CO- Dylan Redwine, 13, Vallecito, 19 November 2012 - #41

[Seek&Find]

Does anyone know if the private investigator,Tracy Kostecki, who offered to help Mark Redwine and the family search for Dylan is still helping them?

She's with Rocky Mountain Investigations/Michael Olson, and several of us have commented on not seeing anything from/about them since the "tip" mess. Moo

 

[sarx]

The task force includes multiple agencies, including CBI and FBI.

Though, without knowing the situation, this can be somewhat misleading. How involved and what role did the state and feds take? That makes a huge difference. (yeah, I'm kinda contradicting what I said earlier, it's been a long week and I started assuming they were active in the case)

 

[azgrandma]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Psychic Sleuth
OK I get that. But Dr Phil showed a map from MR's house to T's house. And it was exactly 5.9 miles. My map to the MAIN marina is exactly 5.9 miles.

The is on the assumption that Dr. Phil was working with accurate information.

I seriously doubt that LE would give out that information, and it does not appear that he received it from MR.

That means he must of received his information from ER.

Regardless of whether ER, MR or LE gave DP the information (T's house location) it was given and IMO doesn't really matter WHO gave it to DP. Neither parent disputed that the location indicated was T's home. I don't think that it's an assumption DP was working with accurate information, I believe DP WAS working with accurate information.

I also know that there was NO confusion over whether or not they were talking about the distance from MR's house to T's house, MR was schooled on the distance and tried to save face, not a very well but still tried. IMO

 

[Psychic Sleuth]

and I remember them saying something about being near Pura Vida cafe which is just north on the west side of the dam.

Pura Vida is right where the main marina is (and close to where T lives IMO)

 

[absentia]

Pine, Vallecito and the unknown named river on the east side that empties into Vallecito res at 5 branches campground are the only 3 rivers flowing into Vallecito Res. Pine at the south end by the dam, and Vallecito on the north, that goes by MR's house. Vallecito splits into 5 small branches in spring when there is a lot of snow melt as you can see at the north end of the lake.
also, you can drive right over the dam on the south end on 501A.

 

[absentia]

Pura Vida is right where the main marina is (and close to where T lives IMO)

I thought T lived closer to the north end on the west side. 6 miles from MR's house?
No, you're right. Pura Vida is about 6 miles from MR's house.

 

[deoneta]

What plans have the FBI and local LE made for doing additional investigation of the reservoir?

How much evidence is necessary in order to confer "person of interest" status on MR?

What suggestions did Dr. Phil offer to assist ER in improving communication/interaction with MR?

Has it been verified that MR was the last person to see Dylan?

I read somewhere on the thread that LE said they have a wealth of evidence -- but not enough to point the finger at MR. Have they said MR is at least under a cloud of suspicion, or do you think they don't want him to know they are "onto him."

BBM After individuals who had been named as suspects but never prosecuted began to file suits against police agencies or departments, LE started to go with the less specific POI. Now some are arguing that POI is just another word for suspect and that LE should be held accountable for false allegations. It's a judgement call, but we are seeing fewer and fewer instances of named POIs. Unless a person under suspicion flees, no named POIs before an arrest is made is getting to be pretty standard. All MOO and based on research of lawyers addressing LE conferences on the subject which I did while reading on the Ayla Reynolds thread.

MR is the last KNOWN person to see Dylan AFAIK, but that is all that can be said at this point. All MOO

 

[momshrink]

What plans have the FBI and local LE made for doing additional investigation of the reservoir?

How much evidence is necessary in order to confer "person of interest" status on MR?

What suggestions did Dr. Phil offer to assist ER in improving communication/interaction with MR?

Has it been verified that MR was the last person to see Dylan?

I read somewhere on the thread that LE said they have a wealth of evidence -- but not enough to point the finger at MR. Have they said MR is at least under a cloud of suspicion, or do you think they don't want him to know they are "onto him."

IMO LE has everything needed except Dylan. When they find Dylan, they will know what charges to bring. Without Dylan, how can they know what the charges are? I think they suspect what happened and who did it, but they need to find this child to file charges. What would you charge anyone with at this time?
I think they have more than we think. There is a task force that has been gathering information during these three months. The FBI was called in quickly, within the first three days iirc. This may be small town LE, but the FBI has many, many resources.

IMO MOO

 

[fedfan4life]

There is also another one at about 3.9 miles.

I can only go by what is there, and there are 2 marina's.

But Tristan only has ONE house.

 

[Psychic Sleuth]

I thought T lived closer to the north end on the west side. 6 miles from MR's house?
No, you're right. Pura Vida is about 6 miles from MR's house.

