Deceased/Not Found CO - Kelsey Berreth, 29, Woodland Park, Teller County, 22 Nov 2018 - #55 *ARREST*

[MyBelle]

Yes. And I think the exact same thing is going to happen in this case.

The alternative suspect in the McStay trial was Dan Kavanaugh, who had an alibi, that he was in Hawaii with his girlfriend when the McStays were killed.

Much of the trial then involved the defense trying to destroy that alibi. They had warrants for DK's cell records and his bank records. And records of his airline ticket purchases showing he was in Hawaii for 2 weeks. And they suggested he may have snuck home in the middle of that vacation, secretly, and committed the quadruple murders.

I think a similar thing will happen here. The defense will say there is no solid proof that KB had thanksgiving dinner with her family and the State will have to bring in witnesses to show that she did.

And it will be up to the judge to determine how far off track he will allow them all to venture.

I think the defense will attack the evidence and lack thereof beyond what KK has claimed. The burden of proof is on the prosecution.
JMO

 

[Dave F.]

This is Sam’s response to someone who tweeted an article that read “Alternate Suspect Named In Kelsey Berreth Case.”

It isn't true (they've updated the article), but this is a confusing matter, especially when neither of the legal teams will comment on it. We'll have an explaining story on this tonight

Sam Kraemer on Twitter

Updated article is at the link. Best report on this subject so far, IMO.
Attorney explains Frazee's planned defense for murder trial

 

[gregjrichards]

REVEALED: Patrick Frazee will accuse mistress Krystal Lee of murder and victim Kelsey Berreth of abusing their daughter Kaylee at trial, state court documents

Patrick Frazee will accuse mistress Krystal Lee of murder | Daily Mail Online

You can view the court documents at the link above. I’m not at all surprised by this news I expected it as I’m sure most of you did too. I think it is disgusting though and that he will die in prison after getting LWOP.

 

[MassGuy]

REVEALED: Patrick Frazee will accuse mistress Krystal Lee of murder and victim Kelsey Berreth of abusing their daughter Kaylee at trial, state court documents

Patrick Frazee will accuse mistress Krystal Lee of murder | Daily Mail Online

You can view the court documents at the link above. I’m not at all surprised by this news I expected it as I’m sure most of you did too. I think it is disgusting though and that he will die in prison after getting LWOP.

Once I saw that headline, I already knew who was going to be in the byline.

Fricken Chris Spargo.

I hope against hope that one day he wakes up, looks in the mirror, and has an epiphany:

“I’m a useless hack, and have no business writing so much as a diary, let alone publishing news stories for others to read.”

Then I fantasize that he moves to Alaska, and lives with Grizzly Bears, like Timothy Treadwell did.

With the exact same predictable result.

 

[MemPat]

If only Dominic Dunne was still around to write a few more books!

A new book from Dunne or Ann Rule would be so great right now!

 

[MassGuy]

A new book from Dunne or Ann Rule would be so great right now!

Let me get my shovel!

 

[MemPat]

Once I saw that headline, I already knew who was going to be in the byline.

Fricken Chris Spargo.

I hope against hope that one day he wakes up, looks in the mirror, and has an epiphany:

“I’m a useless hack, and have no business writing so much as a diary, let alone publishing news stories for others to read.”

Then I fantasize that he moves to Alaska, and lives with Grizzly Bears, like Timothy Treadwell did.

With the exact same predictable result.

I refuse to open the Daily Mail any more to see if it's Spargo.

The other "reporters" (ha!) are just as bad.

You can't even trust them to have the headline match the facts in the story.

Garbage for clicks.

 

[Sweetsbeach]

Once I saw that headline, I already knew who was going to be in the byline.

Fricken Chris Spargo.

I hope against hope that one day he wakes up, looks in the mirror, and has an epiphany:

“I’m a useless hack, and have no business writing so much as a diary, let alone publishing news stories for others to read.”

Then I fantasize that he moves to Alaska, and lives with Grizzly Bears, like Timothy Treadwell did.

With the exact same predictable result.

Wow, tell us how you really feel, lol. It's wild because I just read about Timothy Treadwell for the first time a couple of days ago...Not a fun way to go.
But yeah, I won't even click a Daily Mail link for fear it's written by Spargo.

 

[Seattle1]

Rob McCallum‏ @rwmccallum
People v. Frazee: The defense filed its endorsement of defenses and witnesses on 9/17 #KelseyBerreth https://www.courts.state.co.us/userfiles/file/Court_Probation/04th_Judicial_District/Teller/caseofinterest/2018CR330/Endorsement%20of%20Defenses%20and%20Witnesses%20PD.pdf …

10:19 AM - 18 Sep 2019

 

[Seattle1]

Sam Kraemer‏ @SamKraemerTV
Here's our full story on Patrick Frazee's planned defense. We did our best to explain this complex situation, as both prosecutors & the defense won't discuss it (at least yet).

Attorney explains Frazee's planned defense for murder trial

9:31 PM - 18 Sep 2019

 

[Seattle1]

Attorney explains Frazee's planned defense for murder trial

Sept 18, 2019

While his lawyers did not file a motion to blame the murder on someone else as a defense, they do plan to use an alternate suspect to spark the idea of reasonable doubt.

Through his attorney Adam Stiegerwald, Frazee outlined his planned defenses and witnesses in a court document released Wednesday . They plan to use the 'general denial' defense, requiring the state prove Frazee is guilty beyond a reasonable doubt.

[...]

"It is anticipated that as part and parcel to general denial, there may be evidence that other individuals committed or fabricated portions of the crimes alleged against Mr. Frazee, to include Krystal Lee (Kenney)...," the document read.

