CO - Jessica Ridgeway, 10, Westminster, 5 Oct 2012 - #6

[Tracey4AU]

It is supposition based on LE's statements after the backpack was found. We do not know what, if anything was in the backpack.

Thanks! :seeya:

 

[cluciano63]

I don't think that any possible dismemberment would be done these days to hide identity, since DNA would be used anyway and can be done quickly in many cases. If anything, to hide cause of death and/or make disposal easier.

 

[Beetlebrow]

I know this sounds sick but if her skull was missing and hands could perp have done this because of description about the sore on her nose and maybe she fought back and could have gotten DNA under her nails. It would give him time to hide while they couldnt be sure it was her until DNA came back? moo

I think he was eliminating a quick identification thru dental records and or fingerprints.

With all the publicity and immediate searches.....I am surprised he would go to all the trouble unless she was killed fairly quickly and he dumped the backpack after he placed the body parts....ugh I hate writing stuff like this.

 

[trigger]

RE: AWARE does not stop it from happening!

A very tragic irony; 'Colorado, has refused to pass Jessica's Law'?

"Guess, we are witnessing the tragic results"...

Eileen730, many laws such as Jessica's Law are being passed that will eventually make a difference, imo. Only 5 or 6 US states have refused to pass Jessica's Law: Colorado, New Jersey, Vermont, Illinois, Idaho, & New York..
http://www.billoreilly.com/jessicaslaw

What is Jessica's Law?

Named in memory of Jessica Lunsford, who was abducted and sexually assaulted before being brutally murdered, "Jessica's Law" refers to the Jessica Lunsford Act passed in Florida which mandates a minimum sentence of 25 years and a maximum of life in prison for first-time child sex offenders.

Read more on the Jessica Lunsford Act
Federal Database of Sex Offenders


Jessica's Law is the informal name given to a 2005 Florida law, as well as laws in several other states, designed to protect potential victims and reduce a sexual offender's ability to re-offend.

We are in the middle of a presidential election, Eileen730. Not once have I heard a candidate mention the Silent Epidemic of missing/murdered children/persons. Together, we can bring this very important Public Safety matter to the forefront..

I watched JVM the other night and Mark Lunsford was on saying there is no Jessica's law in Colorado. Maybe its something to think about doing.

 

[saba]

New Information: Yesterday, the Principal of Skyview Elementary School informed parents that authorities have reopened the investigation into several attempted child-enticements, which occurred during the previous school year (2011-2012). A male, driving a vehicle, which may have been brown or tan-colored, attempted to lure female students inside his vehicle.
SOURCE: Members of my family whose children attend Skyview Elementary

Also, Thornton Police have increased their patrols on bike-paths at night. A bike-cop was patrolling bike-paths at 8:30pm October 11, 2012.

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Zola- Thanks for the local info. I was wondering when this investigation was going to jump to the east side of Hwy 36.

 

[cakegirl0905]

Really, super random thought here. I'm getting a little to Dexter-y with this theory, but....
Back pack six miles from home, body another six miles...I wonder I'd her other parts will be dumped at another point six miles away...666.
Sorry, that's way too movie like. It just seems like he's trying to send some kind of message. Dude is super scary IMO.

 

[Foxfire]

I did not hear the current FBI rep say it. I am only going by what actual, present LE is saying in this case. Not interested in the musings of paid "news" show guests.

RE: I am only going by what actual, present LE is saying in this case

All we have heard from LE up to this point is silence, cluciano63.

Clint VanZandt has paid his dues as an FBI BAU Profiler, hostage negotiator, and proven expert on personal safety issues, and was an actual victim of an abduction as a child..

Clint VanZandt is very perceptive and has a pretty impressive resume, imo..

 

[passionflower]

are there many hunters in wide open spaces?

 

[Ari]

Wear purple today in honor of Jessica and her family.

 

[SuziQ]

I read that as if they found the unicorn pillow at another spot. the LE was talking on the walkie to another LE at the rec ctr doing the search. He said - she does has a unicorn pillow so if she was at the rec ctr she must have come back "here" at some point. not sure where "here" was.

Wishing I knew where here was. Location of Pillow pet might be the exact abduction point. Or at least indicates she made to inside the park.

