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I might have missed this but was it stated where Pastor Lane was, and does he have an alibi when Sandra was murdered?
Based on the new information, I'm expanding on my theory a bit. L. Lawless was "saved" from his past, whatever that was, by his Elder Harris. Does anyone think Pastor Lawless is "paying it forward" by having people such as FW and Melissa Huckaby (a.k.a. Lawless) in his life? Am I making sense here?
The only person saying Connie was home is Melissa so we do not know this to be a fact. As far as I know, LE have not given any information as to where Lane or Connie were when Sandra went missing. (I don't know if it is correct, but I do recall hearing her 5 yo daughter was not at home when Sandra went missing. I am trying to find confirmation on this.)I have been wondering the very same thing...
It has been stated that Connie Lawless was home when Melissa went to the church... where was the Pastor?
Was he home, too? Was he at the church already? Where?
Hi Everyone
I know i am brand new here, But i thought i could shed a little light on the subject. I know pastor Lane Lawless and his wife, and have my whole life. I have been to clover road baptist church a number of times. (I also have known the harris family my whole life). I can tell you, you will not find a nicer more genuine man of god anywhere. It breaks my heart to see this family going thru this. (I can not speak for the accused as i can not recall even meeting her.) It seems like there is a mob mentality for this man, that is so very undeserved.
Also for the person who wanted to know about Ted Huckabee, He is my grandfather, and he is not in the ministry.
Anyways thanks for listening. I will answer any questions i can.
JLB
I feel really bad for Pator Lawless and his family! They seem like a normal family helping out a grandaughter who needed a place to live and with getting back on her feet. I feel they are being dragged through the mud for no fault of their own.
Thank you,
It is nice to hear that not everyone thinks he is some criminal in disguise. It made me furious :furious: to see his name dragged thru the mud.
JLB
Baptists will also allow people to be baptized again in the Baptist church. Say, if a child goes forward at the invitation then follows with baptism and goes on to later believe they didn't understand it all. That person could years later , even if after living a bad life for awhile, ask to be baptized again and the preacher will do it. Baptists consider the person a Christian, but not actually a member of the church until Baptism. When baptized, they become a member of the church that did the baptism.
Hi Everyone
I know i am brand new here, But i thought i could shed a little light on the subject. I know pastor Lane Lawless and his wife, and have my whole life. I have been to clover road baptist church a number of times. (I also have known the harris family my whole life). I can tell you, you will not find a nicer more genuine man of god anywhere. It breaks my heart to see this family going thru this. (I can not speak for the accused as i can not recall even meeting her.) It seems like there is a mob mentality for this man, that is so very undeserved.
Also for the person who wanted to know about Ted Huckabee, He is my grandfather, and he is not in the ministry.
Anyways thanks for listening. I will answer any questions i can.
JLB
Hi Everyone
I know i am brand new here, But i thought i could shed a little light on the subject. I know pastor Lane Lawless and his wife, and have my whole life. I have been to clover road baptist church a number of times. (I also have known the harris family my whole life). I can tell you, you will not find a nicer more genuine man of god anywhere. It breaks my heart to see this family going thru this. (I can not speak for the accused as i can not recall even meeting her.) It seems like there is a mob mentality for this man, that is so very undeserved.
Also for the person who wanted to know about Ted Huckabee, He is my grandfather, and he is not in the ministry.
Anyways thanks for listening. I will answer any questions i can.
JLB
Thank you for having this thread and bringing up these points! It seems on the discussion thread no one wanted to talk about this man.....
Elepher...I have been searching and searching, and nothing seems to come up for him until California, although it said in his bio that he was "saved" in Wenatchee, WA. So, being from WA, I started sleuthing. It got me nowhere. I'm thinking another alias based on what I've seen so far. I searched under the man who baptized him, and he's from Omak, WA, and he has more than 1 alias as well. Now, I didn't want to bring this up before tonight, but I will tell you why the town Wenatchee made my ears perk up:
http://www.seattlepi.com/powertoharm/
Research the Wenatchee sex ring and you will see. Pertinent is that once sexual allegations were made, there was a snowball effect, but one would have to imagine that there was sexual misconduct in Wenatchee. It is stated that sex offenders in Wenatchee outnumber citizens 764 to 1. I'm heavily looking into this Tracy 60, if you get what I'm saying. I'm not implicating anyone here, but the word "Wenatchee" and the fact that I can't trace him there makes me uber suspicious.
That website you posted is scary. I went through this thread earlier in the day and marked it to take a look at latter. From the little I have been able to read I am most shocked at how many perps were female or mentally disabled.
I'm not sure if I understand the part that I bolded though, does that mean that for every person in Wenatchee there are 764 sex offenders? :waitasec:
I guess it is interesting that Lawless does have connections to this community, I don't know if we can make any assumptions from it though.
Baptist often don't require the same amount of formal study or a degree from an accredited seminary as other denominations require. There isn't a great emphasis on theological education in many of the Baptist denominations. So it isn't that unusual that he was ordained 4 months after being called.
Thank you FFF, I didn't know any Baptist churches did that. If this is one of those branches of the Baptist denomination, it wouldn't look so hinky after all.
He'd been a Baptist for 19 years by this time, and a minister for some years by this time ( 1979), but it is interesting that they are said to be visiting his step- mother, Esther Lawless relative.. not a Harris, LOL.
Does anyone know who Ted Huckabee is, as in, is he some kind of minister or something? The name sounds familiar.
A couple of other things- it says they lived in San Jose. CA in 1979. I think we need to add that to our places he lived and the date. In 1979, he is said in this society column note to be living in San Jose, CA.
Regarding the obit of Esther Lawless: George had 2 sons when he married Esther in 1955. Chances are, Lane Lawless is from Brewster WA, judging from this article.
Notice it says that Esther " followed the harvests". I guess this means that she worked in the fruit groves as a migratory picker?
I never noticed the "Independent" sign - indeed that does change everything. My background is primarily non-denominational so I certainly understand the range of beliefs Independent would encompass. Back to square one, although we did get an education in Baptist doctrine! It will be interesting to see what becomes significant as this case develops.