CO - Gannon Stauch, 11, found deceased, Colorado Springs, El Paso County, 27 Jan 2020 *Arrest* #58

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LS is showing the jury she is a manipulative pathological liar, and capable of planning and carrying out a heinous act and attempting to cover it up.
She understands right and wrong, I can’t see how that translates to criminally insane.

While her testifying would not be a good idea if she actually had a chance… but when she begins to feel trapped and desperate she will do one of these… I predict
- fire her defense while on camera so she can defend herself and question/ harass some of the witnesses for her own entertainment- such as her daughter and Gannon’s mom, maybe Al
- throw a fit at a witness, the judge, her attorneys, or the prosecution
- throw a fit in jail
- take the stand and make a spectacle of herself and the courtroom
She is the eternal victim, and wants to prolong this as much as she can, she actually likes the spotlight. Her turtle behavior is an act- her watching and hearing and reacting is her nature.
She will go out in some kind of news splash- she won’t fade away quietly.

JMO
Those are my thoughts. If she takes the stand, it'll be against all legal advice. The judge will try to save her from herself, and she'll go out in a blaze of gory. Misspelling intended. She'll come in looking like some sinister aspect of The Shining and go out like Hannibal Lector, caged and muzzled. She's a menace.

Unredeemable.

Jmo
 
I don't disagree with many of your points. But I think on there's zero chance some of the things you list will actually happen. For example, I do not to think the judge will allow her to fire her court-appointed attorneys and represent herself mid-trial. She's not going to be allowed to harass witnesses by questioning them no matter how much she might want to. Attorneys aren't allowed to do that either.

I know some want to see her tied up Hannibal Lector style during the trial but that's not going to happen. And if she wants to stick pieces of tissue in her ears, no one cares and IMO the judge isn't going to reprimand her for that silly behavior. But she's not going to be allowed to act out in other ways. The judge has made that clear as ANY competent judge would. The chances are greater IMO she ends up in the holding cell during the trial than some of those things happening. But that's JMO.
I hope you are right, and of course that makes sense. If she believes that judge will remove her from the room, she may behave as best as she can.
Problem is, at some point she will feel desperate, and without any control…
What will she do when she becomes unhinged? Calm placating behavior is not her MO, but maybe that is what insane looks like to her?
I don’t think she will be able to help herself.
JMO
 
I can't get past the cut out carpet sections.

Until yesterday we only knew of ONE 2'x2' cut out carpet section, with burn marks and candle wax, which was located in the trash can outside the house.

Then yesterday we learn, there was a second carpet section with large blood stains, hidden and rolled up inside another, larger carpet section, tucked away inside the storage area. That blood stained carpet section didn't have any burn marks on it at all.

So, was the blood stained carpet section we learned about yesterday, the original carpet next to the couch? Keeping in mind the testimony given stated there was a presumptive hit for (possible) blood on the burned area of the carpet next to the couch. So then, was the bloodied carpet removed, and replaced with another piece of carpet that she then burned intentionally, to claim that's why she had to cut that section out?
That is exactly what I think happened at this stage. But we may get information from other witnesses later that changes my position.

MOO
 
I can't get past the cut out carpet sections.

Until yesterday we only knew of ONE 2'x2' cut out carpet section, with burn marks and candle wax, which was located in the trash can outside the house.

Then yesterday we learn, there was a second carpet section with large blood stains, hidden and rolled up inside another, larger carpet section, tucked away inside the storage area. That blood stained carpet section didn't have any burn marks on it at all.

So, was the blood stained carpet section we learned about yesterday, the original carpet next to the couch? Keeping in mind the testimony given stated there was a presumptive hit for (possible) blood on the burned area of the carpet next to the couch. So then, was the bloodied carpet removed, and replaced with another piece of carpet that she then burned intentionally, to claim that's why she had to cut that section out?
I thought I'd understood what was going on with the burned carpet/candle incident. Yesterdays testimony about burned carpet with associated blood stain left me with more questions than answers.
 
I can't figure out what happened the night before. I also believe the carpet burning was to cover up a blood letting event, however, Gannon was burned and that seemed to concern him greater than any other injury at that time. But there's also planning involved. Letecia wanted the girls and dogs out of the house - but not Gannon. She mentions covering up smoke detectors (?). What was her plan? Whatever it was, it didn't work, and she needed to take the Monday to further her torture of a child in her care and eventually end his life.

