CO CO - Kelsey Berreth, 29, Woodland Park, Teller County, 22 Nov 2018 - #26 *ARREST*

[Marli61]

I don't know if the family calls it a ranchette, but it is the proper term for a small ranch.

ranchette
noun
ranch·ette | \ˌranˈchet\
plural -s
Definition of ranchette

: a small ranch

Definition of RANCHETTE

Thanks Pommy! The following isn't directed towards you but in general.

IMO I can almost guarantee the F family does not refer to it as a ranchette. It is simply their ranch headquarters. They keep their cattle elsewhere. Imo

 

[LAHOLLA]

Does the F family call their home a “ranchette”? Or is this a WS dig at what is a small ranch/large farm? I am not familiar but it sounds snide to me?

Also...had not heard that his father died a few months back. That often has a huge impact on people, not always in a healthy way. I have known adults who fell apart completely...my parents died six months apart and that about did me in, though not murderously so. But life altering to be sure and in my case, caused to kind of tip me into a sort of depression/isolation that it took years to emerge from.

It’s definitely a profound experience. My dad and I have never been close but he’s just been admitted to inpatient hospice and it’s got my emotions all over the map.

Not homicidal though...

 

[NoeticSoul]

Not sure why we should hope this body is not hers...she needs to be found?

TRUE. I guess I just don't want it to be and misspoke/typed, it's all so sad either way

 

[retiredrickyinCO]

Does the F family call their home a “ranchette”? Or is this a WS dig at what is a small ranch/large farm? I am not familiar but it sounds snide to me?

Also...had not heard that his father died a few months back. That often has a huge impact on people, not always in a healthy way. I have known adults who fell apart completely...my parents died six months apart and that about did me in, though not murderously so. But life altering to be sure and in my case, caused to kind of tip me into a sort of depression/isolation that it took years to emerge from.

It is not a dig at all and is a common term as @PommyMommy and @MassGuy pointed out. It is very common here in CO for ranches 60-80 acres or less.

ranchette (plural ranchettes) A small ranch or large home lot, often on the outskirts of a major metropolitan area and just past the planned neighborhoods, consisting of 40 acres and a house and possibly a barn or other outbuildings.
ranchette - Wiktionary

 

[GHgal]

Does the F family call their home a “ranchette”? Or is this a WS dig at what is a small ranch/large farm? I am not familiar but it sounds snide to me?

Also...had not heard that his father died a few months back. That often has a huge impact on people, not always in a healthy way. I have known adults who fell apart completely...my parents died six months apart and that about did me in, though not murderously so. But life altering to be sure and in my case, caused to kind of tip me into a sort of depression/isolation that it took years to emerge from.

Guessing it’s a funny dig ! Like the “McMansion” I was told I live in... both hilarious, and made me laugh ...

 

[Love Never Fails]

It’s definitely a profound experience. My dad and I have never been close but he’s just been admitted to inpatient hospice and it’s got my emotions all over the map.

Not homicidal though...

So very sorry about your dad. Whether you are close or not, it is still a hard thing to go through.

 

[LAHOLLA]

So very sorry about your dad. Whether you are close or not, it is still a hard thing to go through.

Thank you <3

 

[MsBetsy]

It’s definitely a profound experience. My dad and I have never been close but he’s just been admitted to inpatient hospice and it’s got my emotions all over the map.

Not homicidal though...

I'm so very sorry. I have been through it, as have many I'm sure. Reach out to friends, that's what got me through it.

 

[Peppermint Patty]

I have to admit, I do hope they have found her and if not, they do soon. I hope for closure for her family and also more solid forensic evidence.

 

[keminoak]

Forgive me if this is a dumb question or if it's been answered somewhere and I've missed it, but will PF have the same attorney, then, for the criminal AND civil trials?

No, he can't have a public defender for a civil case. He will need to hire a lawyer or represent himself.

