CO CO - Kelsey Berreth, 29, Woodland Park, Teller County, 22 Nov 2018 - #9

[alexwood]

I thought the sheriff said he was cooperating?
Cooperating does not mean press conferences or reporting to sluethers times and dates of such cooperation.

A heartfelt plea, before the media, would go a long way towards showing that he truly wants KB to be found!

 

[Gunslinging Granny]

Maybe there were two welfare checks by Woodland Park PD? One on Nov 25th and another when the brother came to check her duplex on Dec 2nd. ?

 

[alexwood]

Does PF own any pets? All I have seen are ranch animals, working animals.

Just guessing, but I'd say: "No." The concept of a pet is probably foreign (IMO) to him.

 

[Hatfield]

Both. He’s made things worse from a PR perspective, that’s pretty clear.

Obviously, as you say, he has greater concerns than that, as his freedom is on the line.

But his initial behavior couldn’t have helped him in regards to scrutiny by law enforcement either.

When your partner is missing, you are invariably the initial focus.

When your partner is missing and you never reported her missing, you are in for a world of hurt.

You’d better have a plausible explanation for your actions.

If he does, law enforcement clearly isn’t buying it.

JMO
I agree.

I also want to add something that I have come to realize with these cases. And Im not being cold or uncaring here but.....

When bad things happen to people that disrupts their lives and sometimes makes LE question them or tear their house apart, well, Im sorry but it is what it is. LE has a job to do and if its your bad luck that your close SO goes missing then you need to expect your life is going to be disrupted. Same as if a Tornado hit your house. Its never good and your life will be disrupted.

Once I began to realize this I have come to expect that things are going to be disrupted for awhile for the people close to a victim. There is no way to avoid it and we have to realize it can and will happen. Peoples actions in how they react to those disruptions can sometimes give us a sign. Sometimes not.

 

[Hopefullyhelpful]

Okay, sorry for the interruption in flow here....but....what is

BBM
MOO
AP

 

[MassGuy]

I don't know that they are protecting anyone (though it is possible). I think that police officers, like the rest of us, want to solve the case as quickly and easily as possible. They want the spotlight and pressure off of them. They want to go back to a normal routine and spend time with their families for the holidays. In other words, I wouldn't accuse the police of having a malicious intent, but they can get lazy and latch on to the wrong theory of what happened, and then everything they look for after that is viewed with the idea of confirming the initial conclusion. We all do that. But PF has more on the line than anyone else.

I think about Michael Morton and Cameron Todd Willingham at times like this.

Don’t get me wrong, that type of thing has precedent.

But this isn’t a case of a small town police department feeling the pressure to nail their man.

They’ve got the CBI and FBI with them, and the eyes of the county watching.

There’s pressure, but I don’t get the feeling that they are focused on him at the exclusion of other scenarios.

It took them a while to even declare her disappearance as suspicious.

This doesn’t feel rushed.

 

[Cardinal47]

A heartfelt plea, before the media, would go a long way towards showing that he truly wants KB to be found!

I'm not so sure of that. History tells us that those appearing before the microphone sometimes take a huge beating by the public and sm.
Kind of a damned if you do and dammed if you don't.
Just because some are calling for PF to make a public appearance it appears his attorney does not think that wise.

 

[Bill Carson]

When your partner is missing and you never reported her missing, you are in for a world of hurt.

You’d better have a plausible explanation for your actions.

If he does, law enforcement clearly isn’t buying it.

SBM

I agree. It looked like police did buy his story early on (whatever that was). Or they may have been playing rope-a-dope.

 

[PommyMommy]

Pommy can you confirm this as well? I thought I had read that CB called PF on the 25th, but I was unable to find a decent timeline anywhere. Not casting shadows on your post Granny, just want to be absolutely sure.

I don't have one that states that (not that I doubt it exists!). It's not my understanding of the way things transpired.
MOO

 

[Denvergirl]

New press release from a Woodland Park PD.

Only place I see it is on their fb page, don’t know if that’s ok to share?

Said they are making “steady progress on multiple investigate leads...”

 

[MassGuy]

New press release from a Woodland Park PD.

Only place I see it is on their fb page, don’t know if that’s ok to share?

Said they are making “steady progress on multiple investigate leads...”

It’s always ok to share their posts.

