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It must have scared her to death. Poor woman.Yes - the "porch interviews" had Sandy wanting to hop a plane!
I think this started at a very young age, and CW was shaped to a large extent, by his mother.I think CW was brainwashed into maybe hating Shannan by his mother. I think mothers have a huge influence on their sons. I could be wrong but I think that was a catalyst in this.
“I’ve been doing this for 45 years, there’s no category for this, it’s pure evil.” -Dr Phil
The whole thing about the baby being alive, was in regards to the time that Shanann was murdered (she hadn’t miscarried before that). When Shanann died, the baby died (obviously).
As the family was told details by investigators, they thought about how hard it must be for THE INVESTIGATORS to break this to THEM!
That’s the Rzucek’s in a nutshell. Amazing people.
Wow, I don’t how they will ever find peace and not be hurting. I hope they can find some measure of peace somehow.Dr. Phil points out that the Rzucek’s would have taken the children in a heartbeat.
Shanann would have been fine had CW simply just left.
Dr. Phil says that CW was thinking all about himself, as a “malignant narcissist.
Frank Sr. supported the death penalty all along.
They all would have supported it knowing what they know now.
They didn’t know details about Bella’s injuries, or that SW was buried face down until they heard it in court.
Technically correct, I have always viewed Manic Depression as a "B" due to the overwhelming similarity. And the jury is still out: "Because of their overlapping phenomenology and mutually chronic, persistent nature, distinctions between bipolar disorder and cluster B personality disorders remain a source of unresolved clinical controversy."Bipolar disorder is an affective disorder, not a personality disorder. It is not part of cluster B.
Yes, and additionally he modeled his father's behavior all these years. He's close with his dad and describes Pappy Watts as his "hero". The role model who denies real feelings at all costs. MOOI think this started at a very young age, and CW was shaped to a large extent, by his mother.
No woman would have been good enough for him, and she certainly turned up his stress level, and Shanann’s, by being a nasty and vindictive presence.
He didn’t get the way he is, without a little help along the way.
Technically correct, I have always viewed Manic Depression as a "B" due to the overwhelming similarity. And the jury is still out: "Because of their overlapping phenomenology and mutually chronic, persistent nature, distinctions between bipolar disorder and cluster B personality disorders remain a source of unresolved clinical controversy."
Bipolar disorder with comorbid cluster B personality disorder features: impact on suicidality. - PubMed - NCBI
Life-After-Death: Did Spirits Of Shan’ann Watts And Her Daughters Visit Mom After Their Murders? | Dr. Phil
Shan’ann’s mother, Sandy Rzucek, lives in North Carolina. She claims that the morning her daughter and grandchildren were killed – before anyone knew they were missing – she woke up family members in her home to tell them that she felt something was wrong with Shan’ann.
After authorities found her daughter’s body, a few days after her and the girls’ disappearance, Sandy says she felt Shan’ann’s presence in her home. “I felt her, and I heard her say, ‘I love you, Mommy, and I’m sorry.’”
Sandy claims she received another visitation from Shan’ann and her children after Celeste and Bella’s bodies were recovered.
(Watch the video in the article to hear her describe the experience.)
Hmmm. Your experience is almost the exact opposite of mine. ( Although yes I too have met wonderful people with Manic-Depression, ( an antiquated term for Bi-polar I know, but I prefer it, "if it an't broke don't fix it!"), But you have got me thinking now, and I did find an interesting article on manipulative personality traits, ( not necessarily related to mental illness) :This is really a very specific spin on bipolar disorder that doesn’t match anything I know about it, and that’s all I have to add from an objective standpoint. Subjectively, I know several people with the bipolar dx, and most of them are lovely, kind, thoughtful human beings. One is a mess. None act personality-disordered.
There have been a number of articles regarding FA specific to this case.
WOW. You don't know psychological aspects do you. Yes, I believe momma Watts caused alot of this, period.
How much you wanna bet Ma Watts told hubby to do that.
Yeah. There were some of the same common factors in play.Thanks!
I was interested in some of the non-CW articles mainly to find common threads between him and other family annihilators. I've seen opinions floating around that CW isn't like those other killers, that somehow he was victimized (by SW) or was coerced (by NK) or that the patches were the cause. The history of family annihilators and their pathology suggests there are other factors that led to CW premeditating these vicious murders specific to his upbringing and personality. The theory that he doesn't fit the FBI profile, in multiple ways, just doesn't ring true.