Still Missing CO - Suzanne Morphew, 49, Chaffee Co, 10 May 2020 *arrest* #98

[Megnut]

No, no fight, in fact, paraphrasing, "it had been a perfect night".

Come to think if it, maybe he meant it.

Perfect night.

Problems solved.

Because if he's guilty of what he's charged with, that's the word he picked to describe his afternoon and evening on 5/9.

And to me, that's bone-chilling.

JMO

 

[DizzyB]

It just feels all word salad-y to me. Keep on throwing stuff against the wall until something sticks, and surround the facts with so much distraction and minutiae that one gets tired of paying attention and reasoning things out.

 

[Cindizzi]

It was the Fox article - and thanks I can see the pdf.

Here’s part of the article:


Another motion filed this month, suggests there also being a fourth CODIS hit connected to DNA found on the glovebox of Suzanne’s Range Rover. The three CODIS hits previously mentioned in court have connections to Arizona and Illinois but have been ruled out according to the prosecution. The court documents reveal the fourth CODIS hit is linked to Maryland and was allegedly not produced to the defense. This Maryland CODIS hit remains unresolved, according to the motion filed by the defense.

Morphew’s attorneys allege the prosecution has violated multiple discovery sanctions. They claim the prosecution has recently produced additional evidence that should have been produced months ago, showing a pattern of continuing violations.

Many of the 1,000 potential jurors have already received their jury summons. The trial is expected to begin at the beginning of May.
Morphew’s defense files motion to dismiss murder case again | FOX21 News Colorado

 

[Momofthreeboys]

Let's fact check Suzanne's claims.

Barry is lying about his relationship with another woman.

Barry is using their daughters as a shield and as props to prop up an image.

Barry is doing sketchy stuff with money.

Barry continues to be angry, aggressive, controlling.

Barry continues to lie about where he is and who he's with.

Fair chance Barry isn't holding Suzanne's rightful share of their holdings in trust.

Suzanne was right.

Barry is wrong.

Suzanne wanted to live her life with transparency.

She didn't get to have the living part, but the transparency is coming -- as its all laid BARE.

May justice catch up to him swiftly.

JMO

I agree you got her grievances about her marriage down or at least what trail she left...with the exception of their comingled money. That was her decision entirely as she choose the PP home and knew what the price was so comingled in order to make that move. Perhaps she "thought" they could sell and close quickly on Indiana, but that didn't happen...I would hazard a family court judge has heard it all over the years of listening to divorce grievances...but is often said divorces don't often end up with murder. Prosecution has to climb that hill...not that they had a rocky marriage. I don't think one person disagrees with the fact their marriage was on the rocks.

 

[Scootie98]

I agree you got her grievances about her marriage down or at least what trail she left...with the exception of their comingled money. That was her decision entirely as she choose the PP home and knew what the price was so comingled in order to make that move. Perhaps she "thought" they could sell and close quickly on Indiana, but that didn't happen...I would hazard a family court judge has heard it all over the years of listening to divorce grievances...but is often said divorces don't often end up with murder. Prosecution has to climb that hill...not that they had a rocky marriage. I don't think one person disagrees with the fact their marriage was on the rocks.

Suzanne herself said that 80% of their arguments were over money, IIRC. Thats a pretty high number.

 

[K9Enzo]

Suzanne herself said that 80% of their arguments were over money, IIRC. Thats a pretty high number.

Some couples that's ALL they fight over - money. IMO

 

[WingsOverTX]

This came out during the campaign IIRC, but voters who hate "the government" (even though in a democracy, we collectively are the government) seem to be irrationally drawn to candidates whose integrity is highly questionable.

One of my concerns has been that the judges of the 11th Judicial District are quite aware of both Stanley's integrity issues and her much-less-than-distinguished legal career, and are inclined to be skeptical of her decisions. We see this skepticism very clearly in Judge L's decision on venue. I see her overt involvement in the prosecution as problematic, and I hope she simply stays away from the hearings and trial.

It couldn't be that Judge RL is trained as and previously had a career as a defense lawyer? It has to be that DA LS is problematic?

Evidence allowed should follow the rule of law and not depend on the faults or biases of these two. Judge PM is the one who should be sanctioned for allowing the flimsiness of partial DNA "evidence" to put a man charged with 1st degree murder back on the street.

Lack of proof evident presumption great hinging on that one thing is truly where this started going off the rails.

Before Cahill testifies, he needs a mental health evaluation. He is the most unfit person in this entire case. And that was true even before he carelessly shot himself.

JMO

 

[Momofthreeboys]

Suzanne herself said that 80% of their arguments were over money, IIRC. Thats a pretty high number.

Many marriages fail over money arguments and/or infidelity. I have a pretty solid marriage but many of the arguments are about money - I'm conservative and my H is a risk taker. We kept our "investment/savings" money separate for several decades LOL it was the only way or our marriage probably would have failed. Now we're too old and tired to argue I can say in my opinion that I agree: however her disappearance turns out, whoever it turns out did it, it was about money.

 

[Love Never Fails]

I agree you got her grievances about her marriage down or at least what trail she left...with the exception of their comingled money. That was her decision entirely as she choose the PP home and knew what the price was so comingled in order to make that move. Perhaps she "thought" they could sell and close quickly on Indiana, but that didn't happen...I would hazard a family court judge has heard it all over the years of listening to divorce grievances...but is often said divorces don't often end up with murder. Prosecution has to climb that hill...not that they had a rocky marriage. I don't think one person disagrees with the fact their marriage was on the rocks.

