CO - Shanann Watts (34), Celeste"Cece" (3) and Bella (4), Frederick, 13 Aug 2018 *Arrest* #8

[Amonet]

Another reason the workplace might have seemed reasonable and logical to CW is that 1) he can point LE to his phone GPS and say, "look I didn't go anywhere today except to work!" and 2) if he goes back to work he can keep an eye on those areas, and all he's doing is being at work, not going anywhere suspicious to check if the bodies are still well-hidden, which could stand out if LE started following him if they suspected him.

I don't think he picked the workplace as a last ditch idea, I think to him it seemed like a very logical choice. It's also a cold choice if you think you're going back to work in a few days, when the fuss has died down and everyone accepts that your wife has left you (which I think was probably his hope) that you are going to be working around those tanks and know what's happening inside them, that your babies bodies are decomposing in there and that those tanks are holding the secret that only you know: that you murdered your babies!

 

[Jennifer17]

I 100% agree with you especially that he killed the girls after the party. I could see them getting home from the party and Cece driving him nuts and he had just had it...perhaps her murder was an accident. I definately think he killed Cece first, in his interviews he said called her rampage and said she was a terror always yelling and destroying things like her mother, would not be surprised at all if the autopsy shows not only strangulation but blunt force trauma (specifically for Cece) my intuition tells me she was the first to go...IMO he found killing easy, and enjoyed it and decided well heck I can do this to the rest of them too, then he killed Bella and he waited for Shanann to come home then killed her too. I don't think he was enraged though, I think he was oddly calm and calculated about it all. This man is a sicko. IMO he enjoyed every part of it, and he is going to make a terrible witness. Unemphatic, Unapologetic, Unemotional, devoid of any human emotion and lacking a sensitivity chip. I don't think he felt like he was in control of anything in his life and resented his family and decided to take the power back so to speak. Personally, I suspect CW will ever see the light of day again.

I think that he will be very emotional in court. This is about him. He won't have to act a part, he is worried about his fate.

 

[Davia18]

Another reason the workplace might have seemed reasonable and logical to CW is that 1) he can point LE to his phone GPS and say, "look I didn't go anywhere today except to work!" and 2) if he goes back to work he can keep an eye on those areas, and all he's doing is being at work, not going anywhere suspicious to check if the bodies are still well-hidden, which could stand out if LE started following him if they suspected him.

I don't think he picked the workplace as a last ditch idea, I think to him it seemed like a very logical choice. It's also a cold choice if you think you're going back to work in a few days, when the fuss has died down and everyone accepts that your wife has left you (which I think was probably his hope) that you are going to be working around those tanks and know what's happening inside them, that your babies bodies are decomposing in there and that those tanks are holding the secret that only you know: that you murdered your babies!

I like your way of thinking, you could be right.

 

[katydid23]

https://www.facebook.com/ShanannWatts?hc_ref=ARROMzF2mbcGxMzuAWG6cGecJfbu2xVvMk9OnRW-Y9fbhRDoFfQvXjr30xx-qJwXyOc&__xts__[0]=68.ARDYXPVxG6f3f_Ovlmfwg_p3pNI6ZjyLEqhOtCrNMUE-Tx4eM8fxjJxUa6UpmW2fFigbHxMciRIRQ-fuHEN9M9rSZrQY3sbmkT3dO-ubdBRb4oubuZWTqMwRGyTe3OSbOTT-cX0&__tn__=lCH-R

 

[MerryB]

NU certainly felt something was dreadfully wrong when she couldn't get an answer to her phone calls. Shanann may have told NU if anything happens to me ........etc

NU stated that SW was not feeling well in AZ & had an episode of low blood sugar. I believe she was afraid SW may have passed out inside the house.

 

[Lore Listener]

Ugh, this case, so so heartbreaking.

I also believe many of her posts praising and building up CW are a sign she was , at the least, emotionally abused. Those posts feel gaslit to me.

She was grasping, he probably told her he was the provider , controlled everything, etc.
He may have blamed her for financial issues.

Idk, I just get a weird vibe that he was gaslighting her for years.

Her dad and her brother absolutely shattered me in court. Pure and raw grieving.
ESPECIALLY because CW is victimizing SW over and over by accusing her.

So much YES to all of this!

 

[ethoma12002]

I wonder how that poster knew the sheet "flew out" of his truck....and in an unusual location at that. Did LE release that info? I didn't hear it in CW's interview. Was that reported in MSM? That sheet is causing us some confusion. Please explain.

Sorry - I meant that someone "thought" it flew out and CW was unaware. I was just agreeing that that is a likely scenario.

 

[smucklecrumble]

I think CW thought he was being smart by dumping them at his workplace. I think he thought he would either hear or know if they were discovered/also be able to monitor it. When he was no longer in control of the situation he ‘hoped they were someplace safe’ since he couldn’t keep tabs anymore. He wasn’t concerned about leaving the house as he thought he was smart enough to monitor the home on the ring app and send away anyone enquiring. He probably wasn’t expecting NA to be so tenacious about wanting to know about SW. He also overestimated his own ability to keep control of the situation and had likely convinced himself that he can still get out of all this hence his ‘it needs to stop comment’.

I also think CW erred in his judgement that because he didn’t care about SW no one else in CO would care either. I’m sure the TV presence and media shocked him and certainly the involvement of Cbi and FBI. JMO

 

[MerryB]

It's all about the money. That's where I'm at right now with CW. Sadly.

As per @MerryB & @cattlekate 's detailed posts about this. As in, he cannot afford a divorce but he wants out.

