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I'd think they'd need a body.With all the speculation that she was pregnant.... If she were, would he not be charged on 2 counts of murder instead of 1? Or would they need a body to confirm there was a pregnancy?
Cell phone data nailed him.
that's not from today. this one is
Patrick Nelson @PatrickNelsonTV
Frazee has appointed an attorney and will appear in court on Dec 31 at 8:30am. Judge ordered no cell phones or cameras. Frazee is allowed to talk with his family and his attorney's team can access court documents. Frazee will be held without bond until further notice.
“Frazee has appointed an attorney is nonsensical. Did the court appoint a public defender for Defendant?
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2:52 PM - 21 Dec 2018
Thrills me that there are ppl that are ignorant to digital fingerprints. I love it.
such intense level of control and entitlement. the life of the victim means nothing and has no weight for them. the lives of those affected don't matter to them either. it's all about their experience of power. In this case, I think PF's mom may have played into it. A sick, Psycho-like dynamic there.
I think it's possible,or he had help cleaning up.There are some pretty sick people out there!
Court Filings: Colorado Judicial Branch
MOTION FOR PRESERVATION OF PHYSICAL EVIDENCE: https://www.courts.state.co.us/userfiles/file/Court_Probation/04th_Judicial_District/Teller/caseofinterest/2018CR330/001/MTN Preservation Phycisal Evidence.pdf
MOTION TO LIMIT PRETRIAL PUBLICITY: https://www.courts.state.co.us/userfiles/file/Court_Probation/04th_Judicial_District/Teller/caseofinterest/2018CR330/001/Motion To Limit Pretrial.pdf
MOTION FOR PRESERVATION AND PRODUCTION OF LAW ENFORCEMENT NOTES, RECORDINGS, AND OTHER EVIDENCE: https://www.courts.state.co.us/userfiles/file/Court_Probation/04th_Judicial_District/Teller/caseofinterest/2018CR330/001/MTN for Preservation PD Notes Recordings.pdf
ORDER RE: MOTION FOR PRESERVATION OF PHYSICAL EVIDENCE: https://www.courts.state.co.us/userfiles/file/Court_Probation/04th_Judicial_District/Teller/caseofinterest/2018CR330/001/Order Preservation of Physical Evidence.pdf
PROCEDURE FOR FILING MOTIONS AND RESPONSES: https://www.courts.state.co.us/userfiles/file/Court_Probation/04th_Judicial_District/Teller/caseofinterest/2018CR330/001/Procedure for filing Motions and Responses.pdf
And, IMO, Shanann helped solve her own murder because of that open book.You know what else I was just thinking? We were so informed because Shanann was so active on SM. Can you imagine how little we'd known before the doc dump if it weren't for her activity? I think we're all feeling the lack of information b/c we got a little spoiled with the open book of the Watts' lives.
Yeah, I mean this is first degree murder. I would guess 100k at least.
But I also bet they'll bet the farm to get him private representation.
There are sometimes patterns in these murder cases when the murderer is male and kills his significant other. Enmeshed with parents who feel he can do no wrong. Dependency.
I predict they'll rally around and come up with the funds to get lil' Bubba out of trouble, probably not the first time.
With all the speculation that she was pregnant.... If she were, would he not be charged on 2 counts of murder instead of 1? Or would they need a body to confirm there was a pregnancy?
Thanks so much for this link, I always like to keep up on the docs when they are available.
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On another subject, I keep seeing PF being referred to as the primary care giver or custodial parent. I wonder how this has been determined. If K resided with KB, it doesn't matter if PF was daytime caregiver. The parent who houses the child is the custodial parent. I've seen nothing to indicate that K lived with PF and KB only had her on weekends (or similar). My husband has a son from a previous relationship, he lived with us. When formal child custody was addressed, his ex got some limited visitation and had to pay child support (not a lot, his income was greater than hers-but he was the custodial parent).
I mention this because I've seen a post or two questioning why PF's mother doesn't have custody now as a primary caregiver. Providing daycare doesn't = custodial parent. I live in Colorado, so I did become familiar with this aspect of family law. From what I read, seems PF was the daycare. moo
That would be frightening.
Now that I think about it, LE were in the open, and PF could have reacted badly.
Lucky PF had not left recently, perhaps on the floor of another car, driven by a friend.
With the thorough search of Kelsey's home, he surely must have been worried.
So this outcome, to arrest PF has run smoothly, thank goodness.
MOO.
But he didn’t see anything amiss? Which is interesting.And Kelsey's brother, who immediately went to check Kelsey's home, when CB contacted LE.
And, IMO, Shanann helped solve her own murder because of that open book.