Found Deceased CO - Shanann Watts (34), Celeste"Cece" (3) and Bella (4), Frederick, 13 Aug 2018 *CW GUILTY* #55

[mickey2942]

He'll no doubt miss his spiffy shirts and steak dinners.
Prison food is not the finest and I'm sure his clothing will be scratchy!

Lice is inevitable in prison, scabies, bed bugs, no matter how much you clean. I worked at a prison, and after bringing lice home, started going to a gym after work, changed clothes, took a shower before going home, and dumped the clothes straight in the washer.

CW is gonna love it there. Especially when they wash all the clothes together, and he gets some that are really nasty back. And shower shoes don't stop athletes foot.

He may be in protective custody, but people will still bully him, mess with him. He deserves every single miserable moment.

 

[AbbyG]

CW had everything -- everything. SO many people in this world would drop to their knees in gratitude to have what he had -- a beautiful, intelligent, fun wife who adored him and appreciated him; two adoring and adorable healthy children with another on the way; parents and a sister who loved him unconditionally; in-laws who embraced him as their own. He had so much family, so much love, so much loneliness in the world but he had abundance. He murdered the ones who loved him so why? For some young woman he had known for a matter of WEEKS? No one can make sense of this. How can he make sense of it, even to himself? Does he understand that even if he cannot feel genuine remorse or sadness for anyone other than himself, he is a failed human being? Does he feel sadness that he cannot feel sadness for his own children? Despicable.

 

[nwmouse]

Lice is inevitable in prison, scabies, bed bugs, no matter how much you clean. I worked at a prison, and after bringing lice home, started going to a gym after work, changed clothes, took a shower before going home, and dumped the clothes straight in the washer.

CW is gonna love it there. Especially when they wash all the clothes together, and he gets some that are really nasty back. And shower shoes don't stop athletes foot.

He may be in protective custody, but people will still bully him, mess with him. He deserves every single miserable moment.

 

[kjpaw]

If this were the case, it would seem she would have scratched his arms...but he had no obvious wounds?

A choke from behind renders people unconscious very quickly.

The way I imagine it, her hands were probably tucked up under the blankets, to where he could block them by pinning the blankets down with his knees and legs. Not only was she fighting his strength, but her arms and hands were trapped under the blankets. He had a huge advantage over her, and by the time she could have possibly gotten free, the blood flow to her brain would have been severely restricted enough that she quickly faded out of consciousness... So freaking evil. It's tearing me apart, I have this very clear image in my head of how this happened and it terrifies me, thinking of how vulnerable I am, we all are, when we are in that same position Shanann was.

The way I imagine it, her hands were probably tucked up under the blankets, to where he could block them by pinning the blankets down with his knees and legs. Not only was she fighting his strength, but her arms and hands were trapped under the blankets. He had a huge advantage over her, and by the time she could have possibly gotten free, the blood flow to her brain would have been severely restricted enough that she quickly faded out of consciousness... So freaking evil. It's tearing me apart, I have this very clear image in my head of how this happened and it terrifies me, thinking of how vulnerable I am, we all are, when we are in that same position Shanann was.

His lack of injuries and her intact hyoid make me think he strangled her from behind. I posted above but there is a very well known choke hold that anyone who watches mma knows that could restrict oxygen and kill a person in much shorter time than manual strangulation by choking someone from the front. I think her autopsy injuries, bruising from under chin to temporal area, fit with this as well although that’s just my opinion. It’s all so very sad however it happened.

 

[cailleach]

Why didn't his sister show? Has this been discussed?

IMO, after what she posted about SW post-death she should have been, frankly, ashamed to show her face. MOO

 

[PommyMommy]

Anyone able to get the Podcast yet?

I have it up but can't get it to load. MOO

 

[Gardenista]

Anyone able to get the Podcast yet?

Mine says waiting for host to call in

 

[esayer]

Anyone able to get the Podcast yet?

not yet!

 

[AbbyG]

I think you're right - Occam's Razor.
It was just so creepy to see a doll that was almost corpselike in the house of a family annihilator.

I actually am of the opinion that it was a sick little move of CW's. Didn't HE send the photo or am I mistaken? I put nothing past him though. MOO.

 

[Nessa131]

I have it up but can't get it to load. MOO

Me either.

 

[lisan3902]

If I could talk to Shanann, Bella, CeCe and Nico I would tell them how very sorry that they suffered in their last moments alive at the hands of a selfish and cowardly man. I did not know any of you personally but I have thought of little else since the news broke. It brings me comfort to know that you are in the presence of God where there is no more suffering. Today justice was served and the man who betrayed you so heinously will pay for his crimes each moment of every day for the rest of his life. Your deaths will not be in vain. I truly believe that some good will come from this through Nico's law and to serve as a reminder to cherish each day and live each day to the fullest. You seemed to do just that. Your light and the light of your children will never diminish. May you now rest in peace.

 

[cailleach]

Yes, all of that. Another wonderful little family gone, and her parents who were unknowing for most of that time, were powerless to help out their Sha'nann. And now nothing will bring her back.
But in this case, the scheming, selfish, stupid murderer of four was caught quickly and is now serving many lifetimes plus, plus, plus.
Her family members have each other to love and to share memories. He will have no one. And in a while -- months or years after this day, the person he will probably hate most is himself.