[...]

Stephen Longo, attorney and founder of the Longo Firm, said that's not only an easier method for the attorneys, but it also shows they have their sights set on disputing Krystal Kenney's story. A former mistress of Frazee and an Idaho native, Kenney already reached a plea deal for her role in the crime in exchange for her testimony against Frazee.

"You're going to keep that scope as wide as you can. But we can also, in this document, read into it that where they're really putting a lot of their efforts in is going to be attacking the prosecution's star witness, Krystal Lee (Kenney)," Longo said.

[...]

"They want to tear down her credibility as much as possible, and what better way to do that then say she's more involved in this crime then she's going to say, and that gives her the motivation to fabricate what the defendant Patrick Frazee did," Longo said.

Through law enforcement testimony, Kenney did lie to police about her relationship with Frazee before eventually agreeing to an interview with police.

 

[steeltowngirl]

So what does this all mean?

PF’s defense won’t have to build a wall of evidence that KK actually murdered KB. If they were going that route, they would have had to file a motion formally naming her as the alternate suspect.

Instead, they will strongly allude to her as a possible alternate suspect, in order to cast reasonable doubt that PF is the actual killer.

Is my understanding correct?

 

[PommyMommy]

If KK is named as the alternate suspect, can she still be a witness? How does that work?

Or maybe they are just going to produce evidence showing that she and others lied about certain details to discredit her and show that she was more involved than she claimed?
Rather than directly accuse her?
I really don't understand it but it sounds like it could get very messy. Imo

Yes, she will testify and the defense will try to discredit her testimony to create reasonable doubt. Not unexpected. MOO

 

[MsBetsy]

Yes, she will testify and the defense will try to discredit her testimony to create reasonable doubt. Not unexpected, really. MOO

Yes, thanks, I just saw that they are not using the "alternate suspect" as the defense, but instead are "alluding" to it to create reasonable doubt.
There was some confusion about that for awhile.
This could get complicated. I doubt KK told the truth about everything.
I wonder what will happen if they can prove she lied about something major, like getting rid of the body.
If she knows what he did with the body, or helped dispose of the ashes or something like that, I wonder what happens to her deal. Imo

 

[303gmf]

On a new note, I wonder where KK will stay to be "available" for weeks throughout if necessary... With her aunt, driving back and forth? With Ma F? At a motel with an entourage to shield her from media? Is there a motel next to Sonic or one with a restaurant and room service? Should be quite the trial and busy in Teller County, make your hotel and courtroom seat reservations now. Be sure to ask about the hotel's cancellation policy just in case--not that I think PF would make a deal but who knows what is coming next...

Maybe hearing aids one can turn up or an amplifier would help as well as the acoustics are not great I hear...

Jmo.

She can rent a hotel room in Cripple Creek, when boredom sets in gambling and night life available to keep Krystal entertained or the Cline’s maybe extended an invite?

 

[MsBetsy]

So what does this all mean?

PF’s defense won’t have to build a wall of evidence that KK actually murdered KB. If they were going that route, they would have had to file a motion formally naming her as the alternate suspect.

Instead, they will strongly allude to her as a possible alternate suspect, in order to cast reasonable doubt that PF is the actual killer.

Is my understanding correct?

That's how I understand it.
They can suggest that she played a role in "parts" of the crime, disputing that part of the story as she described it, showing that she is not credible. I suspect they will challenge every detail that they can. Imo

 

[imstilla.grandma]

In court documents made public on Wednesday, Frazee’s attorneys presents Lee as an alternative suspect in the disappearance and murder of Berreth.

“It is anticipated that as part and parcel to general denial, there may be evidence that other individuals committed or fabricated portions of the crimes alleged against Mr. Frazee, to include Krystal Lee,” it reads.
Colorado man accused of beating his fiancée dead with a bat points finger at nurse ex-girlfriend for the 2018 murder

 

[distracted]

I was convinced the trial would be delayed, but now I’m not so sure.

His next appearance is October 18th, and we’ll know by then at the latest, if things are on track or not.

This latest filing doesn’t appear to push anything back, but I’m still waiting to hear a more detailed analysis of what this means.

We’ll see.

I'd be really, really surprised if there isn't a delay. Look for trial in January or February after the holidays, IMO.

I'd like to add that as disappointing as this may be, the prosecution is going to need the time to prepare. I can't think of a more horrific result than Frazee walking because the prosecution didn't take the time to do it right. Well, I take that back...it would be more horrific if they both walked.

ETA: And if he does walk, he takes the baby with him. Nope, I'll wait as long as it takes to nail this monster to the wall.

 

[ilovechili]

I'd be really, really surprised if there isn't a delay. Look for trial in January or February after the holidays, IMO.

I'd like to add that as disappointing as this may be, the prosecution is going to need the time to prepare. I can't think of a more horrific result than Frazee walking because the prosecution didn't take the time to do it right. Well, I take that back...it would be more horrific if they both walked.

ETA: And if he does walk, he takes the baby with him. Nope, I'll wait as long as it takes to nail this monster to the wall.

I agree on the likelihood of a delay, however, the prosecution should have well known this was coming and this witness would be subjected to serious cross examination on the stand.

Jmo.

 

[ilovechili]

She can rent a hotel room in Cripple Creek, when boredom sets in gambling and night life available to keep Krystal entertained or the Cline’s maybe extended an invite?

Lol true. That casino and night life might result in that media she is trying to avoid though. I hope a few reporters follow her like paparazzi climbing trees, sneaking through back gardens, etc. to get a shot Oh and there is always drone footage but then we know she will probably seclude herself and likely head to Vegas shortly after trial...

Jmo.