Deceased/Not Found CO - Kelsey Berreth, 29, Woodland Park, Teller County, 22 Nov 2018 - #54 *ARREST*

[steeltowngirl]

Ha! I’ll be interested to see if the defense goes with the strategy of not only pointing the finger at KK, but also admitting that PF committed a crime (accessory after the fact).

Something like she did it, but he knew about it and covered it up.

Of course that won’t work, but it’s more plausible than saying she did it and he was completely unaware.

Trying to completely sever his involvement doesn’t seem like the smart play.

There’s just way too much there.

That might be their strategy, and could explain why he felt “railroaded”. KK told the details and negotiated a plea deal to avoid full prosecution for accessory after the fact. He just didn’t think of it first and may use that idea.

There is also a possibility he will point at the unknown male DNA in the apartment, which IMO is a weak argument since it could simply be a repairman’s DNA, for all we know. I do recall reading something about Kelsey had dinner with someone the week before. PF might go with she was seeing someone else, it was him - or even say she had an unknown stalker.

He is going to have to come up with something. Because as you and others have pointed out, if he uses KK as the alternate suspect, the prosecution will have evidence that she was nowhere near KB that day. And they have all kinds of evidence that places PF right there at the right time, with motive and a witness confession.

 

[steeltowngirl]

Looking forward to seeing these in 3 hours....

 

[PommyMommy]

4th Judicial DA on Twitter
Motions Hearing for Patrick Frazee is set for 9 this morning in Div. 11 in Teller County. #2018CR330
6:41 AM - 23 Aug 2019

Sam Kraemer on Twitter
Yes, I’ll be there
6:55 AM - 23 Aug 2019

Brynn Carman KRDO on Twitter
Stay with @DaniFriedKRDO this morning for live updates from inside the courtroom for this hearing. Patrick Frazee is accused of killing his fiance, Kelsey Berreth.
7:08 AM - 23 Aug 2019

 

[Gardener1850]

Patrick Frazee, the rancher accused in the murder of his fiancee, #KelseyBerreth of Woodland Park, is due to return to court today. (via @lancebenzel)

5:32 AM - 23 Aug 2019
The Gazette on Twitter

 

[Gardener1850]

KOAA News5‏Verified account @KOAA 12m12 minutes ago

Patrick Frazee is scheduled to appear in court at 9 a.m. this morning for a motions hearing. Follow @KOAA and @SamKraemerTV for continuous updates throughout the day.

KOAA News5 on Twitter

 

[PommyMommy]

AUG 23, 2019
Patrick Frazee to appear in court for motions hearing

• The motions hearing is expected to take much of the day.
• Prosecutors filed a motion to require the defense to endorse an alternate suspect defense "if he intends to present such evidence at trial."
• The hearing will also cover logistical details surrounding jury selection. Prosecutors asked for a jury pool of 250 people, while the defense asked for a pool of 300 people.
• The defense also asked for a total of 80 to 90 people for the final stage of jury selection, and the prosecution proposed 70-80 potential jurors.
• Both prosecutors and the defense agreed to having four alternate jurors.
• The defense wants to suppress statements PF made to an employee with DHS at the Teller County Jail five days after his arrest. The defense said the woman asked him questions, and they want those statements thrown out.
• PF faces eight total counts, including two counts of first-degree murder.
• PF's trial is currently scheduled to begin on Oct. 28.

 

[GordianKnot]

Looking forward to seeing these in 3 hours....

Ha! I know just what you mean.
Well, obviously.

Oh, no.
I just realized something...
The DA plans to have a pc after the hearing today to explain his decision not to pursue the death penalty.
I was all geared up for a lively debate afterward, and now we won't be able to debrief here after the pc since the site is going to be down.
Rats!

On the upside and apropos of nothing, PSLs are back at DD...I'm tossing one back right now.
Silver linings.

JMO.

 

[PommyMommy]

Ha! I know just what you mean.
Well, obviously.

Oh, no.
I just realized something...
The DA plans to have a pc after the hearing today to explain his decision not to pursue the death penalty.
I was all geared up for a lively debate here afterward, and now we won't be able to since the site is going to be down.
Rats!

On the upside and apropos of nothing, PSLs are back at DD...I'm tossing one back right now.
Silver linings.

JMO.

Love the new avatar, GK.

 

[GordianKnot]

Love the new avatar, GK.

Thanks, Pommy!
I had help w/ it from my administrative assistant/guy Friday type person, who shall here remain nameless.

Has PF arrived at the courthouse yet, anybody know?
Did the judge impose that ridiculous, "Stay off the sidewalk!" ban on the press again today?
I really do think the regulation of public sidewalks probably falls well outside of the judge's purview.

