you hear them begging for Caylee's life to be spared from the people who supposedly have her?! Not once! Do you hear a sense of urgency in their voices to return Caylee?! Not at all!

I would not want to believe my child were capable of something horrific either, but I would also have a responsibility to my grandchild to dig to find the real truth. It would kill me to know, but it would eat me alive to ignore the facts of what happened to my grandchild and not to act on HER behalf. Which is worse?

Don't you think the lawyers would say go on tv and plead with america to bring Caylee home? If you are going to go on tv make it look good atleast. The Anthony's should be holding hands and crying. Make us believe you truely are hurting and missing your granddaughter. This is me on the fence again.

 

[lizzysf]

Do you honestly think the A's have time to sit and go through the TIMELINE? Come on. How do you know what they know? How does anyone on this website know what the A's know or what they are going through? Everyone on this site wants the A's to just admit they are wrong. Why would they do that? Why would they want to believe their Caylee is gone? I believe IF Caylee is gone and her body is found, the A's will come around but for heaven's sake give them some time.
Another thing, so what if they are trying to save Casey. What do you care? She is their daughter, not yours and they have every right to save Casey and Caylee. From what I have read here, no one really wants to keep Caylee's name in the public eye. It sounds like everyone wants the A's to shut up but they are the ones the media is concentrating on and therefore keeping the focus on Caylee. Seems to me they are doing exactly what they should be doing.

The "timeline" has been factually documented. The Anthony's, as much as they would like to dispute it, have nothing to stand on. (they try though, such as lying about things like when the party photos were taken)
I believe the initial "knee-jerk" response from the Anthonys was to be in denial (normal response), until the facts came in. Well, the facts are in. This is no longer denial or hope just for survival. They hit the fork in the road, and have chosen their path. Why do I care? There is a dead 2 year old that deserves justice.

 

[Boots-OK]

Okay...let me get this straight: The A's haven't visited KC in jail because of the "media circus" - yet, they travel to NY and appear on a national tv show for media coverage?

Additionally, I would like a body language expert to review George's demeanor every time Cindy talked....I'm not an expert but my "read" is that he couldn't hold his head up or look forward. JMO

 

[SeriouslySearching]

Didn't the photographer at fusian verify the date of some of the pics?

Yes, both photographers verified the date was June 20th, 2008 as documented by the camera. There are also text messages and posts on websites which back them up that Casey was indeed partying at Fusian that night. There is no way to dispute the photos were taken on that date, in that club, by those men, and it is Casey having a great time or "pretending" to have a great time.

 

[AfterSunset]

At one pt during the interview, I noticed that GA put his hand down on the couch between them, and rubbed his pinky on CA's leg, like he was trying to get her to hold his hand. I think even though there is definitely a disconnect, it is more so on CA's part than GA. I think that he loves his family and wants to maintain the family, he doesn't regret going to the GJ to testify but CA definitely holds it against him. Also, she wants to be in control, not subservient to GA ... my guess on why she is so far apart from him on the couch and is closer to Meredith for the interview. I also noticed she doesn't have gum....

Yes, that is what I noticed also. This was at the point the Meridith was asking about the finding of decomp body and chloroform in trunk of car...It seemed like GA was still reaching out to CA who is leaning totally in the opposite direction of him. But I also noted that as CA responds with "that's a big if"....CA seems to pull herself more up to a straight sitting position next to GA which would indicate to me that even tho there is a huge rift (separation) between them that when confronted (interviewed in public) the facade of pulling together still is what CA wants to the public to see...
jmho.....:cow:

 

[Linda7NJ]

Kooba you feel that way because you think Caylee is still alive and that's fine that's you're right. Of course you sympathize with them.
For those of us that believe that LE are the good guys and tell the truth, we believe them and we believe that the A's are supporting a murderer and that's our right.
I know this, if one of my family members "lost" a child and didn't report it at all. If I then reported the missing child after smelling the smell of a dead body in that person's trunk and then that person lied and lied and cussed at me and was indicted on first degree murder charges by a grand jury, I would not be running around telling the world how great of a parent that person was on national tv. They go on and on about what a great daughter she is when they have testified that she repeatedly lied and stole from them even as an adult. I'm going to stop now.......

I've watched the videos of Caylee and Casey, looked at countless photos, and read what her friends have said about their bond and relationship...everyone said she was a good mother and loved that little girl. From all outward appearances Casey looked like a good & loving mother to me. I've seen nothing and read no statements about the time prior to Caylee's disappearance that would lead Cindy and George to believe Casey deliberately murdered their granddaughter.

 

[lizzysf]

Didn't the photographer at fusian verify the date of some of the pics?