She's sat in the court room, plugging her ears with tissue to avoid only her own voice, swearing at witnesses/the jury/the family (I don't know), communicating to the jurors and making "jokes" to her defence team. No remorse. No empathy. No humanity. She is still demonstrating calculated planning, but she's bad at it. Lock her away.
I’m afraid we will never know the whole truth, I think she was torturing Gannon with meds and situations for weeks or months motivated by selfishness and resentment.
I wondered if she had hurt him and knew he would tell. So she planned to set the place on fire and burn him and all the evidence, but the carpet did not burn like she expected it would? She desperately began to try to cover up evidence.
It all went wrong, and one lie cascaded into a pattern of lies and running and desperation, and now she is fine with throwing her own daughter under the bus.

JMO
 
Thinking about the question of if she takes the stand. I believe she will, IF miss Harley's testimony is too damaging towards her. The defense has been subtly suggesting Harley as a suspect, and this is their door to a defense. MOO
But, Leticia has admitted to killing Gannon by virtue of pleading NGRI. The Defence’s claim is that Leticia had been spiralling out of control prior to Gannon’s murder and that when Leticia killed our boy she was insane.

There’s no need to create any reasonable doubt as to who’s responsible or introduce a different suspect. It’s Leticia.

At this point the State is hard at it proving that Leticia is not insane. Her ability to know right from wrong, her planning, her attempts at a cover up etc.

According to DA Michael Allen, HH is going to testify to Leticia’s state of mind. If I’m not mistaken, the Defence cannot ask any question they like. They can only ask a question as it relates to the witness’ testimony.

The Defence hasn’t got anything. They clearly are not engaged in this trial at all. I think they ask their asinine questions on cross so it appears they are working.

MOO
 
But, Leticia has admitted to killing Gannon by virtue of pleading NGRI. The Defence’s claim is that Leticia had been spiralling out of control prior to Gannon’s murder and that when Leticia killed our boy she was insane.

There’s no need to create any reasonable doubt as to who’s responsible or introduce a different suspect. It’s Leticia.

At this point the State is hard at it proving that Leticia is not insane. Her ability to know right from wrong, her planning, her attempts at a cover up etc.

According to DA Michael Allen, HH is going to testify to Leticia’s state of mind. If I’m not mistaken, the Defence cannot ask any question they like. They can only ask a question as it relates to the witness’ testimony.

The Defence hasn’t got anything. They clearly are not engaged in this trial at all. I think they ask their asinine questions on cross so it appears they are working.

MOO

I agree with you, but I also see Letecia being furious that Harley is willing to testify against her, and 'T' will be ever so willing to try and discredit her. She is pissed. She doesn't want to face her, nor hear what she has to say. But, knowingly LS cannot take the truth and if given the opportunity, she might just go after Harley the only way she can. MOO
 
But, Leticia has admitted to killing Gannon by virtue of pleading NGRI. The Defence’s claim is that Leticia had been spiralling out of control prior to Gannon’s murder and that when Leticia killed our boy she was insane.

There’s no need to create any reasonable doubt as to who’s responsible or introduce a different suspect. It’s Leticia.

At this point the State is hard at it proving that Leticia is not insane. Her ability to know right from wrong, her planning, her attempts at a cover up etc.

According to DA Michael Allen, HH is going to testify to Leticia’s state of mind. If I’m not mistaken, the Defence cannot ask any question they like. They can only ask a question as it relates to the witness’ testimony.

The Defence hasn’t got anything. They clearly are not engaged in this trial at all. I think they ask their asinine questions on cross so it appears they are working.

MOO

I think the defense is grasping at straws, aiming guilty toward HH will not sit well with the jury as she was only 17 And the lived as a minor in the home of an obviously controlling, angry, and manipulating pathological liar.
My thoughts on the defense is the same as yours, they are just shy of worthless. Finally it seems they know how to say Stauch! What idiots. Problem is, she could appeal based on inaddequate defense.

JMO
 

11hr

Letecia said she wasn’t trying to escape, and she just wanted to open the door and get some air.


Bethel said Letecia slipped out of her handcuffs, grabbed an un-opened Monster energy drink, and hit the deputy in the face who was sitting next to Letecia. Bethel said she believes Letecia was trying to reach for their guns and escape.
 

11 hr

Judge Werner: “Ms. Stauch, what you need to understand is I can control the conduct of an awful lot of people in the courtroom, including yours... If that continues, I can have you removed, and the trial will continue without you, and you will sit in a holding cell..."


Allen said about Letecia's behavior, “It’s disrespectful to this court. It’s disrespectful to this process.”

