CO - Gannon Stauch, 11, found deceased, Colorado Springs, El Paso County, 27 Jan 2020 *Arrest* #68

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iamshadow21 said:
I do wonder if they'd been able to prove the burns, whether they would have let it stand.

We have him crying about them, and LS saying he had them (but she lies about everything), but he was out there in the elements for too long, unfortunately. And I trust that if the ME could have found them, she would have. They knew about the video, knew about the potential for burns long before he was found. They would have been looking.

Ah, well, we'll never know. And it shouldn't affect the verdict that it's been dropped.

MOO
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IIRC Mr. Allen dropped that charge of child abuse resulting in death because he said it requires proof of a pattern of abuse .

JMO



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I thought I'd wake up this morning, Sat, to it all over , done and dusted.. However, that was an attentive and detail oriented jury, so hours spent in deliberation won't be wasted, is how I see it. I hope that L gets the particular one of premeditated murder, right between those eyes, as that is what it was. She was Dunning-Kruger Narcissistic about it, but that doesn't mean she was insane. I believe that jury will see that clearly. She planned it, she tried it on a few times, and finally she succeeded. LWOP , nothing less.
 
Cindizzi said:
IIRC Mr. Allen dropped that charge of child abuse resulting in death because he said it requires proof of a pattern of abuse .

JMO
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Perhaps they would have had to do something like put Little Sis on the stand to prove it, and even then it may have just been her word against LS's. Not worth it. Not when they have such a volume of evidence for the other, more serious charges. It would be different if at autopsy they'd found characteristic signs of physical abuse, as we've seen in other children. Little Sarasvati (Sherin Mathews) comes to mind, so much pain that baby endured. But the injuries Gannon endured were all perimortem, as far as I know.

MOO
 
linds1393 said:
I don't think I've ever been this anxious for a guilty verdict. Last time I was all worked up over one was Derek Chauvin.
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texaslb218 said:
For me....Scott Peterson, Casey Anthony.
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For me, Casey Anthony and O.J. Simpson are NG verdicts that still sting.

Just recently, I was on tenterhooks to see Murdaugh declared guilty, and thank God that worked out.

IMO if LS is found NG there is no justice. Even if it’s NGRI.


jmo
 
I didn’t know that judges read the jurors notes?
Have there been appeals because a juror didn’t take notes justifying their verdict? Never heard of that.
 
Our mutual friend also expressed confidence that with every minute the jury is out deliberating her fate, Letecia's anxiety level is increasing exponentially.

The proverbial sword is now dangling over her head.

All she can do is sit helplessly and wait for it to fall.

The anticipation is killing her.

Slowly.
 
I went to a baseball game hoping to come back to a verdict, only to find out they were deliberating still.

How long were they there? 4 hours? Obviously some people arent seeing eye to eye IMO. That really concerns me. Im way too invested in this trial.
 
Checking in only to find the jury’s gone home for the weekend.

Hard as it is I had to remind myself that the jury isn’t here at my beck and call and will move along at its own pace. I remain confident that we’ll see a guilty verdict.
 
The jury may not have finished gong over the mountain of evidence between themselves - they may not have even started deliberation as far as taking votes on guilty or NGRI yet.

Maybe they want to go over everything together now that they are allowed and don't want to rush through it - for all we know they all have their minds made up but haven't discussed that particular part amongst themselves yet.

I have faith in these jurors!
 
Perhaps the jurors looked at the clock and decided first to decompress. We've been doing it here, often during the trial but always after. All night for some of us. It was exhausting. They didn't get to do that. With anyone. I can imagine something of a safety valve in the jury room, finally able to release. So perhaps they took that time to react. They've formed their own community over these intense weeks. Bet it felt good to unpack, offload, debrief, even breakdown. Once they got that out of the way, the hour would've been drawing near. Perhaps they agreed collectively to do the formal paperwork Monday morning.

Gannon was a micro preemie. Al and Landen lived with his life in the balance for months. Gannon fought to live with uncanny courage and superhero power. Then Gannon fought the Dark Lord Himself, T. "Why, Tecia, why are you doing this?" A sustained attack... the injury to his face, the narcotics, the fire (wrapped in blankets -- horrors)... then the torturous car ride, the stabbing -- 18 wounds, most of those injuries defensive. Four crushing blows to the skull. Front and back. And then the gun-- he may have dodged the first too. Fighting for his life...


And now his parents have waited -- waited for an arrest, waited for Gannon to be found, waited for his remains to be positively identified, waited for trial. Delay after delay. And now they wait again.

So... we wait with them. We hold vigil. We uphold Gannon, the warrior -- warrior for life. For love and goodness and silly jokes and Irresistible smiles.

Jmo
 
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Observant-ADHD-ENFP-BSc said:
Ian Huntley was the one that had me on the edge of the seat.
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The killers of Lauren Barry and Nichole Collins. Nichole was my age, and Lauren resembled my cousin (that I grew up with who was like my sibling) closely enough she could have been her sister. The details of their deaths were horrific. It wasn't the first child death close to home. That was Damien Noyes, whose body was dumped within sight of my infants school. I was eleven when he died. His killer's out of prison, now.

I just hope that it's all enough, that LS never gets a chance to hurt another child, ever again. Once is too many times. Twice is unacceptable. That Damien's killer is out there now makes my throat tight. He should never have been freed, ever. I don't want to learn in twenty years that she's out on parole, or declared 'cured'. I want her caged, and society protected from her, and for there to be no end date for that besides her death. No second chances. No second victims.

MOO
 
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MassGuy said:
Our mutual friend also expressed confidence that with every minute the jury is out deliberating her fate, Letecia's anxiety level is increasing exponentially.

The proverbial sword is now dangling over her head.

All she can do is sit helplessly and wait for it to fall.

The anticipation is killing her.

Slowly.
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Waiting for the sword, great analogy from your friend, Why am I knot surprised ?

Hope Letecia's weekend seems like 10 years.
 
iamshadow21 said:
I do wonder if they'd been able to prove the burns, whether they would have let it stand.

We have him crying about them, and LS saying he had them (but she lies about everything), but he was out there in the elements for too long, unfortunately. And I trust that if the ME could have found them, she would have. They knew about the video, knew about the potential for burns long before he was found. They would have been looking.

Ah, well, we'll never know. And it shouldn't affect the verdict that it's been dropped.

MOO
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Good point. Score a half point for LS, I guess. She managed to obliterate crucial evidence (so NAB her on the evidence and body tampering!!!!)

Yes, it shouldn't affect the verdict. How we all deal with the mental image of the story of what happened to Gannon, I don't know. How his parents and family/friends deal with this, well - some WSers know, but I don't know from personal experience and it hurts my heart to think about it.
 
iamshadow21 said:
The killers of Lauren Barry and Nichole Collins. Nichole was my age, and Lauren resembled my cousin (that I grew up with who was like my sibling) closely enough she could have been her sister. The details of their deaths were horrific. It wasn't the first child death close to home. That was Damien Noyes, whose body was dumped within sight of my infants school. I was eleven when he died. His killer's out of prison, now.

I just hope that it's all enough, that LS never gets a chance to hurt another child, ever again. Once is too many times. Twice is unacceptable. That Damien's killer is out there now makes my throat tight. He should never have been freed, ever. I don't want to learn in twenty years that she's out on parole, or declared 'cured'. I want her caged, and society protected from her, and for there to be no end date for that besides her death. No second chances. No second victims.

MOO
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I think this is why we're going to see a guilty verdict. Guilty not with insanity. Because she does have the potential to hurt and kill again. And to kill again .....children.
 
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