CO- Dylan Redwine, 13, Vallecito, 19 November 2012 - #5

[AlexisFresca]

White Castle is some fast food burger joint, iirc

 

[vasportsmom]

What is "White Castles"??

Burger place.


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[Linda7NJ]

Dad talking about Dylan in the past-tense is bothersome. I realize the brother did too but something about the way the Dad said it disturbed me.

What I find utterly bizarre ... Mom, dad and the brother speak about Dylan in the past tense! I've never seen that before. The vigil seemed more like a memorial service for a deceased person.

No pleading for an abductor to return him, no pleading directly to him just incase he ran away.

Most odd indeed!!!!


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[oceanblueeyes]

http://kdvr.com/2012/11/30/authorities-search-home-of-missing-boys-father-near-durango/
BBM


this is new.

I had read earlier in a dailymail article that a neighbor saw Dylan outside the day he went missing.

I will try to find the article again.

IMO

 

[Linda7NJ]

Hypothetically, if I went to my lawyer and confessed to murder, am I protected?


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Yes.

You can't stop by your lawyers on your way to commit murder and share that fact. But after the fact, absolutely


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[hogwash]

On Nancy Grace, in the transcript, a family friend of Mark Redwines, said that Mark told her that Dylan went right to sleep as soon as they got back home.

she is actually a friend of the Mother and Father

 

[Salem]

EVERYBODY - STOP and think about what you are posting. You are accusing this man of all kinds of things without any back up.

KNOCK IT OFF. Either link it or save it until there is something to link. No more posting about alcohol, mental issues or violent behaviors until there is something to base it on. The mom NEVER said MR was violent - she implied, but she NEVER said he beat her or the boys. If that was the case - she would have put it out there. So... watch where your speculation goes and be prepared to link it up or miss a couple of days of posting privileges.

Salem

 

[IHAVENOCLUE]

:giggle:

Oh My Gosh...,I was HOPING someone found that funnee too!

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[katydid23]

In response to Dylan not waking up, on the NG transcript the family friend, Hess? said that he did respond, something on the lines of im not getting up yet or something like that ..I'll go read it again and come back with exactly what was said..

I have read that exchange a zillion times and it is not really clear. It is kind of a mixed message, imo. On one hand, she said that Mark ' made a lot of noise' in an effort to wake him up, which sounds kind of an ineffective way to rouse a sleeping teen. But then she says the boy didnt want to get up and go into town. But there is no actual statement that dad really interacted or spoke with his son. Just that the kid was 'out like a light' as he told someone else.

 

[The Farm]

I had read earlier in a dailymail article that a neighbor saw Dylan outside the day he went missing.

I will try to find the article again.

IMO

But I believe they are now saying theat there is a boy in the immediate area that looks very much like Dylan.

 

[AlexisFresca]

Hypothetically, if I went to my lawyer and confessed to murder, am I protected?


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Protected as in ...?? Trying to understand?
IIRC, if an atty knows his/her client is guilty, I think the only action they are allowed to pursue at that point is the best plea bargain possible?
Its one thing to defend someone who is presumed innocent until proven guilty. But if someone confesses they are guilty, how else could they proceed?

The few cases I recall from many years ago, the case will go to the sentencing phase quickly?
Terri Schunick's case might be a good avenue of info regarding that, since her killer confessed.

 

[scorekeeper]

Curious about this:



BBM. I thought Dylan wasn't reported missing until later in the afternoon. Does this mean there is a confirmed sighting of Mark Redwine starting at noon on November 19th?

http://durangoherald.com/article/20...ors-searching-house-of-Dylan-Redwine-s-father

jumping off your post...

from article:

Lt. Shupe said they would like to thank the community for sharing video footage of the Vallecito area, taken between the evening of Sunday, November 18 and noon on Monday, November 19

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Why do they have the footage stopping at noon and not at when dad reported him missing (4:30/5:00/6:00)? I know dad said when he came home around 11:30, Dylan was gone
but
why wouldn't they want footage after noon to see if they could see what was going on in the area?

Am I making sense?

 

[tlzzdavis]

If MR is innocent I hope he never reads this thread.
It could emotionally and mentally do him in.
Very sad.