This is not something I could see where I was sitting in the courtroom in the gallery, directly behind Letecia Stauch. Judge Gregory Werner said he was not aware of this either, but also said he will not tolerate that kind of behavior.



District Attorney Michael Allen said he was made aware of photos of Letecia Stauch flipping people off in the courtroom during trial, including witnesses and Gannon’s family.

As the day was wrapping up at the Letecia Stauch murder trial, we also learned one of the jurors knew one of the witnesses. The judge will decide on Monday if they’ll bring in an alternate juror.
 
Friday marked the end of the second week of Letecia Stauch’s jury trial, where the prosecution entered into evidence a video of Stauch assaulting an El Paso County detective while being taken to jail from South Carolina.

The video was taken in early March after El Paso County detectives flew to Myrtle Beach, S.C,. to arrest Stauch for the murder of her 11-year-old stepson, Gannon Stauch, on Jan. 27, 2020.


In the video, Stauch can be seen hitting a female detective with a Monster energy drink who is sitting next to her in the back seat of the van, then attempting to reach across her lap. Bethel testified that she believed Stauch slipped her handcuffs, and was lunging for her partner’s firearm during the interaction.
 
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But, Leticia has admitted to killing Gannon by virtue of pleading NGRI. The Defence’s claim is that Leticia had been spiralling out of control prior to Gannon’s murder and that when Leticia killed our boy she was insane.

There’s no need to create any reasonable doubt as to who’s responsible or introduce a different suspect. It’s Leticia.

At this point the State is hard at it proving that Leticia is not insane. Her ability to know right from wrong, her planning, her attempts at a cover up etc.

According to DA Michael Allen, HH is going to testify to Leticia’s state of mind. If I’m not mistaken, the Defence cannot ask any question they like. They can only ask a question as it relates to the witness’ testimony.

The Defence hasn’t got anything. They clearly are not engaged in this trial at all. I think they ask their asinine questions on cross so it appears they are working.

MOO

OK, try this on for size. They subtly (as a brick) try to create reasonable doubt, paint Harley as the possible culprit. Letecia discovers the body and panics, believing one of her alters has snapped amd killed Gannon, so she takes measures to fix the scene and the narrative, it's a reason able conclusion for her to come to and she panicked. After the fact, she came to realise that Harley had done it and she felt she had to protect her so she carried on with this ridiculous charade of a defence.

This is, after all, the Letecia show :mad:
 
OK, try this on for size. They subtly (as a brick) try to create reasonable doubt, paint Harley as the possible culprit. Letecia discovers the body and panics, believing one of her alters has snapped amd killed Gannon, so she takes measures to fix the scene and the narrative, it's a reason able conclusion for her to come to and she panicked. After the fact, she came to realise that Harley had done it and she felt she had to protect her so she carried on with this ridiculous charade of a defence.

This is, after all, the Letecia show :mad:
Wow, I think you’ve channeled the mind of LS quite closely, that may be exactly how she is thinking. Surely the defense has some sense

JMO
 

During cross-examination, attorney Will Cook presented Bethel with a copy of the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders, 5th Edition (DSM-5), which Cook referred to as the “bible” for psychiatrists diagnosing mental disorders.

Cook asked Bethel if her determination of Stauch’s sanity was made using knowledge from the DSM-5, which Bethel confirmed it was not.

At several points in the trial on Wednesday, where Bethel spent the full day testifying, Stauch could be seen reading the DSM-5 at the defense table.
 
I can't get past the cut out carpet sections.

Until yesterday we only knew of ONE 2'x2' cut out carpet section, with burn marks and candle wax, which was located in the trash can outside the house.

Then yesterday we learn, there was a second carpet section with large blood stains, hidden and rolled up inside another, larger carpet section, tucked away inside the storage area. That blood stained carpet section didn't have any burn marks on it at all.

So, was the blood stained carpet section we learned about yesterday, the original carpet next to the couch? Keeping in mind the testimony given stated there was a presumptive hit for (possible) blood on the burned area of the carpet next to the couch. So then, was the bloodied carpet removed, and replaced with another piece of carpet that she then burned intentionally, to claim that's why she had to cut that section out?
This is exactly how I put this together.

However, I wonder if it could it be as simple as Gannon vomiting. One of the several side effects of hydrocodone/vicadin is vomiting blood. He already has digestive and bowel troubles. It wouldn't be a stretch of the imagination to find out he vomited blood.
 
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