 

[Love Never Fails]

It is not a dig at all and is a common term as @PommyMommy and @MassGuy pointed out. It is very common here in CO for ranches 60-80 acres or less.

ranchette (plural ranchettes) A small ranch or large home lot, often on the outskirts of a major metropolitan area and just past the planned neighborhoods, consisting of 40 acres and a house and possibly a barn or other outbuildings.
ranchette - Wiktionary

Can I just say if I owned 35 acres, I would feel it was huge! I would love to own a ranchette. Wouldn’t hurt my feelings one bit for someone to call it whatever they wished. And 35 acres in CO would be fabulous! If only...

 

[BRRI]

I have to admit, I do hope they have found her and if not, they do soon. I hope for closure for her family and also more solid forensic evidence.

Same

I can't imagine them disposing of her in this way though, for some reason. I keep thinking 2 months is a long time to plan... although, maybe it's really not. Maybe 2 months isn't long at all to build a "perfect" plan.

 

[Jessthinkin]

Not sure why we should hope this body is not hers...she needs to be found?

You're right, of course... This is horrible any way you look at it, but my gut rxn to it perhaps being KB found there was just a sick feeling at it being such a trashy, abandoned place.... although, I guess I wouldn't really feel any better if she'd been left in a beautiful valley, either... it really is horrible any way you look at it...

 

[BRRI]

Can I just say if I owned 35 acres, I would feel it was huge! I would love to own a ranchette. Wouldn’t hurt my feelings one bit for someone to call it whatever they wished. And 35 acres in CO would be fabulous! If only...

35 acres would be overwhelming for alot of people. Like me.

 

[Concernedmamaof3]

Same

I can't imagine them disposing of her in this way though, for some reason. I keep thinking 2 months is a long time to plan... although, maybe it's really not. Maybe 2 months isn't long at all to build a "perfect" plan.

I also think things went wrong. So far the “plan” seems like 3-4 plans spliced together. Robbery, her missing after leaving on a trip, but cars still at her house, etc. MOO

 

[makayla]

Retired Ricky, I am so impressed with your drone footage!

Thank you for doing this for us!

 

[Love Never Fails]

You're right, of course... This is horrible any way you look at it, but my gut rxn to it perhaps being KB found there was just a sick feeling at it being such a trashy, abandoned place.... although, I guess I wouldn't really feel any better if she'd been left in a beautiful valley, either... it really is horrible any way you look at it...

I don’t think there would be much of a body after two months, the vultures and general decay would have destroyed it. I just assume someone dumped a body there recently. So sad.

 

[gliving]

"AGUILAR, Colo. - The Las Animas County Sheriff's Office and the Colorado Bureau of Investigation are investigating human remains that were found near the town of Aguilar on Sunday.

Deputies responded to the call of remains discovered in the area near an abandoned truck stop at exit 34 on Interstate 25 just after 3:00 p.m.

The coroner will work to identify the remains and determine the cause of death."

CBI inevstigates human remains found near Aguilar

The CBI is involved.

 

[Peppermint Patty]

Same

I can't imagine them disposing of her in this way though, for some reason. I keep thinking 2 months is a long time to plan... although, maybe it's really not. Maybe 2 months isn't long at all to build a "perfect" plan.

Yes, 2 months is a long time to plan. However, amateurs are most likely involved. So, once the deed is done. They scramble to dispose of the main evidence. Sadly, KB.

 

[NanZDrew]

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I wondered that as well. But I did notice early on with the drone footage that his horse trailer was much larger than his red Toyota could pull. So, the most recent drone footage does show from ricky, sorry can't remember your full user name, on his property there is a white Ford full sized truck with a flat bed trailer (water tank on it). And I think I had read in one of the MSM articles regarding the day at the dump, he was driving a white truck. So, yes I believe you are correct. He has his red Toyota. But do we know he actually owns the other vehicles? Could be in his mom's name as well as the other vehicles. We don't really know. It seems LE was only focused on taking the red Toyota.

Yes, @retiredrickyinCO pano shows a white flatbed truck (or maybe Western hauler) with a gooseneck trailer attached. He can pull just about anything with this truck. I was interested in whether this was a water tank or a septic tank (although this might be too big). Could it be a septic tank to replace whatever was in that big hole? Or do people bring these in to capture extra water, maybe for the livestock.