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Can someone post a link to the autopsy reports please?
Can someone post a link to the autopsy reports please?
i watched the 20/20 episode last night What really got me was he was on surveillance video buying a breakfast roll at a convenience store right after disposing of the bodies. How sickening.
He changed 360 degrees since SW married him like his soul was hijacked by a demon.
another thought, was it the new baby that he wanted at first and now didn't want push him over the edge?
Thank you as always PommyMommy! In reading this again, it's sickening how much damage was done to little Bella.
I've heard a lot about injuries to her left buttocks as a result of how he dumped her into the tank, but she sustained many more injuries during that horrific process it seems.
Sorry for the words running together, that's how it copied from the report.
He put a lot of effort into dumping Bella into that tank. Horrific. jmo BBM from the autopsy report:
- A13x3cmareaofverticalexcoriationsontheleftbuttocks
- An at least 1.5 cm laceration of the frenulum and upper gumline
with associated pink-purple contusions
- Superficial probable bite wounds of the mucosal surface of the
tongue
- A9xupto4cmyellow-tanpossibleabrasiononthelefttorso
- A3x1.5cmfaintyellow-tandiscolorationonthesuperioraspect
of the left shoulder
I'm not really sure what LE have to abide by in criminal cases actually, when interviewing witnesses?
And does it vary by state?
Yeah, IMO if he strangled his wife front on she would of most likely fought back, and possibly her hyoid bone would of been fractured as happens in a lot of strangulation crimes. That's why i think she was sleeping on her side and he killed her in her sleep, because of the lack of defensive wounds. Anyway that's JMO.
So NK brought up in the recent police interview that was released that she saw CW was using double the recommended amount of Thrive. He always wore two patches instead of 1. He had plateaued as far as weight loss and that's when he asked for her advice on diet. She said she wasn't sure if he doubled up on the other supplements as well. She said it was like he never wanted to sleep and he wore her out. He began working out a lot. He also had sex with NK 3-4 times a day. He lost 13 lbs in 2 weeks I think she said. It makes me wonder if he experienced caffeine induced mania.
Now I am not blaming Thrive.
Any form of caffeine can be abused such as energy drinks or caffeine pills. It is up to consumers to use caffeine in moderation and be responsible. There are disorders and addictions related to caffeine. Certain studies claim caffeine abuse can exacerbate underlying mental illnesses.
Here is one of the studies: Manic Episode Following Ingestion of Caffeine Pills: A Case Report
A combination of the euphoria brought on by his affair, the stress from his mother meddling in his life constantly, underlying conditions such as borderline personality disorder maybe, and caffeine abuse may have led him to be reckless enough and crazy enough to actually plan this and carry it out IMO. We even saw that he crashed at the police station and could hardly stay awake.
I hope I don't create offense with this subject. It was just something that caught my attention. I don't think it would have provided any kind of defense in court. It might explain the shift in those 6 weeks in addition to NK.
Poor baby girl.
So you think her activity was still be monitored by LE and they were collecting her searches from "the cloud" after she turned in her phone?
I suppose it is possible, but that is really disturbing, if true. She wasn't a suspect and should have been free to look up news about the murders on Sept 1, 2018 without that search going into the discovery packet. I'm unsure of the relevance of a Sept 1, 2018 search as it would be natural for her to seek out news at that point. Why would they have that in the timeline? JMO.
I do believe that Shannan taught Bella the song My Daddy is a Hero. She was probably always pumping him up. I was in a marriage like this. Never enough.
The girls were probably afraid of him and he resented them being so attached to their Mommy.
IMO
Mad/rage in the sense he was in a relationship and a family he no longer wanted. I feel that rage oriented not from personal dislike of his wife or children but because he met someone else that he wanted more and he saw them as the reasons he could not have what he wanted. I firmly believe if his AF person had not “taken his breath away” their marriage would have plodded along as usual. He told LE he fell out of love with Shanann because he fell in love with her. I find it hard to reconcile if he was so full of personal dislike for Shanann that he never told her about the affair. The neighbor said he heard them arguing, Chris would go crazy so he was not meek.
MOO
The pregnancy could have been the straw that broke the camel's back (so to speak): we have seen it so many times before (Scott Peterson comes to mind): How many women have been murdered because their partner simply did not want another baby--- it is of course more complex than that in most cases, but that seems to be a big factor in many of these murders of pregnant women.
I think Nicole's calling the police so quickly thwarted his plan. Nicole deserves some kind of award for her heroism in this case. if not for her he would have had more time and his plan could have worked.
My suggestion is: direct quotes from MSM/discovery docs are fine (assuming they can be linked from an approved source), general discussion of an incident related to a nut allergy is okay, and speculation about this causing a rift/catalyst within the family is okay. What I would suggest steering clear of are things like debating if it was nuts or ice cream, who was or wasn't allergic, how severe the allergy might have been, what parents should or shouldn't know or do in relation to nut allergies.Could we have clarity on the last item on your list please. This was a major turning point and could have been a catalyst for what CW did. His father blocked him on facebook after that incident. It's in discovery and it's in MSM.
Can we have clarification as to why it is off limits please, because a rift between CW and his own family is massive. His dad was his hero - he said this to investigators and Shanann said that to Addy too (it's in her phone conversation with the investigators). He may have chosen his relationship with his father over Shanann and his children. His family didn't celebrate Cece's birthday because of it, and CW didn't even think his father could facetime with the girls because they would tell Shanann. Shanann had every right to have his family blocked from seeing the children after that which would feature in any custody arrangement going forward.
Then why was it documented at all? I thought it was just the year that was a typo. So if they were not monitering her phone I guess there is no reason to wonder why she made the search. That's what I was replying to. Someone had asked why she would search the name at that time. I didn't realize the whole entry was a typo.But that would be after she got her phone back from the police. They could not have seen that she searched her after they had examined the phone.