I find him incapable of the proper emotions. His tears today were because he is having to take responsibility for his murderous acts. The jig was up when the autopsies came back and proved his fake scenario of seeing her choking them nothing but another self-serving lie.

 

[margarita25]

Saying a prayer of gratitude and burning some sage. Gratitude that there was not a long drawn out horrible victim bashing trial and as said today not “being bound to the criminal justice system for the next several decades” (Rourke). I don’t know how these families would have been able to handle it..

 

[LittleFleurDeLys]

CW had everything -- everything. SO many people in this world would drop to their knees in gratitude to have what he had -- a beautiful, intelligent, fun wife who adored him and appreciated him; two adoring and adorable healthy children with another on the way; parents and a sister who loved him unconditionally; in-laws who embraced him as their own. He had so much family, so much love, so much loneliness in the world but he had abundance. He murdered the ones who loved him so why? For some young woman he had known for a matter of WEEKS? No one can make sense of this. How can he make sense of it, even to himself? Does he understand that even if he cannot feel genuine remorse or sadness for anyone other than himself, he is a failed human being? Does he feel sadness that he cannot feel sadness for his own children? Despicable.

I still believe, that the only "sadness" he feels, is that his life is over! And yes, he had so much, other people would much appreciate. But it meant just nothing to him, because he took it probably as granted or it was secretly never what he was really looking for. And in the end it was nothing more than a burden. Two adorable little girls who adored him and a wife who fought for their marriage. What a strain!

 

[liltexans]

Anyone able to get the Podcast yet?

Hi everyone, @Tricia and @Levi are working on getting the podcast up and running. They are experiencing some technical difficulties at the moment. Thank you for your patience!

 

[nwmouse]

I actually am of the opinion that it was a sick little move of CW's. Didn't HE send the photo or am I mistaken? I put nothing past him though. MOO.

I thought he took the photo.

 

[Solstice Canyon]

Now that CW has admitted to murdering his family in cold blood, I wonder what the significance is of that photo of the doll draped in the white sheet laying on the couch.

Was that some kind of Freudian slip on CW's part?
An omen?
I cannot get it out of my head.
Anyone have any theories about it?

moo

Yes... since you asked.

I see already that the opinions of others differ from mine. However, I have always considered it to be significant. I took it to be a threat, and instinctively perceived it as such. To me it was nothing less than a warning. A foreshadowing of what was (unfortunately, very soon) to come.

I think some of it was playing out on SM and because of this, it was being purposely glossed over or minimized with comments such as “at least they did this together,” etc. however, I believe that was “covering” for the benefit of others.

I think the person for whom the threat was intended knew full well to be frightened & intimidated by it. And in retrospect, rightfully so.

It was less a “warning,” perhaps, than a promise.

A promise which was regrettably kept.

 

[borndem]

The way I imagine it, her hands were probably tucked up under the blankets, to where he could block them by pinning the blankets down with his knees and legs. Not only was she fighting his strength, but her arms and hands were trapped under the blankets. He had a huge advantage over her, and by the time she could have possibly gotten free, the blood flow to her brain would have been severely restricted enough that she quickly faded out of consciousness... So freaking evil. It's tearing me apart, I have this very clear image in my head of how this happened and it terrifies me, thinking of how vulnerable I am, we all are, when we are in that same position Shanann was.

bbm
That's just what I saw in my mind, too -- his pinning her down, her arms under the bedclothes and his knees on top. And he had the strength of determination and adrenaline to help. He was ready for the battle -- she was not. She quickly became helpless and was lost.

He has not yet had to face the fear that Shanann did that night.

Not yet.

 

[Whiteorchids]

He’ll work soon and make maybe 80 cents per day.

And he'll be fed much better hot meals in prison then the peanut butter jelly or bologna sandwich he gets everyday in a jail. That's why many inmates take plea deals in long drawn out cases to immediately go to prison where theres more freedom, classes, jobs, basketball and meals. He will get yard time eventually and quarterly packages where he can order Tv's, mp3 radios all kinds of food goodies etc which he couldn't have in jail. His forgiving loving parents and women will keep his commisary account topped off. A percentage taken off money provided on his jpay account will go towards restitution. I think Chris Watts will manage just fine in prison like Scott Peterson and other murderers. They will house him with similar level 4 killers like him unfortunately he will have deputy escorts most of the time for his protection. I wish deputies would hand him over to inmates that are Fathers to little girls then watch the coward get what he deserves

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[Thinker Belle]

I just had an unsettling thought. It definitely seems obvious now that this was premeditated and CW planned to murder his family. This makes me wonder how he treated those girls during the weekend that SW was on her trip. Did he care for them as normal? Feed and interact with them as nothing was unusual despite the impending doom lurking in the atmosphere? I hope and pray with every fiber in my being those precious girls did not doubt they were loved and safe for as long as possible during the last days of their short little lives. It just adds to the trauma of their heinous murders to think of them being neglected or tormented in anyway while their Mommy was away in addition to the obvious torment during the murders. Considering the vicious way that scum of the earth “man” snuffed out his own flesh and blood, I wouldn’t be shocked by anything. I hope I’m wrong and this is just a bad thought rearing it’s ugly head on this emotional day.

Rest in Heaven Shannan, Bella, Celeste and Nico. I’m so sorry. You all deserved so much better.