I've been doing a little research online, and I do anticipate that whatever PF said to the DHS worker will be ruled inadmissible by this judge. The defense is likely going to win that motion to suppress whatever idiotic statements came out of PF's mouth when he spoke to her back in December.

Which is fine, actually. Whatever he said to the DHS lady is likely tangential to the case, anyhow.
PF's said and done so many damnable things already that the DA's cake has already been slathered in icing.
And there are so many cherries on top of it, it's pretty much a cherry cake at this point.

JMO.

 

[PommyMommy]

Thanks, Pommy!

I had help w/ it from my administrative assistant, who shall here remain nameless, but whose initials are MG.

Has PF arrived at the courthouse yet, anybody know?
Did the judge impose that ridiculous, "Stay off the sidewalk!" ban on the press again today?
I really do think the regulation of public sidewalks probably falls well outside of his purview.

I've been doing a little research online, and I do anticipate that whatever PF said to the DHS worker will be ruled inadmissible by this judge. The defense is likely going to win that motion to suppress whatever idiotic statements came out of PF's mouth when he spoke to her back in December.

Which is fine, actually. Whatever he said to the DHS lady is likely tangential to the case, anyhow.

PF's said and done so many damnable things already that the DA's cake has already been slathered in icing.

JMO.

I haven't seen his arrival but the media is waiting for him. Sidewalk is closed.

Agree with you on the motion. MOO

Ashley Franco on Twitter
I’m in Cripple Creek for #PatrickFrazee. There’s a motions hearing for several motions. I’ll be live tweeting from the courtroom. Hearing starts at 9. @KKTV11News #KelseyBerreth

8:03 AM - 23 Aug 2019

 

[Only4Justice]

AUG 23, 2019
Patrick Frazee to appear in court for motions hearing

• The motions hearing is expected to take much of the day.
• Prosecutors filed a motion to require the defense to endorse an alternate suspect defense "if he intends to present such evidence at trial."
• The hearing will also cover logistical details surrounding jury selection. Prosecutors asked for a jury pool of 250 people, while the defense asked for a pool of 300 people.
• The defense also asked for a total of 80 to 90 people for the final stage of jury selection, and the prosecution proposed 70-80 potential jurors.
• Both prosecutors and the defense agreed to having four alternate jurors.
• The defense wants to suppress statements PF made to an employee with DHS at the Teller County Jail five days after his arrest. The defense said the woman asked him questions, and they want those statements thrown out.
• PF faces eight total counts, including two counts of first-degree murder.
• PF's trial is currently scheduled to begin on Oct. 28.

BBM. Do we know what he said?

 

[PommyMommy]

BBM. Do we know what he said?

Nope. Not yet, anyway. MOO

 

[GordianKnot]

I haven't seen his arrival but the media is waiting for him. Sidewalk is closed.

Agree with you on the motion. MOO

Ashley Franco on Twitter
I’m in Cripple Creek for #PatrickFrazee. There’s a motions hearing for several motions. I’ll be live tweeting from the courtroom. Hearing starts at 9. @KKTV11News #KelseyBerreth

8:03 AM - 23 Aug 2019

Haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa.
Pommy, you win Best Avatar of the Year!
Hands, I mean, paws-down.
Love it.

Good grief, though. That sidewalk issue.
I seriously question the legality of closing off a public sidewalk off like that.
Why is the judge treating PF like some kind of A-list celeb at a movie premiere?
I'm half-expecting to see a red carpet being rolled out when he pulls up.

 

[PommyMommy]

Since the site is going to be down today during this motions hearing, I'm taking note of all the Twitter's to follow since we all won't be together for it.

Here's another one, dixiegirl.

Chris Koeberl on Twitter
In Teller County court waiting for Patrick Frazee motions hearing...
8:35 AM - 23 Aug 2019

I'm not sure if Stephanie is in the courtroom or not...

Stephanie (Butzer) Rose on Twitter
#PatrickFrazee is scheduled to appear in Teller County court this morning for a motions hearing. The hearing is expected to cover a variety of topics about his upcoming trial in late October. http://bit.ly/2L7ldFE

8:37 AM - 23 Aug 2019

 

[PommyMommy]

Sam Kraemer on Twitter
Alright, we’re inside. Both teams of attorneys are here, as is Sheila Frazee (Patrick’s mother). DA Dan May is not here, at least yet. They’re convening in the judge’s chambers. #KelseyBerreth #PatrickFrazee #KrystalKenney @KOAA
8:50 AM - 23 Aug 2019

Sam Kraemer on Twitter
And DA Dan May has entered the courtroom. I don’t see any member of the Berreth family here today (at least that I know of). @KOAA #KelseyBerreth #PatrickFrazee #KrystalKenney
8:53 AM - 23 Aug 2019

Drum roll...