Paraphrasing from scanner rewind.

Last seen with pillow pet at rec center 8:30Am
We=LE, has pillow pet at scene
If earlier at the rec center, she must have come back here.

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[cluciano63]

RE: I am only going by what actual, present LE is saying in this case

All we have heard from LE up to this point is silence, cluciano63.

Clint VanZandt has paid his dues as an FBI BAU Profiler, hostage negotiator, and proven expert on personal safety issues, and was an actual victim of an abduction as a child..

Clint VanZandt is very perceptive and has a pretty impressive resume, imo..

I don't feel that way at all. I think LE has been as open as possible in this case, and still getting their work done.

 

[Beetlebrow]

I watched JVM the other night and Mark Lunsford was on saying there is no Jessica's law in Colorado. Maybe its something to think about doing.

I wish local Colorado news stations would feature this fact in a large HEADLINE!!!

 

[passionflower]

Really, super random thought here. I'm getting a little to Dexter-y with this theory, but....
Back pack six miles from home, body another six miles...I wonder I'd her other parts will be dumped at another point six miles away...666.
Sorry, that's way too movie like. It just seems like he's trying to send some kind of message. Dude is super scary IMO.

anything is possible........he may be a CSI watcher...........
do we know if any stories have been like this on TV?
to help fuel his desire???

 

[SurfieTX]

At Witt Elementary on Thursday afternoon, Moore Street, along the front of the school, was flooded with parents who were there to make sure their kids had an escort home.

"Now all of a sudden it's back to picking them up," said John Kosienski, of the to-and-from school pattern for his children, 11-year-old sixth-grader, Isabella, and her younger brother, J.T., a 7-year-old second-grader.

The family lives just a couple of blocks from the school and the pair had been walking without adult supervision, but now their dad is getting time off from work to pick them up and drop them off.

"I'm going to keep picking them up for a while," Kosienski said. "The safety is gone — kids can't grow up the same way we did."

More than 50 cars lined Moore Street on Thursday and other parents walked from nearby homes to escort their kids, all under the watchful eye of several Westminster police officers.

"It's chaos," said Natalie Madrid, there to pick up her two children, 11-year-old Korie Boren, a sixth-grader, and 7-year-old Cody Boren, a second-grader.

Madrid said she walked her kids back and forth even before the alarming disappearance.
"I'm here every day for my kids," Madrid said. "I'm very scared for my children's safety."

Natalie Madrid crosses the street with her arm around her daughter, 11-year-old Korie Boren a sith- grader ,as she picks up her kids from Witt Elementary School in Westminster on Oct. 11. (THE DENVER POST | Joe Amon)
Madrid has versed her kids about "stranger danger," she said.

"You used to see kids walking home in groups laughing — not anymore," she said.

Read more: Jeffco students to wear purple Friday in honor of Jessica Ridgeway - The Denver Post http://www.denverpost.com/breakingn...e-friday-honor-jessica-ridgeway#ixzz2965TExu0
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[stealth]

I watched JVM the other night and Mark Lunsford was on saying there is no Jessica's law in Colorado. Maybe its something to think about doing.

Ironically and quite tragically - this is an issue that has been raised by candidates in a local election PRIOR to this event. I'll leave out commentary so as not to make a political statement but at least one candidate has been running attack ads about another candidate not supporting passing "Jessica's Law".

 

[Beetlebrow]

Wear purple today in honor of Jessica and her family.

Thank you for this....:rocker:

 

[gliving]

http://abcnews.go.com/US/jessica-ri.../comments?type=story&id=17460629#.UHgt7G_j-xk

The first comment hits home for me. 10:26

 

[Nana46]

This pillow pet thing...my granddaughter's have two and they are quite large....I don't see how they could fit into a backpack...interesting....why would she carry that to school?:banghead:

 

[absentia]

the FBI spokesperson said "sophisticated"

http://www.denverpost.com/news/ci_21754575/fbi-look-strange-behavior-suspect

here is what the fbi agent said. (nothing on "experienced" that I heard)

 

[Beetlebrow]

http://ericahutton.blogspot.com/2011/03/psychological-associations-of.html

Interesting article. Apparently it is RARE for child killers to dismember their victims.