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Agreed.It all depends on the way they interpreted a ping I think. Cellular tower ping or IP ping. An IP would ping off of a server.
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Agreed.It all depends on the way they interpreted a ping I think. Cellular tower ping or IP ping. An IP would ping off of a server.
Yes! I really liked it when he said, "that's a good question. We would really like to know that too." They said some variation of that several times.The first press conference is such an excellent example of LE using the media as a tool. The undercurrent was exactly as you stated, LE hands are tied, meaning they had strong suspicions but not probable cause. Then the media engaged their unspoken role, to hound the identified target. I am so pleased they are executing a SW at the property.
Yes, I would really like to think it was accurate. What would help is if they can track PF to that area on that day. Or at least his not being able to account for his whereabouts on that day.Keep in mind the phone ping was in Idaho where her mothers lives, and on the way to relatives in Washington.
Not Nevada, Arizona, or Iowa. It’s specific location greatly reduces the chance of a false ping.
Who had Kelsey ‘a phone in Idaho. I wait.
<modsnip - discussing other posters>My problem with this is some aren't merely throwing it out there, they are stating it as fact. <modsnip - discussing other posters>
ITA. It was intentional placement to buy more time to cover the evidence. JMOKeep in mind the phone ping was in Idaho where her mothers lives, and on the way to relatives in Washington.
Not Nevada, Arizona, or Iowa. It’s specific location greatly reduces the chance of a false ping.
Who had Kelsey ‘a phone in Idaho. I wait.
This is a factor in why I hold out other possibilities as well.Keep in mind the phone ping was in Idaho where her mothers lives, and on the way to relatives in Washington.
Not Nevada, Arizona, or Iowa. It’s specific location greatly reduces the chance of a false ping.
Who had Kelsey ‘a phone in Idaho. I wait.
Yes, I'm still hoping someone can give an explanation for "false pings" and other discrepancies regarding that kind of data, as well as its accuracy. I have become very curious about that.
There was a poster or two who was able to explain how all that works in the Mollie Tibbetts case but I can't remember all that technical stuff for the life of me.
I think for legal reasons it would best to have the Verizon spokesperson to clarify. I only know enough to say they know their stuff. How they know is far beyond my understanding.You should ask him how a "false ping" can occur. I asked about it earlier but we need some tech people to share their knowledge.
Yes, Pueblo, where she is a flight instructor is about 2 hours south of Denver. I was just there, beautiful little city. As you say, not unusual to make that drive, it is an easy one straight down 25 south.KB had a 70 mile one way commute to work. Not unusual to have a family vehicle, and another for commuting. I do.
I agree!<modsnip - discussing other posters>
And I fully agree that no suspicion or outcome should be stated as fact. To me, internally, we all probably assign a weight to the possibilities out there based on the amount of information we have at the given moment.
For me, I am at about 75% leaning toward fiancé being involved due to statistics and difficult to explain behavior etc.
I’m about 20% in on the idea it could be a third party that we don’t know about yet, bc Idaho is a long way to go to ping, there’s no sign of struggle or contradictory surveillance footage released at this time, and even some relatives have said “it’s a long story” or asked truckers on the road to keep their eyes open for Kelsey.
I’m willing to leave 5% to the idea that this is an independently motivated disappearance that could be explained by any number of things including—hypothetically—accident, mental stress, substance abuse, another relationship etc. I could think of very minuscule reasons why I don’t rule these out, but assign them only a very low percentage due to the lack of details that make these likely.
What about you all? What kind of percentages do you assign to the different possibilities?
Because her mother and LE continue to refer to PF as the fiance and there is a sealed search warrant ordering the search of the fiance's property. JMO
Now this that you mention is interesting to me. Maybe the ping was a false in reverse. I still am not convinced that Kelsey left her town. I think she is there, somewhere.I found an article when we were back on page 1 that talked about a glitch that occurred a few years ago, where the cell phone company recorded the data from the incoming, rather than the outgoing phone whenever the call went to voice mail. Unfortunately, I can't find it now. Otherwise, I don't know how a "false ping" could occur, but I personally don't want to rule it out just yet.
ETA: found it; it was an AT&T glitch.
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I'm at 50%, 25% and 25%. The 50% is only because of the three day warranted search of the property. Do they know something or is this harrassment?<modsnip discussing other posters>
And I fully agree that no suspicion or outcome should be stated as fact. To me, internally, we all probably assign a weight to the possibilities out there based on the amount of information we have at the given moment.
For me, I am at about 75% leaning toward fiancé being involved due to statistics and difficult to explain behavior etc.
I’m about 20% in on the idea it could be a third party that we don’t know about yet, bc Idaho is a long way to go to ping, there’s no sign of struggle or contradictory surveillance footage released at this time, and even some relatives have said “it’s a long story” or asked truckers on the road to keep their eyes open for Kelsey.
I’m willing to leave 5% to the idea that this is an independently motivated disappearance that could be explained by any number of things including—hypothetically—accident, mental stress, substance abuse, another relationship etc. I could think of very minuscule reasons why I don’t rule these out, but assign them only a very low percentage due to the lack of details that make these likely.
What about you all? What kind of percentages do you assign to the different possibilities?