"Absolutely"

 

[Mama-cita]

I am sorry DCorrigano,l I don't think people are condemning them for having hope, but their actions certainly DO NOT mirror their words. They aren't searching,k they aren't talking to her through the TV, doing things that anyone who has a missing child would do! That is the issue. It is like they are just spouting off some crap to cover their daughter's @$$, which is pretty much what they have been doing for KC for her whole life, probably...

Honestly, I dont like CA either. But Im honestly getting sick and tired of people condeming these people for holding hope, as slight as it might be..

None of us have seen the evidence proving Caylee is 100% dead. Yes, LE has said this and that and I have no doubt that there is evidence. What if it was your child or grandchild and there was mountains of evidence proving the child was dead, but....

There could be a 1% or 2% chance the child is alive?? Would you not hold hope and search, would you not want the exposure these people have to find their gd.
There is no doubt they Love this child as much as any of us love the children in our families. Would you give up on your child with any tiny bit of hope?

Now with the tiny bit of chance the child is alive, (as hopeless as it seems) would you just throw your hands up and accept your child murdered someone?

I have no doubt that Caylee is playing with the Angels, I have no doubt that KC did it. But for one moment put yourself in the A's shoes. We dont have to like them or how they acted, it's bad... but Im really tired of people condeming them for holding hope when any of us would do the same thing.

 

[RR0004]

Body language was interesting...other than that...
"Waste, a huge waste."
MOO, of course...

I'm not really sure what the point of this interview actually was, but I will be writing a letter to the show...and I have never done anything like that before.

 

[Linda7NJ]

CA is a really unlikeable character.

She's not a "character" she's a real person going through the worst hell imaginable

 

[dcorrigano]

The "timeline" has been factually documented. The Anthony's, as much as they would like to dispute it, have nothing to stand on. (they try though, such as lying about things like when the party photos were taken)
I believe the initial "knee-jerk" response from the Anthonys was to be in denial (normal response), until the facts came in. Well, the facts are in. This is no longer denial or hope just for survival. They hit the fork in the road, and have chosen their path. Why do I care? There is a dead 2 year old that deserves justice.

No for the As the facts are not in. There is still a chance. Tim Miller will prove to them once and for all there is no chance... Until then, let them do what they need to do to survive without judgment.

 

[Kooba]

Kooba you feel that way because you think Caylee is still alive and that's fine that's you're right. Of course you simpathize with them.
For those of us that believe that LE are the good guys and tell the truth, we believe them and we believe that the A's are supporting a murderer and that's our right.
I know this, if one of my family members "lost" a child and didn't report it at all. If I then reported the missing child after smelling the smell of a dead body in that person's trunk and then that person lied and lied and cussed at me and was indicted on first degre murder charges by a grand jury, I would not be running around telling the world how great of a parent that person was on national tv. They go on and on about what a great daughter she is when they have testified that she repeatedly lied and stole from them even as an adult. I'm going to stop now.......

Mom of Five,
Do you honestly know you would? Do you really think you would jump on the bandwagon and prosecute before you knew the entire truth? I have never said LE are not good guys and gals. What I am saying is, no one knows what these people are going through and to constantly bash them for what they believe is being hypocritical. And why isn't Casey a good parent to Caylee? Just because she lied and stole money that makes her a bad parent? I have lied before to save face and I am a mother of three. I think I am a wonderful mother. We do not know everything that has gone on in that household. What we have seen and read are all the negatives. We have also seen pictures of a loving family. Casey being a loving mother to Caylee. People are prosecuting the grandparents for doing nothing but loving their child and grandchild.

 

[bailee]

I feel sorry for the A's and their loss. That said I think they need to STOP listening to their PR peeps, stop answering their phone for offers of a media moment. Yes this is about Caylee, and they should honor her in a dignified manner. They now need to sit quietly at home and contemplate what has happened, and search their souls for a true answer.
MOO

 

[Celt1997]

I believe that KC killed Caylee. That said, there is no reason that I see to bash the GP's and call them delusional.

Do I think they need to be on the morning shows, doing interviews? NO!

But, I will NOT persecute them for driving a billboard around and trying to find an "alive" Caylee, as it hurts no one. (so long as GA is using his own money to fill the gas tank).

No matter what we see in the evidence, for the people who love Caylee the most (her family) it really IS going to take a dead body for them to believe she is truly gone.

I would never fault anyone for having that hope. Heck, even though I'm 100% certain that KC did kill Caylee, part of me REALLY wants Caylee to come walking home.

The persecution of the GP's helps the investigation no more than their interviews do, which is why the constant bashing makes me a little uncomfortable. But that's just my opinion, and, each to their own.