 

[Bravo]

What I find utterly bizarre ... Mom, dad and the brother speak about Dylan in the past tense! I've never seen that before. The vigil seemed more like a memorial service for a deceased person.

No pleading for an abductor to return him, no pleading directly to him just incase he ran away.

Most odd indeed!!!!


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I dont find Mom and Brother speaking that way odd at all. Just my opine based on my opine of this whole tragic story.

 

[Confusion]

BBM

I don't agree. I think if he had taken a poly and passed at the start, we would not be here talking about him seeming to be in their sights right now. Dad seems to be their POI right now, so I doubt he passed a polygraph already.

There's also the possibility that they have someone else in their sites, and were searching for any evidence of that person being in the house. Maybe he couldn't get a signal on his phone that morning and was walking around outside trying to find a "hot spot". A neighbor, a guest of a neighbor or someone just passing by (on the way in or out) could have stopped and offered him a ride after finding out what he was doing.

A question I've had that I haven't seen answered, has it been said if the door was locked or unlocked when MR got home on Monday? I was thinking that he might have gotten up, got his stuff together and walked outside to call and find a ride. If he locked the door, or it locked automatically, and he discovered his phone was dead, he wouldn't be able to get back in to use the house phone or charge his battery. If it was unlocked when he got home, I wonder if that's normal when leaving the house empty.

 

[Darcyline]

The story of Dylan being asleep, but not wanting to get up doesn't seem bizarre to me. I have plenty of times had my Mom try to wake me up and I just rolled around or mumbled something without really waking up. I am assuming that is what happened or that is what is being said happened.

 

[oceanblueeyes]

BBM

I don't agree. I think if he had taken a poly and passed at the start, we would not be here talking about him seeming to be in their sights right now. Dad seems to be their POI right now, so I doubt he passed a polygraph already.

Thats ok katy......we dont have to agree but I still say he has taken one already. Everyone of the cases we have seen under these same set of circumstances resulted in polys being given right away. At least within 1-2 days.

I dont see why this case would be any different. Polys arent fool proof. They dont rule someone out just because they passed a poly.......LE uses it as an investigative tool.

If that is all it took that would mean anyone that could pass a poly would be eliminated when they very well could be the guilty party like Ridgeway passed his with flying colors yet murdered almost 50 women.

I dont know if he is a POI or suspect or not. I can only go by what LE is saying and they are saying he isnt. It really is SOP to do a SW on the home where someone went missing from and to impound the vehicles until they can check them out. A lot of times they will do that and then the vehicles are returned to the owner after its been examined.

IMO

 

[AlexisFresca]

I have read that exchange a zillion times and it is not really clear. It is kind of a mixed message, imo. On one hand, she said that Mark ' made a lot of noise' in an effort to wake him up, which sounds kind of an ineffective way to rouse a sleeping teen. But then she says the boy didnt want to get up and go into town. But there is no actual statement that dad really interacted or spoke with his son. Just that the kid was 'out like a light' as he told someone else.

The problem with her statement is that it is basically hearsay, in that, she is relaying based on her memory what MR allegedly told her. Unless someone has a photographic memory, words will be exchanged and scenarios may get confused or muddled when repeated to someone else. The teller may also replace something told them by their own interpretation, which may not always be correct to what was told them.

That 'telephone game' from elementary school is a good example of this.

 

[Bravo]

I just wish they could find Dylan. Of course we all do lease: I wonder how the Family is holding up? I guess that was kinda redundant to ask sigh.....

 

[vasportsmom]

I have read that exchange a zillion times and it is not really clear. It is kind of a mixed message, imo. On one hand, she said that Mark ' made a lot of noise' in an effort to wake him up, which sounds kind of an ineffective way to rouse a sleeping teen. But then she says the boy didnt want to get up and go into town. But there is no actual statement that dad really interacted or spoke with his son. Just that the kid was 'out like a light' as he told someone else.

If my husband is snoring, I *might* act all passive aggressive and make a lot of noise (or lose control of my elbows while adjusting my pillow) to wake him up.

If I want one of my kids to get up, I call to them from their door and if that fails I go in and nudge them while speaking louder to them.


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