CO CO - Kelsey Berreth, 29, Woodland Park, Teller County, 22 Nov 2018 - #19 *ARREST*

[KBB87]

An attempted robbery!? So it doesn’t sound like he did the actual killing... an accomplice tried to stage a robbery and killed her??

I am so confused by that tweet. Why would she be missing? It makes no sense. A robbery gone wrong or staged robbery gone wrong would have had a body.

 

[SandyQLS]

1. Jenna Middaugh‏Verified account @JennaMiddaugh 1m1 minute ago
   BREAKING: Patrick Frazee is facing five charges. 2 first-degree murder charges and 3 solicitation to commit murder charges. According to court documents, Frazee asked one or more people to commit murder & through the course of an attempted robbery Kelsey Berreth died @KKTV11News

Attempted robbery?

1st degree murder is basically premeditated, deliberated and intentional. Felony murder is when someone other than a participant dies during the course of some other crime like robbery. It does not speak well of their theory of the crime that they cannot pick one?

Boulder Felony Murder Lawyer | Colorado Murder Attorney

"... First degree murder is “with intent and after deliberation” taking the life of another. Although we don’t call it premeditation, that is what it is somewhat akin to. The theory being is that prior to taking the others person’s life one must have the intent to kill and deliberate on that intent. ....

...Felony murder is a separate category of murder and does not have the same mens rea as the types of murder that were discussed above. ...Felony murder is when, during the commission of certain, enumerated crimes, (Aggravated robbery, burglary, arson, kidnapping) a person is killed. The person charged with felony murder does not have to participate or even know that the killing is about to occur. It is also irrelevant whether or not the person charged with felony murder wanted to actually commit the murder. ..."

more at link^

Felony murder rule (Colorado) - Wikipedia

"... In the state of Colorado, the common law felony murder rule has been codified in Colorado Revised Statutes § 18-3-102. The statuteclassifies a homicide as first degree murder when committed during one of these predicate felonies:
• Committing or attempting to commit arson, robbery, burglary, kidnapping, sexual assault, or a class 3 felony sexual assault on a child
• Or if in the course of one of these crimes or the immediate escape from it, anyone causes the death of a person other than one of the participants..."

 

[Warwick7]

BREAKING: Patrick Frazee is facing five charges. 2 first-degree murder charges and 3 solicitation to commit murder charges. According to court documents, Frazee asked one or more people to commit murder & through the course of an attempted robbery Kelsey Berreth died
@KKTV11News

Ok.....so supposedly KB texted from Idaho..... Yet there is supposedly died from an "attempted" robbery at her home.

So confused now.....

 

[jaspermac]

I think all I can say is “google”, you’ll find some things that can’t yet be discussed here. MOO

What the heck? he really did think he was smarter than everyone else. But if it was set up as an attempted robbery why did it look like nothing was stolen or removed when the brother went there? Since when do "robbers" attempt to cover up the scene? Having trouble buying this, is it only coming from one reporter?

 

[Ilovemy3boys]

Lance Benzel on Twitter
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Highpoints of #Frazee hrg in #Kelsey Berreth case: 1. Frazee charged w/ 5 counts, including 1st deg murder and solicitation 2. Judge denies defense bid for gag order 3. Prosecutors ask for "consumptive testing" of unspecified evidence. Motion to be heard Friday.
@csgazette

 

[Warwick7]

An attempted robbery!? So it doesn’t sound like he did the actual killing... an accomplice tried to stage a robbery and killed her??

But what's the point if she "supposedly" texted from Idaho...?

 

[bestill]

@lancebenzel
Highpoints of #Frazee hrg in #Kelsey Berreth case: 1. Frazee charged w/ 5 counts, including 1st deg murder and solicitation 2. Judge denies defense bid for gag order 3. Prosecutors ask for "consumptive testing" of unspecified evidence. Motion to be heard Friday.@csgazette

 

[KBB87]

It’s really too bad we can’t watch. The reporting on this case has been horrible so who knows if we’ll get the correct information.

Wish I could like this a million times. We’re relying on people who have gotten basic facts wrong about this case in the past.

Will we be getting to see the actual documents or just these people’s versions of what they heard in court? Can’t wait for all the news to conflict lol

 

[Seattle1]

Fiance appears in court in missing Colorado mom case

Today Show video at link

 

[missy1974]

I am a bit behind in all of this, but 2 first degree murder charges is confusing when there is only 1 death. How are they allowed to charge him like that?

 

[Penny4YourThoughts]

I don't think his other interest was the motive. Rejection by KB and sole custody of baby K most likely.

SusiQ knows her ! If narc label fits PF, and Kelsey rejected him, his motive may be as simple as NARCISSISTIC INJURY. (Read up if curious folks).

 

[Ilovemy3boys]

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[Gardener1850]

Lance Benzel on Twitter
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Highpoints of #Frazee hrg in #Kelsey Berreth case: 1. Frazee charged w/ 5 counts, including 1st deg murder and solicitation 2. Judge denies defense bid for gag order 3. Prosecutors ask for "consumptive testing" of unspecified evidence. Motion to be heard Friday.
@csgazette

Interesting... Consumptive testing: Consumptive Forensic DNA Testing •

 

[Emi]

Clayton Sandell on Twitter
Clayton Sandell‏Verified account @Clayton_Sandell 3m3 minutes ago
Patrick Frazee being led out of a Cripple Creek, CO courtroom this morning. He’s accused of murdering his fiancée #KelseyBerreth, last seen Thanksgiving Day. Formal charges expected filed today. @abc @gma


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[PommyMommy]

Video at the link: Matt Kroschel on Twitter
ALERT: #PatrickFrazee remains silent as he leaves the courtroom- another motions hearing set for Friday Jan 4th 1:30pm All details in case remain sealed, even from defense as massive, multi state investigation continues. No formal charges filed here today... @CBSDenver

 

[bestill]

Consumptive Forensic DNA Testing •
Explains the dna testing

 

[Sixcats1]

Possibly she had evidence of something he had done wrong. In the process of trying to rob her of that evidence, she died.

 

[Warwick7]

Lance Benzel on Twitter
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Highpoints of #Frazee hrg in #Kelsey Berreth case: 1. Frazee charged w/ 5 counts, including 1st deg murder and solicitation 2. Judge denies defense bid for gag order 3. Prosecutors ask for "consumptive testing" of unspecified evidence. Motion to be heard Friday.
@csgazette

"consumptive testing"
Consumptive Forensic DNA Testing •

 

[bestill]

Possibly she had evidence of something he had done wrong. In the process of trying to rob her of that evidence, she died.

Maybe it was evidence he was trying to have her killed. IMO

 

[Ilovemy3boys]

Lance Benzel on Twitter

Consumptive testing means the item will be destroyed in process. Authorities did not disclose nature of evidence. #Frazee #KelseyBerreth
@csgazette