Still Missing CO - Suzanne Morphew, 49, Chaffee Co, 10 May 2020 *arrest* #96

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I hope you’re right but your post reminds me that Barry may have forbid MM2 from a further relationship with MH. Sad yet possible. Imagine you’ve lost your mom, your dad is in jail for her murder and your father has forbidden you from communicating with your closest person. Heartbreaking. IMO
I’m not sure we know Barry forbade the relationship, but I can imagine once he was arrested it would be difficult for MH to go along with the “my dad is innocent” narrative, especially if he read the AA. No doubt MH and his dad began questioning BM’s innocence early on but wanted to be supportive of MM2. Right off the bat MH cast doubt on BM’s story of where SM rode her bike. If MM2 believed without a doubt that her dad was innocent, it would be hard for MH to play along indefinitely. That alone could have helped dissolve the relationship. I think MH’s dad clued in pretty quickly that BM’s narrative didn’t add up and although he may not have shared those suspicions right away they surely played on his mind. That ridiculous video BM put out was so utterly cringe worthy who could not smell BM was a rat?? Most of us here felt right from the beginning he was guilty and even more so after reading the details of the AA. I’m sure the Harveys suspected it too.
 
Well, the Dateline piece wasn’t terrible. I would have been happier if TS didn’t get his fifteen minutes of bromance. Suzanne going dark as soon as Barry arrived home wasn’t factored in at all, which to me was the worst omission. Oh and true crime followers are insane and hateful. I think if I had watched it and knew nothing about the case, I would still think he murdered Suzanne.
 
Well, that was ... something. Not bad, not great.

All I know is that every time Melinda spoke, I teared up. My emotional attachment to this case is ridiculous. :rolleyes:

I did appreciate hearing the points of view of all the players. It humanized them all.

#JusticeForSuzanne
 
Last 5 minutes are all defense...lots of misrepresentation of the unknown DNA, defense POV on the dart, cellphone data, etc...so I recommend turning it off before then!
First 36 minutes AND the last 5. Wow. I can't count how much they got wrong. So much for investigative reporting.
The entire production was terribly irresponsible with a trial looming.
 
30 minutes in and it's pretty much been all sympathetic to Barry...but here comes the suspicion. And now Team Moorman is up.

Ugh this guy TS is super annoying though.
TS has been annoying since the very beginning. It doesn’t matter how much evidence you put before him, he just ignores it and continues to play for “Team Barry.” I’d like to reveal more, but you know what happens when we do that :).
 
The fact that in most all litigation, one party "wins" and one party "loses" creates an inherent competition between the litigants and their attorneys.

Criminal cases are slightly different because mixed verdicts could be construed as a win or loss for the state or defendant, depending. Either way, after a jury verdict in a criminal case one party will declare victory in some way.

Like it or not, the U.S system of justice is based on adverserial parties presenting their cases before a court and/or jury in an effort to "win" their case.

Litigation is a high-stakes intellectual game of poker played in the Casino of Justice. If you want to be in the arena, you better know how to play the game, or you will likely get your hat handed to you.

Litigating any high profile case is difficult. Way more difficult then most people would think. You have to do an entire song and dance with the facts, law, rules of evidence, strategy, media, and every other unknown issue that pops up during the case. Add to this most "good litigators" including defense attorneys and prosecutors have many other cases they are dealing with.

At the end of the day, regardless of who they represent, all great litigators are zeolous advocates for their clients who do their best to win the case.

The biggest problem with the U.S. justice system, IMO, especially in the criminal law side, is the lack of quality attorneys for some defendants, especially those that are indigent.

One thing that seems certain in this case is that the defendant is adequatley represented by counsel and thus one of the more common issues on appeal is taken off the table before jury selection even starts...IMO
Absolutely and there are excellent court provided defense attorneys but the burden of sheer numbers of cases and limited budgets is a weakness in our system unfortunately.
 
First 36 minutes AND the last 5. Wow. I can't count how much they got wrong. So much for investigative reporting.
The entire production was terribly irresponsible with a trial looming.
It is disgraceful IMO although it seems to be the MO for MSM. Ratings be damned but please remind me which country we live in? Shameful!
 
It was one of those shows where if you went in knowing nothing about the case, you'd likely find yourself somewhere in the middle at the end of it.

You wouldn't be convinced of his guilt, and you wouldn't be convinced of his innocence.

You'd hear about that DNA and likely think a sex offender could have really done it.

Of course we know better.

There are dozens and dozens of things that paint a picture here, and that was merely one broad brush stroke.
 
TS has been annoying since the very beginning. It doesn’t matter how much evidence you put before him, he just ignores it and continues to play for “Team Barry.” I’d like to reveal more, but you know what happens when we do that :).
My guess is Barry has something on TS. We will
Never know but it is beyond creepy IMO
 
If this guys guilty it's going to take a lot more than what I saw tonight. For someone who knew nothing about this case and just watched Dateline I can't believe he was even charged. The case seems extremely weak.

However, from reading the last few pages here there's obviously much more to the story. Not sure why Dateline was so vague but I guess they covered it in the original story. Might need to watch the original if I can find it.
 
At the 1:30 mark, Barry's sister claims that Barry called her on the way home. Do we have phone records to compare this to?

https://twitter.com/datelinenbc/status/1497276457952759810?s=21
I went through the call log provided in the defense Exhibit II and converted from UTC and put the calls in order and this is what I got for May 10. I do not see a call to his sister. However, the call log does not go all of the way up until he arrives at Puma Path, so I suppose he could have called her in the time period right before getting back?

I tried to correlate the times listed in this exhibit with text from the AA and it looks problematic to me. Below, I tried to color code some of the times in the list with text in the AA to try to match them, but it sure looks like sometimes the text references UTC-7 local time (highlighted in pink), and sometimes it seems to reference UTC -6 local time (highlighted in blue). I don't even know what to think anymore. Please, if someone sees something I did wrong in my time conversions or whatever else, please correct me. The UTC Listed column contains the times listed in Exhibit II. I created the two Local Time columns as I couldn't figure out what the heck was going on. Why can't anything on this case be straight-forward?

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The call logs start on page 20 of 83:
https://www.courts.state.co.us/userfiles/file/Court_Probation/11th_Judicial_District/Chaffee/cases of interest/21CR78/Defense Prelim Hearing Ex Rest.pdf

ETA
Arrest Affidavit:
https://www.courts.state.co.us/user.../21CR78/21cr78 Morphew Redacted Affidavit.pdf
 
If this guys guilty it's going to take a lot more than what I saw tonight. For someone who knew nothing about this case and just watched Dateline I can't believe he was even charged. The case seems extremely weak.

However, from reading the last few pages here there's obviously much more to the story. Not sure why Dateline was so vague but I guess they covered it in the original story. Might need to watch the original if I can find it.
As I said before, the production of this Dateline was completely irresponsible. I wouldn't go looking for facts in the first edition either. There's way too much to this case to be covered. It would take a miniseries to cover what we've learned in the past year and 9 months, not to mention the hearing transcripts and the Arrest Affidavit itself.
 
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