Found Deceased CO - Gannon Stauch, 11, Colorado Springs, Lorson Ranch, El Paso County, 27 Jan 2020 *endangered* #17

[AgeofAquaruis]

I can’t get over how bizarre this part of TS’ statement is. She says that she knows who Gannon left with, despite the narrative that he apparently went to a friend’s house.

Then she talks about someone having sent this person, and alludes to perhaps knowing why.

I just wonder who she is shifting the blame to here. Is she mad at bio mom getting all the attention, and she’s trying to say that she sent someone to kidnap her son?

It’s just so weird. The whole statement is weird. And of course, law enforcement received this information from her, and didn’t put out a description.

Because that happens. Ever.

Last, from day one the Sheriff's office has known a description of the person/friend whom Gannon left with.

I explained to them and provided evidence. They had information about G having the key to go out the side gate. Last they have more in-depth details that go along with this pointing to who sent the person or why he may have come.

Exclusive: Gannon Stauch’s stepmother releases statement about boy’s disappearance

Riiiiiight. So what was she on about with the horrid LEO violating her rights,and playing Wild West Gun slingers,and "caught me",and cuffed her daughter???? in the middle of shopping for undies at Marshall's. She never did elaborate on "Caught me". She's so full of it. Meanwhile Gannon, an 11 year Child is missing,and endangered.
MOO

 

[Bbgiraffe]

Re: SM's statement that GS "kept going to the side of the house" and "checking the gate": I assume she meant GS kept walking out of the garage while he was helping her "unload in the garage" after returning from the 4-hour shopping trip.

If you assume she was talking about after the 4 hour shopping trip, after they got back at 2-ish, then you have to assume this surveillance video depicting this is from saturday, because LS said in her statement that Gannon cut his foot on saturday night. Editing to add "after this, i noticed, G kept going to the side of the house. He told me he was checking to see if the gate was locked..."

 

[dkryder]

And there is greater image/pixel change when there is side-to-side movement. It isn't necessarily that it's sideways movement, it's that the camera picks up more "pixel change" than head on. Your camera doesn't need to be quite as sensitive that way and picks up more of what you really want to capture.

I think you missed the point though. The camera placement is likely functional.

This probably is the case if the camera was level with the object moving but in this case the camera was at about 10 to 12 feet high looking down so that angle would provide for recognizable pixel changes.

 

[ChuckMaureen]

Quote snipped by me.
I'm glad you shared your thoughts.
Do you think it matters how often various scenarios (family violence vs. abduction vs. misadventure vs. voluntarily "running away" for this long) actually occur when an 11-year-old disappears? Should those percentages be considered at all?

Maybe more of a question for us all to consider....

I believe each case goes beyond mere statistics and percentages, even though such criteria can be helpful.

Each case presents with minute and broad sense details and nuances, but in the end all of that may simply funnel down to categories defined in the statistics. I'm just not sure how such criteria helps in actual resolves, beyond the metaphorical, "the (step)parent did it".

Statistics And Percentages offer no evidence nor proof.

 

[MsBetsy]

With the crime truck showing up at the home again yesterday, then the announcement of suspended searches. I think we may soon see an arrest, and a shift to recovery efforts. It seems like EPCSO is methodically eliminating all tips and has a plethora of evidence.

That's what I want to believe anyway. Would they make an arrest before they find Gannon?

I think they would make an arrest without finding Gannon as long as they have enough evidence at this point to ensure a conviction.

Maybe they are just wrapping things up at this point? I hope...

 

[GeorgiaRai]

Seeing the shadows in the video initially made me reluctant to assume only SM returned but now I have to weigh that against what LE had been doing the past week: searching and sifting through snow. If LE was positive GS had returned in the truck would they still have performed the same searches? I am stuck at this point because of course LE would still be searching since GS is still missing, regardless of whether or not he returned in the truck

SBM

CM, Party of Two! We may be the only ones not convinced Gannon disappeared during the shopping trip. For me, the fact that there is so much focus on the home shows it's more likely altercations happened there, not in the truck or on the side of some road Monday afternoon. We don't have any info about the hours between 2:15 and 6 p.m.

Imagine this: Sunday night, GS is injured in a domestic incident. He's kept home from school Monday so nobody sees. TS has to take him on her errands, but they're both still very much on edge. Between stops, something happens. Maybe GS threatens to tell or call his dad, so his phone is taken away; maybe he's slapped or hit or threatened, and he's hurt and very afraid. He moves to the passenger side of the truck to be as far away from her as possible, & when they return home, he jumps out quickly to head for safety/home. What happens next could be similar to what she's said happened, only she misled the timing and the severity; i.e. GS is "helping her unload" in the garage, and gets hurt bad enough that's he's bleeding. He runs, he grabs the only key he is familiar with, and tries to leave through another door. (Speculation only, of course!)