 

[GordianKnot]

Sam Kraemer on Twitter
Alright, we’re inside. Both teams of attorneys are here, as is Sheila Frazee (Patrick’s mother). DA Dan May is not here, at least yet. They’re convening in the judge’s chambers. #KelseyBerreth #PatrickFrazee #KrystalKenney @KOAA
8:50 AM - 23 Aug 2019

Sam Kraemer on Twitter
And DA Dan May has entered the courtroom. I don’t see any member of the Berreth family here today (at least that I know of). @KOAA #KelseyBerreth #PatrickFrazee #KrystalKenney
8:53 AM - 23 Aug 2019

Drum roll...

Somebody please tweet Sam and ask him if Dan May is wearing his infamous brown suit again.
He definitely seems to favor that brown suit for courtroom appearances.
Somebody must have told him he's a Fall on the fashion color wheel, or something.

Also, hoping Sam will confirm whether or not PF is sporting his pink bracelets.

 

[gsleuth]

Maybe not stupid..according to this.

''Klismet believes Kenney's story about leaving clues for investigators to find at the crime scene. Despite being allegedly solicited to murder Kelsey Berreth multiple times, Kenney said she could never go through with it. He says in Kenney's mind, her only way out was to leave a trail of breadcrumbs.

"I've got to give her credit for the things she did, I'm going to say, to make it easy for them to collect evidence," Klismet said. ''
Former FBI profiler discusses Patrick Frazee's murder charge

Yes, I think PF did try to pull her in purposely, in hopes of scapegoating her if necessary.

Sending the victim's cell phone back with her is one big example. Why would she agree to do that? Stupid, stupid move on her part.

...he is such a toxic arse hole.

 

[PommyMommy]

Dani Fried on Twitter
Good morning everyone. Please make sure to follow this feed as we will be live tweeted throughout today’s motions hearing. #patrickfrazee is entering the courtroom
8:56 AM - 23 Aug 2019

Ashley Franco on Twitter
Both sides are in the courtroom. #PatrickFrazee was just escorted in as well. They'll be discussing a number of motions including choosing a jury and the possibility of an alternative suspect @KKTV11News
8:57 AM - 23 Aug 2019

Sam Kraemer on Twitter
Patrick Frazee has entered the courtroom wearing ballistic vest & handcuffs. A Teller County deputy removed the cuffs. He has the typical green-striped inmate jumpsuit on with crocs. We’re underway @KOAA #KelseyBerreth #PatrickFrazee #KrystalKenney
8:58 AM - 23 Aug 2019

 

[PommyMommy]

Sam Kraemer on Twitter
We’re starting with the motion to suppress the interview Frazee did with a Teller County DHS employee. Teller County Sgt. Roger Sandefur has taken the stand to provide testimony. @KOAA #KelseyBerreth #PatrickFrazee #KrystalKenney
8:59 AM - 23 Aug 2019

Ashley Franco on Twitter
They're discussing the motion to suppress. Sgt. Roger Sandefur with Teller County Sheriffs office is testify right now. He works for the inmate transport team for the county. @KKTV11News #PatrickFrazee #KelseyBerreth
9:00 AM - 23 Aug 2019

Sam Kraemer on Twitter
Beth Reed is question Sgt. Sandefur on the Teller County Jail. Reed asks about a “TV room” inside the jail. Sandefur says it’s used for court video advisements, among other things. He says it is not a cell. @KOAA #KelseyBerreth #PatrickFrazee #KrystalKenney
9:01 AM - 23 Aug 2019

 

[PommyMommy]

Dani Fried on Twitter
This area is not a cell. In this room there is a large television and video equipment, a phone and a few chairs. Inmates at the jail are not housed in this room. #patrickfrazee
9:01 AM - 23 Aug 2019

Sam Kraemer on Twitter
Sandefur is asked to described the room’s interior. He says it has a TV, chairs, other furniture. He says no inmates are housed in there. Reed asks if inmates can reject a visit at the jail. Sandefur says yes. #KelseyBerreth #PatrickFrazee #KrystalKenney @KOAA
9:02 AM - 23 Aug 2019

Dani Fried on Twitter
Regarding policies, if someone scheduled a visit with the inmate the inmate can refuse a visit (this includes lawyers and personal visitors). If they refuse, the deputy could leave the inmate in the housing area and tell the visitor that person will not be coming. #patrickfrazee
9:02 AM - 23 Aug 2019