Like minds, @cottonweaver @cattlekate

 

[Bill Carson]

https://www.facebook.com/ShanannWatts?hc_ref=ARROMzF2mbcGxMzuAWG6cGecJfbu2xVvMk9OnRW-Y9fbhRDoFfQvXjr30xx-qJwXyOc&__xts__[0]=68.ARDYXPVxG6f3f_Ovlmfwg_p3pNI6ZjyLEqhOtCrNMUE-Tx4eM8fxjJxUa6UpmW2fFigbHxMciRIRQ-fuHEN9M9rSZrQY3sbmkT3dO-ubdBRb4oubuZWTqMwRGyTe3OSbOTT-cX0&__tn__=lCH-R

That pic makes me think of the possibility of 'roid rage.

 

[ThaiBali]

No one really knows who took the photo only that SW posted it and I am not sure what the caption said verbatim, something about should I be worried or is this an indication of what is to come...It is beyond weird.

I did see on one of SW's SM sites that CW posted it to her when she was in AZ. Her response was "I don't know what to make of this".

 

[Chelly]

Plus she has lupus and fibromyalgia and is in her first trimester (I threw up all the time in my first trimester and was miserable) and she was travelling and on a delayed flight in a airtube filled of germs (IE Airplane)...I am certain she felt like poo and was exhausted. I highly doubt she was in the mood to kill her kids because her jackhole of a hubby has been throwing his peep around town. JMO.

Absolutely, she had to have been exhausted from the work sessions, the travel, the flight delay and 2 a.m. arrival at home. Most likely, she barely dragged herself through the door. She was a weak target for the waiting predator.

 

[medea13]

No one really knows who took the photo only that SW posted it and I am not sure what the caption said verbatim, something about should I be worried or is this an indication of what is to come...It is beyond weird...

I would love to see the caption too. I remember seeing it RIGHT after they were missing and I pulled up SW's Facebook. I swear there was a comment by SW a few comments down - after someone said 'dead body?' ....that said something to the effect of 'neither of the girls will admit they did it so at least we know they have each others backs'.....wondering now if neither of the girls DID do it.

 

[MrsWatson]

That pic makes me think of the possibility of 'roid rage.

Compared to pics from a year/18 months or so ago, it's quite a transformation. Nice haircut as well, nicely trimmed beard (looks to be professionally done). The shirt makes want to puke, though, and I have no opinion whatsoever of the Steelers.

 

[ethoma12002]

When I was about 8 or 9, my mom told me that her uncle had died. I laughed. I knew it was inappropriate but it was like when you laugh in response to being tickled, I wanted it to stop and I was absolutely horrified...I was saying "sorry". It wasn't normal smiling or happy laughter.

I'm so grateful it never happened again because it was awful and extremely embarrassing. I was, and still am, mortified that my brain/body reacted in that way.

I am vaguely aware that it can happen, but I don't think I've ever heard anyone else say it's happened to them. Can I ask if you have that same "Oh my god I don't know why I'm laughing, I'm sorry" clearly embarrassed reaction along with the laughing/hysterics?

From my experience of that happening to me, CW smiling in that video was nothing like that sort of reaction.

I don't know how much of CW's smiles in the video were genuine happiness or duper's delight, he wasn't imho grinning like a Cheshire Cat a la Peterson. I got the feeling that most of the smile moments were more overacting the part of "nothing to be worried about here, I'm innocent, guv". I found the smiling, like a lot of his words, to be indicative of deception...because he was acting. Then there was the part where he talked about his t-shirt, and his body language completely relaxed and he talked about Shanann getting him those t-shirts...and he seemed a bit like, "hmm she won't be buying me these t-shirts any more...sighs, I do like the t-shirts".

Amonet - I absolutely feel terrible after I do that. I'm 35 and still do it! It's just almost an I-don't-know-what-to-say laughter. However, I've never had anyone really close to me die so I've always been sheltered regarding death. Maybe that has something to do with it.

 

[Bill Carson]

I did see on one of SW's SM sites that CW posted it to her when she was in AZ. Her response was "I don't know what to make of this".

So CW took the pic from Colorado and sent it to her, then she reposted it? An ominous warning of what was to come.

 

[Chelly]

I think that he will be very emotional in court. This is about him. He won't have to act a part, he is worried about his fate.

He is absolutely worried about his fate. In GenPop, he is a perfect target. Prison inmates loath child killers, (especially if they are your own children). Add to that, his appearance. He is bait and prison life will not go easy on him.

 

[Deleted member 229213]

It's all about the money. That's where I'm at right now with CW. Sadly.

As per @MerryB & @cattlekate 's detailed posts about this. As in, he cannot afford a divorce but he wants out.

There is not a reason ever to murder for money, I know some people may not agree, but from a spiritual stand point, money and possessions are never a reason to harm anyone (we shouldn't be killing and harming anyone anyway let alone for material things and money)...and not being able to afford a divorce is not an excuse. CW is a coward and a p*ssy. Hope he likes his snazzy orange romper.

 

[Jennifer17]

So CW took the pic from Colorado and sent it to her, then she reposted it? An ominous warning of what was to come.

I can't work that out.

 

[NuttMegg]

Have you all discussed this cryptic paragraph from PEOPLE a couple of days sgo? Its from 21 august.

Chris Watts Allegedly Changed Story Several Times Before Being Charged with Murder of Wife, Daughters

Causes of death have not been released for Shanann, Bella or Celeste. But filings from prosecutors and the defense suggest at least some of them were strangled and that a “weapon” — possibly a gun — was involved.