From there, I honestly don't know. Nothing makes sense, just like, to me, nothing makes sense in the "killed in the truck between errands" situation (yet). But evidence could've been tossed randomly after the fact in order to mislead - to draw LE away from the very place the fatal injury happened: the home. If he passed away at or close to home, those "in between" hours might have been used to conceal him, clean up, make up a story (the very story that changed several times because it wasn't true). I just don't know, but - no matter how many times posters imply it - questioning if GS returned home at 2:15 does NOT equate to thinking TS is not responsible for his fate. All my opinion & ponderings only.

 

[Fireflize]

While I like to keep all options and scenarios open, evidence (SAR, LE and Forensic activity) is mounting that SM is involved to some level in Gannon going missing. I am curious about SMs behavior. It almost presents like an odd and mutated version of "munchausen by proxy" in that she seems to get something out of the attention for Gannon (injuries, illnesses, etc), possibly because it's a military family where the military member may be frequently gone for extended periods of time, having to deal with issues large and small alone, etc. This behavior might invoke pity from BD feeding some emotional, separation anxiety need. Initially the breaking news of the search for a Gannon could have been like a shot of adrenaline, but then when public outrage mounted, turned into something unanticipated invoking the anger. Just tossing this out for discussion. Would like to hear from the medical experts here if this is possible.

Interesting thoughts. She certainly gives off strong vibes that something is unhinged in her core.

 

[ChuckMaureen]

bbm

And there is greater image/pixel change when there is side-to-side movement. It isn't necessarily that it's sideways movement, it's that the camera picks up more "pixel change" than head on. Your camera doesn't need to be quite as sensitive that way and picks up more of what you really want to capture.

I think you missed the point though. The camera placement is likely functional.

Yes, as in, it's positioned to capture the whole of the (in this case, the neighbor's) driveway, not to ensure triggers.

Z-axis movement adds or subtracts the total number of pixels that define a particular object (in image context)... which makes that axis equally as valid as X-axis and Y-axis movement. Trigger "sensitivity" could be as little as one pixel change. Not practical but certainly possible.

 

[squareandrabbet]

Gosh i hope we get a more substantial update today, but i REALLY hope Gannon is found today.

In my own opinion, LE wouldn't spend all this time and resources looking for someone they believe left with an individual whom they have a description of or a description of this person's vehicle, without ever releasing any description of the person or vehicle to the public.

i don't know if it has been answered, (probably 16 threads ago) but did LS make that first missing person poster herself? (The one with the picture of Gannon with her at the forefront....eyeroll, mentioning bank cards....also eyeroll) because it says that he "left home to play outside" and if she is the one who made that poster, that means we have 3 versions of what happened from her. 1. He was playing outside 2. He went to a friend's house 3. He left with someone who she had given a description of to law enforcement on day 1 of him being missing. (If we believe this, LE has been searching for over 3 weeks for a boy who left with someone, but apparently, they have no interest in finding this person or have already found this "person" and discredited their involvement, because they are not releasing any description of them.)

I'm pretty sure TS created that poster herself. I've been following the case of another missing child, adorable toddler. One of the things most noteworthy about this case is, probably since the state's bureau of investigation is involved and they've been posting the "Missing" ads, every single one of these ads features Baby, and nobody but Baby. Caretakers and people holding the baby? They're cropped out of the photo as thoroughly as possible; probably because, IMO, everybody looking for these children want the child to be the first and only thing somebody sees. Nobody wants to run the risk of someone glancing past a smiling happy "family photo" and saying "Eh, just another family photo". They want you to be looking for missing person, and only missing person.

This strikes me as basic Photography 101 in addition to LE 101; and I'm sure everybody with a camera phone owns some kind of software to crop out things that aren't important to the main picture.

 

[ChuckMaureen]

If you assume she was talking about after the 4 hour shopping trip, after they got back at 2-ish, then you have to assume this surveillance video depicting this is from saturday, because LS said in her statement that Gannon cut his foot on saturday night. Editing to add "after this, i noticed, G kept going to the side of the house. He told me he was checking to see if the gate was locked..."

There is no reason to assume GS would only check the gate on Saturdays. It's possible SM was attempting to establish GS had performed his "gate" duties on a 'proudly' regular basis.

