Found Deceased CO - Dylan Nicholas Redwine, 13, Vallecito, 19 Nov 2012 *father arrested* #2

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asyousay said:
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I believe Mark did it but I’m just not sure how premeditated it was. I think unfortunately he was a control freak and just couldn’t handle a grown up opinionated teenager. As long as Dylan was a little kid and played by his rules it was dandy but as Dylan got older and saw him for what he truly was then that’s when Mark started to lose control and the resentment started to build.


Then add in the bitter divorce and Elaine having a boyfriend and taking the kids and moving away and starting a new life it and there was Mark just waiting for any excuse to blow up.

You hear it when he speaks about Dylan it’s like Dylan was his possession and not a living breathing human being to him.
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diveguy said:
TBH, I don't think it was premeditated. That doesn't excuse anything, of course.

Dylan was very unhappy at being forced to visit him and didn't want to go, except perhaps to spend some time with his friends in town. He was tired and perhaps grouchy from the flight, and moody as a teenager. Mark was angry, embarrassed, and frustrated at both Elaine and Dylan. Mark "won" by getting the visit awarded to him, which was largely what the visit was about - "winning" over Elaine.

Then there were several points of contention immediately after Dylan's arrival ("I wanted to go to a nice sit-down dinner, he wanted to go to McDonalds" Mark said). Dylan was a young teenager now and aside from his anger/frustration over the visitation and diaper photo discovery, he was more emotional, confident, and not afraid to speak up. I think Dylan and Mark had a verbal confrontation in the home that evening and Mark reacted violently by hitting him or throwing something at him.

One scary thought is that there's a chance Mark didn't kill him with the initial hit/throw. If Mark had just injured him (leaving a cut, bruise, concussion, eye injury, etc. that needed medical care) and the family/attorneys/court found out, he would lose custody, and more importantly to him, "lose" to Elaine. So did he decide to take the next step and finish him off? It's hard to imagine, but then again, look who we're talking about...
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I have never thought it was premeditated. Mark wanted to go to a sit down restaurant and "have a talk." Which never happened.

And per link in thread #1 MR had sweet potatoes in his groceries. I believe he had intentions and doing up thanksgiving meal.

Now add in the charges. They were child abuse which led to second degree murder (or something like that.)

Both of you guys bring out some excellent points in your posts ***
 
CrimeDawg123 said:
BBM - bingo, I think you hit the nail on the head. The point where Dylan was gaining autonomy and losing respect for his father was a dangerous time IMO.
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Yes, and literally rubbing Mark's face in the poop photos is a really dangerous game. I'm a stable person, not given to explosive anger, but it's easy for me to imagine that if I had something like that in my history and someone used it against me, my blood might boil a bit. Imagine if he took it far enough to, for example, threaten to make the photos public. It's easy to imagine that someone already prone to outbursts could completely lose control.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not excusing Mark at all. I'm just trying to imagine my response if the worst thing I've ever done in private was out there and being used against me. It's hard, though, because I don't have poop photos in my history.
 
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Off of vacation--I won't be able to listen and take notes to share today. Ill only get to be in and out.
I would really appreciate all the updates I can get!
 
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RANCH said:
No link. That's why I put JMO or just my opinion in my post. It's the most probable reason IMO.

Do you have a different reason why the judge ruled that Dylan would have to go see Mark?
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I'm just putting this out there....
May be the judge was saying that this would be the last (holiday) visitation for the year...because his mother would have him for Christmas.

And, then after the new year when Dylan turns 14, they would revisit the custody issues and Dylan could give his input, since he would be the proper age to do so.

jmo

ETA: They (mark and dylan) could have argued about that too.
 
Watching these cases cements my belief that I would not enjoy being an attorney. I much prefer the most direct form of communication possible, that is, getting the point across with as few words as possible. The verbal gymnastics required for litigation, I just find exhausting.
 
I had my phone up to my ear listening to the trial earlier waiting for a meeting to start. This witness was discussing how a new program was introduced in 2018 on DNA. Did anything of Dylan’s DNA come from this? TIA
 
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