Nope. I posted a map a few pages back. It is on the SW side of the lake.

 

[Eileen730]

She's with Rocky Mountain Investigations/Michael Olson, and several of us have commented on not seeing anything from/about them since the "tip" mess. Moo

I dont think PI Mike O was a legit PI.
JMO

 

[Psychic Sleuth]

Ok so I found the main marina on Vallecito Lake and it is indeed exactly 5.9 miles from MR's house. It is on the west side of the lake.

http://goo.gl/maps/AnGRa

Just bringing the map forward.

 

[azgrandma]

I don't believe he did agree.

I just think everyone assumes that Dr. Phil had been given accurate information and it could never be correct if it came from MR from some points of view.

If the information was not accurate then neither is Dr. Phil's map.

Respectfully, from this point of view, being in the audience, listening to the conversation, seeing what was left on the editing floor. MR was fully aware that the conversation was in regards to the distance from his home to T's home. DP verified the location of T's home and MR did not object that it was T's home, MR did not say - oh I thought you were talking about the end of the road. MR was an engaged person in the conversation. It wasn't until he was wiping the egg off his face that his memory of WHAT the discussion was changed.

 

[Seek&Find]

Though, without knowing the situation, this can be somewhat misleading. How involved and what role did the state and feds take? That makes a huge difference. (yeah, I'm kinda contradicting what I said earlier, it's been a long week and I started assuming they were active in the case)

No, stating that they're members of the task force is not misleading. That's a fact. Extrapolating beyond that could be.

Recently, it was reported, for example, that the FBI had aided in investigating tips that led out of state. No link right now, I can try to find one later.

As tips and other information become available, some are assigned to other Task Force members which include investigators from Durango Police Department, Bayfield Marshal’s Office, Colorado Bureau of Investigation, and the Federal Bureau of Investigation.

link

Members of the task force, along with uniformed Sheriff’s Deputies, will be contacting residents from Vallecito Dam north through the Vallecito area, officials said.

link

Dylan Redwine Task Force has collected 2-inch thick folder full of tips on missing boy's case

Just a few links, in case people are interested in who's in the task force, and what the task force has done. Googling brings up more articles, and there are probably some in the media thread.

Moo

 

[fedfan4life]

I don't believe he did agree.

I just think everyone assumes that Dr. Phil had been given accurate information and it could never be correct if it came from MR from some points of view.

If the information was not accurate then neither is Dr. Phil's map.

Yes, he did agree. There is nothing ambiguous about that.

 

[Psychic Sleuth]

Pine, Vallecito and the unknown named river on the east side that empties into Vallecito res at 5 branches campground are the only 3 rivers flowing into Vallecito Res. Pine at the south end by the dam, and Vallecito on the north, that goes by MR's house. Vallecito splits into 5 small branches in spring when there is a lot of snow melt as you can see at the north end of the lake.
also, you can drive right over the dam on the south end on 501A.

So then Pine River would be the river flowing OUT of the dam not into it correct?

 

[FlyerFan28]

I thought they had dogs out to MR's house in the beginning & either got a scent to the driveway or it stopped to the lake?

 

[katydid23]

What makes you say they are an experienced LE? I am not saying they aren't...but it's a county of 50,000 residents. I doubt they have much experience with missing children or even murder cases.

I was talking about the FBI and the CBI and the Colorado Springs PD, all of whom took part in the search of the home and in setting up the task force.

 

[cluciano63]

IMO LE has everything needed except Dylan. When they find Dylan, they will know what charges to bring. Without Dylan, how can they know what the charges are? I think they suspect what happened and who did it, but they need to find this child to file charges. What would you charge anyone with at this time?
I think they have more than we think. There is a task force that has been gathering information during these three months. The FBI was called in quickly, within the first three days iirc. This may be small town LE, but the FBI has many, many resources.

IMO MOO

FBI has been involved in the other cases of children still missing, two, three, four, or more years later. There is no guarantee that Dylan will be found. Or that charges will ever come.

 

[azgrandma]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ronald99
The 5.9 miles was the Distance from MR house to Tristan's house, Dr Phil googled it.

Then I don't believe Dr. Phil's map is accurate or what MR was stating.

We will have to agree to disagree.

I"m confused, again. DP did not make the map, google did and they have a lot of experience in it. IMO the chances of the one area that is in discussion being inaccurate is highly unlikely.

The confusion, for me, is in regards to BBM - I don't understand what that means or refers to. Are you saying that MR was stating something different than yes, when asked, is this T's house? TIA