 

[kpalma71580]

Based on videos that the news posted of the home, did anyone notice if the garage was clear enough to park the truck inside of it?

 

[Fireflize]

While I like to keep all options and scenarios open, evidence (SAR, LE and Forensic activity) is mounting that SM is involved to some level in Gannon going missing. I am curious about SMs behavior. It almost presents like an odd and mutated version of "munchausen by proxy" in that she seems to get something out of the attention for Gannon (injuries, illnesses, etc), possibly because it's a military family where the military member may be frequently gone for extended periods of time, having to deal with issues large and small alone, etc. This behavior might invoke pity from BD feeding some emotional, separation anxiety need. Initially the breaking news of the search for a Gannon could have been like a shot of adrenaline, but then when public outrage mounted, turned into something unanticipated invoking the anger. Just tossing this out for discussion. Would like to hear from the medical experts here if this is possible.

Interesting thoughts. She certainly gives off strong vibes that something is unhinged in her core.

If you assume she was talking about after the 4 hour shopping trip, after they got back at 2-ish, then you have to assume this surveillance video depicting this is from saturday, because LS said in her statement that Gannon cut his foot on saturday night. Editing to add "after this, i noticed, G kept going to the side of the house. He told me he was checking to see if the gate was locked..."

Something happened at that gate, she's trying to explain away any evidence found there, IMO

 

[10ofRods]

My opinion is that there was no room to park the truck inside. It would have had to be decluttered quite a bit to do that.

 

[Knox]

This is a good question. Yes, they could make an arrest before they find Gannon. The problem for me is lack of factual data. Is Gannon dead? Is he alive? Was he murdered? Was it an accidental overdose? Was he kidnapped? Did he run away?

I would assume any arrest would come with accompanying charges, and without factual data, I personally could not name who would be arrested, and on what charges.

Hypothetically speaking, what type of evidence could they have?

• The last person known to have been with Gannon, lied about the circumstances under which he disappeared (he did not run away from home).
• Video evidence from neighbors which detail comings and goings on Sunday & Monday.
• Video evidence from sources not in the Lorson Ranch Subdivision.
• EPCSO direct interviews with the person last known to be with Gannon.
• One media interview and one statement from the person last known to be with Gannon.
• Social media postings from the person last known to be with Gannon.
• Interviews with the two minor children who also lived in the home.
• Direct evidence from the home.
• Direct evidence from more than one vehicle.
• GPS data from vehicle onboard systems.
• Potential evidence discovered outside the home, discarded by the perp.
• Cell phone records.
• Cell phone recording/video.
• Interview(s) with neighbor(s) who may have witnessed something at the home on Sunday or Monday (not everyone posts their involvement on social media).
• Interview with friends of the last known person to be with Gannon, in the days following his disappearance.

I've not had enough coffee yet, so I prob forgot to list other potential evidence. I'm sure you excellent sleuthers will come up with more.

 

[crhedBngr]

Here for Gannon.

 

[Fireflize]

Interesting ... I do not think Gannon made it back home, but open to alternative answers, and this does match with the house being a crime scene.

 

[ChuckMaureen]

Based on videos that the news posted of the home, did anyone notice if the garage was clear enough to park the truck inside of it?

Given the images I've seen of the garage only the left-side bay was clear enough to accept a vehicle but I am not sure as to depth. I've seen the white vehicle parked within, not the red truck but that doesn't mean it couldn't fit.

 

[Knox]

Interesting thoughts. She certainly gives off strong vibes that something is unhinged in her core.

Something happened at that gate, she's trying to explain away any evidence found there, IMO

Agreed. I think after he was hurt, Gannon tried to escape through the gate. She either didn't know about the evidence left there, or cleaned it up but missed something.

 

[Kiranerys]

Morning All THAT was a lot of pages to go through!! I cheated and skimmed mostly. Seems WS really takes off when it's my bedtime!! OK not gonna ask or write anything as need atleast 2 coffees and don't want to repeat what you guys have been discussing Just wanted to feel part of WS by posting and state the obvious...Here for Gannon <3

I feel you,this being in the UK nonsense is a real pain,I wake up and we are always halfway through a new thread,and the worst bit is...still no Gannon

 

[Bbgiraffe]

There is no reason to assume GS would only check the gate on Saturdays. It's possible SM was attempting to establish GS had performed his "gate" duties on a 'proudly' regular basis.

I wasn't assuming anything, i was just replying to one part of your theory. He very well could have obsessively checked the gate many times a day, every day. Just, based on the statement LS made, that is the only mention of the gate. After he was bandaged and "good to go" upon cutting his foot saturday night.