 

[Cardinal47]

I don't know that they are protecting anyone (though it is possible). I think that police officers, like the rest of us, want to solve the case as quickly and easily as possible. They want the spotlight and pressure off of them. They want to go back to a normal routine and spend time with their families for the holidays. In other words, I wouldn't accuse the police of having a malicious intent, but they can get lazy and latch on to the wrong theory of what happened, and then everything they look for after that is viewed with the idea of confirming the initial conclusion. We all do that. But PF has more on the line than anyone else.

I think about Michael Morton and Cameron Todd Willingham at times like this.

Yes and the Innocence Project.
My concern is that they have stopped their investigation with only PF. Why?

This is surely different than all the other missing women cases. Why aren't they searching for HER instead of chasing only HIM?

His attorney has given them everything and his property has been searched for two days. His truck taken.

Isn't it time to move on and look for Kelsey?

 

[MyBelle]

Thank you for finding this. It was discussed repeatedly on the thread #1 that there was a welfare check on Nov 25.

The media has had direct access to the CBI's Public Information Officer since this case began and they have reported the Nov. 25 welfare check. They also accurately noted the missing person report was filed Dec. 2. LE has never said the Nov. 25 call didn't happen.

Police said the flight school where she worked as a pilot got a text message from her on November 25 saying she would miss the next week of work. Berreth's mother called police for a welfare check as well, but she wasn't at her home.

Woodland Park Police Chief Miles DeYoung confirmed Berreth's phone was last pinged by a cell tower near Gooding, Idaho, which is a rural town about 100 miles southeast of Boise and hundreds of miles from where she was last seen, that same day.

Berreth was officially reported missing on December 2 by her mother, police said.

MYSTERY TEXT: Search intensifies for missing mom

 

[v0x]

Okay, sorry for the interruption in flow here....but....what is

BBM
MOO
AP

See here for acronyms:
Websleuths Lingo

 

[Jennifer17]

I'm not so sure of that. History tells us that those appearing before the microphone sometimes take a huge beating by the public and sm.
Kind of a damned if you do and dammed if you don't.
Just because some are calling for PF to make a public appearance it appears his attorney does not think that wise.

Too late for that now.

 

[MassGuy]

I'm not so sure of that. History tells us that those appearing before the microphone sometimes take a huge beating by the public and sm.
Kind of a damned if you do and dammed if you don't.
Just because some are calling for PF to make a public appearance it appears his attorney does not think that wise.

Yes. This I can wrap my head around.

It’s what he did initially though, that is the most telling.

And damning.

 

[cluciano63]

Could they have gone back to search an area or for an item not covered on original warrant?

 

[1wonderleads2another]

Maybe there were two welfare checks by Woodland Park PD? One on Nov 25th and another when the brother came to check her duplex on Dec 2nd. ?

Welfare checks are meant to help people who may not be able summon help for themselves (ie super ill , broke a leg , child being kept from school etc) this why , at least in my state, until the person is located the officers keep stopping by. A week between welfare checks could have unfortunate results. MOO (based on experience with welfare checks)

 

[Lady Justice21]

I just read something from another member that shoots a hole in one of my theories.

Do we know whether PF and CB had a telephone conversation on 11/25?

If CB was able to call PF and talk with him then that means it isn't possible that his phone was sitting powered off or unattended in Colorado while he traveled to Idaho to "create a ping". Put differently if CB was able to call PF then it creates an alibi for PF that he was located wherever the call records say he was at the time the call was made.

Awesome thought! It may not be putting a hole in your theory, it may be why the police were able to get that warrant. Whether it was a text or call, it would make his phone ping wherever he was. While he's my top theory, LE ruling him in or out, finding KB, and justice are what matters!

All MOO

 

[MyBelle]

I just read something from another member that shoots a hole in one of my theories.

Do we know whether PF and CB had a telephone conversation on 11/25?

If CB was able to call PF and talk with him then that means it isn't possible that his phone was sitting powered off or unattended in Colorado while he traveled to Idaho to "create a ping". Put differently if CB was able to call PF then it creates an alibi for PF that he was located wherever the call records say he was at the time the call was made.

I believe CB called for the welfare check on Nov. 25th because she could not reach PF. I think the only time they spoke was Dec. 2.