PLEA DEAL REACHED - 4 Univ of Idaho Students Murdered, Bryan Kohberger Arrested, Moscow, Nov 2022 #110

[ChatteringBirds]

BRIAN KOHBERGER REACHES A PLEA DEAL. CLICK THIS LINK TO GET CAUGHT UP

This tragedy seems to be breaking news:

Police said they responded to King Road for a report of an unconscious person. When officers arrived, they “discovered four individuals who were deceased...”

4 Idaho college students killed in 'targeted attack,' no suspects in custody

Four University of Idaho students were found dead on Sunday, officials said.

abcnews.go.com

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Probable Cause Affidavit

Press photo album (compilation courtesy of WS member cujenn81)

Moscow ID Police Department Facebook page

City of Moscow re King Road Homicide

Media Guide to the Idaho Courts

Detectives are looking to develop context for the events and people involved in the four murders at 1122 King Rd in Moscow, Idaho. Anyone who observed notable behavior, has video surveillance, or can provide relevant information about these murders:

• Telephone: 208-883-7180
• Email: [email protected]
• Digital Media: fbi.gov/moscowidaho

 

[MassGuy]

Here we go. Hearing tomorrow at 11am local.

https://coi.isc.idaho.gov/docs/CR01-24-31665/2025/063025+Notice+of+Hearing.pdf

 

[Knitty]

Please continue here.

 

[Jw192]

Just for my fellow UK lot, the hearing will be at 6pm tomorrow evening for us (11am Idaho time)

 

[cckp72]

I have never believed once that he was not guilty. However, looking back to when he was arrested and allegedly asked "who else has been arrested?" gives me more of the creeps now. That was so rehearsed, methodical, so cold, so calculated. He wanted a phrase attached to him that would insinuate his innocence and that of someone else being involved.

It will be very interesting to hear what he has to say tomorrow. I would bet he has rehearsed it similar to the arrest statement.

Hopefully he will have to allocate, but I doubt very much he will express any sort of remorse.

 

[Joe Friday]

I have never believed once that he was not guilty. However, looking back to when he was arrested and allegedly asked "who else has been arrested?" gives me more of the creeps now. That was so rehearsed, methodical, so cold, so calculated. He wanted a phrase attached to him that would insinuate his innocence and that of someone else being involved.

It will be very interesting to hear what he has to say tomorrow. I would bet he has rehearsed it similar to the arrest statement.

Hopefully he will have to allocate, but I doubt very much he will express any sort of remorse.

BBM

Is BK required to say anything at all other than he is guilty of all counts during the hearing?

 

[MassGuy]

Two families support the deal, with two families opposing by my count.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1940076201562833012

 

[SteveP]

I assume that any gag orders attached to this case will be lifted as soon as the court accepts the plea deal tomorrow? If true, I bet the weekend shows, Dateline, 20/20, 48 Hours, will all be clamoring to be the first to bring us new information, interviews with people who would be witnesses, etc. How long will it take to get information with FOIA requests?

 

[MassGuy]

I assume that any gag orders attached to this case will be lifted as soon as the court accepts the plea deal tomorrow? If true, I bet the weekend shows, Dateline, 20/20, 48 Hours, will all be clamoring to be the first to bring us new information, interviews with people who would be witnesses, etc. How long will it take to get information with FOIA requests?

We got the watts stuff two weeks later.

This investigation was miles bigger than that, and I can’t imagine how many redactions there will be (countless innocent people investigated).

We’ll get it, but it’s not going to be that fast.

 

[browneyes]

Will the sentencing and victim’s statements be live streamed?

 

[Chimera]

BBM

Is BK required to say anything at all other than he is guilty of all counts during the hearing?

Bbm.
One would hope ?
Sorry for the two families who oppose.
The loss has to be so agonizing, affecting every day and each breath that they take.
They have a life sentence as well.

Still think this is better than taking a chance on a jury who could be fickle.
What do you all think ?
Imo.

 

[QB2022]

Two families support the deal, with two families opposing by my count.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1940076201562833012

This is why it is important to not let SG's <modsnip> voice drown out the voices and needs of everyone else who matter just as much.

 

[Arkay]

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PLEA DEAL REACHED - 4 Univ of Idaho Students Murdered, Bryan Kohberger Arrested, Moscow, Nov 2022 #109

Had to screenshot this from the last thread because I always fumble the carryover:



@minazoe

IMO the only time we glimpsed the real, unadorned Bryan was in his thumbs-up selfie; so proud and satiated after the murders.

All the rest of what we’ve seen has been camouflage, whether talking to the cops in the three times he’s been pulled over, (those that we saw) or in court with his mouthpiece doing the talking and him with his lack of affect expression.

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JM angry opinion.

 

[PunishThenForgive]

I never supported the death penalty until I started following true crime in my own obsessive way.

Like many of you here, I believe BK richly deserves to die for his unconscionable acts, and I viscerally understand the Goncalves family’s need for vengeance.

But the death penalty goes against my values. I try to avoid causing any sentient creature harm, I believe in the power of repentance and forgiveness.

So I’m torn. But the most salient “pro” for the existence of the death penalty is this:

Bryan Kohberger would NEVER have admitted what he did had he not been threatened with the firing squad.

IMO

 

[MassGuy]

Nothing confirmed, but it appears that Kohberger will not have to allocute.

Our only hope may be that he sat down prior to the deal being agreed to and answered questions.

 

[Panniniclaus]

People will need to know why and I doubt we ever get that now. Death penalty would be fine.. if not, hopefully he gets it in prison.

 

[Sundog]

Nothing confirmed, but it appears that Kohberger will not have to allocute.

Our only hope may be that he sat down prior to the deal being agreed to and answered questions.

From what I am reading online about plea agreements, it appears that BK would have had to sign that he gave up his constitutional right to remain silent if part of the plea agreement included the requirement that he answer questions about the crime, etc.

If that wasn't part of the plea agreement, then if the judge adds this requirement then BK would, I assume, have to sign an agreement that he agrees to give up his constitutional right to remain silent on that matter.

JMO from what I have been reading online about the nature of plea agreements in criminal cases.

 

[geevee]

Nothing confirmed, but it appears that Kohberger will not have to allocute.

Our only hope may be that he sat down prior to the deal being agreed to and answered questions.

BBM

I sincerely hope so.

 

[StarryStarryNight]

Nothing confirmed, but it appears that Kohberger will not have to allocute.

Our only hope may be that he sat down prior to the deal being agreed to and answered questions.

Part of the plea deal better have included him at least sitting down a giving the details and answering every question investigators have for him. If not, the prosecution gets zero out of the deal and in my opinion they were holding every card.
I understand he may not allocute in open court, but I expect a full confession.
I also expect him to have to sit and listen to victim impact statement though the people affected haven’t got much time to put this together.

 

[ilovewings]

Bbm.
One would hope ?
Sorry for the two families who oppose.
The loss has to be so agonizing, affecting every day and each breath that they take.
They have a life sentence as well.

Still think this is better than taking a chance on a jury who could be fickle.
What do you all think ?
Imo.

You just never know with juries-- there is a guy named Durst (can't recall first name)- he murdered and actually dismembered a man and the jury acquitted him. go figure. Then there is Casey Anthony and there are many many more where you are sure the defendant is guilty but the jury acquits.