You make good points but you don’t know for a fact it was her decision to choose the PP home. And the texts and facts prove otherwise. I believe she was choosing to make her narcissistic husband happy one more time and hoping he would be home more and their marriage would survive.

Then they are in CO for a very short time when she realizes he was never going to change. Once again life was all about him so she reached out to JL, as she had no one else. Had JL rebuffed her, she likely would have gone into a deep depression.

As far as combining the money, it sounds to me like Barry took advantage of her inheritance to, yet again, fulfill his own dream. He may have been the one to work outside the home, but he was the one controlling the money. There was never a 50/50 deal between them in their marriage. And her working at home, and being the one to raise their daughters took a ton of work.

Nope. Her inheritance belonged to HER, not to “them”. I’m sure he manipulated her to make her feel that it was half his though.

ETA:
i would like to add her murder may not have been about money, though I believe it is likely. It could be that Barry found out about JL and since he had a new side piece, he thought it better to rid himself of his first wife and her medical insurance and cancer and begin again with his dumpster maid. (And Suzanne’s money). JMO.

 

[Momofthreeboys]

You make good points but you don’t know for a fact it was her decision to choose the PP home. And the texts and facts prove otherwise. I believe she was choosing to make her narcissistic husband happy one more time and hoping he would be home more and their marriage would survive.

Then they are in CO for a very short time when she realizes he was never going to change. Once again life was all about him so she reached out to JL, as she had no one else. Had JL rebuffed her, she likely would have gone into a deep depression.

As far as combining the money, it sounds to me like Barry took advantage of her inheritance to, yet again, fulfill his own dream. He may have been the one to work outside the home, but he was the one controlling the money. There was never a 50/50 deal between them in their marriage. And her working at home, and being the one to raise their daughters took a ton of work.

Nope. Her inheritance belonged to HER, not to “them”. I’m sure he manipulated her to make her feel that it was half his though.

ETA:
i would like to add her murder may not have been about money, though I believe it is likely. It could be that Barry found out about JL and since he had a new side piece, he thought it better to rid himself of his first wife and her medical insurance and cancer and begin again with his dumpster maid. (And Suzanne’s money). JMO.

I just went from her sister Melinda saying she picked out the PP home so I treated Melinda's comment as fact.

 

[Love Never Fails]

I just went from her sister Melinda saying she picked out the PP home so I treated Melinda's comment as fact.

My point (and JMO) was that EVERYTHING Suzanne did was in line with putting Barry first, because that’s the only way she had peace. I think where you and I differ is on our opinions of BM.

 

[Momofthreeboys]

My point (and JMO) was that EVERYTHING Suzanne did was in line with putting Barry first, because that’s the only way she had peace. I think where you and I differ is on our opinions of BM.

I can understand that. I'm sure we've all known a woman or two who put everyone else before their personal needs. I think I will always think that Colorado was a "do-over" solution for her for a marriage she was in discontent with and that Barry was OK with the move location because it fit her desire to be closer to her daughter, was a "fresh start" community and Barry liked the region and he let her pick out the house. It was a smaller house square footage so while more expensive, perhaps more to the size they needed as the kids aged out of being home all the time.

 

[Scootie98]

I just went from her sister Melinda saying she picked out the PP home so I treated Melinda's comment as fact.

I think the move, and therefore the house was a Hail Mary to save the marriage in SM's eyes....While she "picked the house"...she was also looking at real estate in Salida near the end of her life...yet another Hail Mary. We need to factor in "desperation" when trying to make sense of the house decision, the move, etc....I think that contributed greatly to decisions that otherwise would have been quite different.

 

[Scootie98]

Many marriages fail over money arguments and/or infidelity. I have a pretty solid marriage but many of the arguments are about money - I'm conservative and my H is a risk taker. We kept our "investment/savings" money separate for several decades LOL it was the only way or our marriage probably would have failed. Now we're too old and tired to argue I can say in my opinion that I agree: however her disappearance turns out, whoever it turns out did it, it was about money.

While that is true...I mentioned the "80%" because Suzanne mentioned it....meaning, she was very cognizant of the basis for their arguments, and the extent to which that basis occurred.

 

[Megnut]

Based on the remaining little bit of voice of Suzanne that Barry didn't silence, it's clear to me that Suzanne did not comingle her money. She agreed to loan it to Barry who said he would pay her back. His boasts of what he could earn in a summer. Was she supposed to grovel to get her money back?

Yes, at divorce, the law might be harsh. Comingled by choice and comingled by fraud may be treated the same in a court of law, but Suzanne didn't get a chance to fight that battle or learn that hard lesson.

What she had was a husband who, based on what we can gather, convinced her to front her inheritance for PP with the promise and expectation of having it returned in full.

What we don't know is what tactics he used to effect that arrangement.

We also have no proof that Suzanne picked that home. We only know that's what she told her sister. At a time when Suzanne was trying to take a bad marriage and lean into a fresh start. It's entirely possible and equally probable IMO that she wasn't ready to invite scrutiny into her marriage. That is not unique to her.

As for the house, if Suzanne did any choosing, we don't know what she had for actual choices. As simple as between two listings or as complex as between a house, any house and Barry threatening suicide.

Listen, Suzanne, you know I love you. You can trust me. When have I ever been untrustingworthy? We can get the house and I'll pay you back. You don't want the girls to grow up in a plain house. I'm going to pay it back, I can make a million dollars this summer. I pay people back. 100%. My whole life I pay people back.

Suzanne didn't divorce Barry in 2018 (from his own mouth, we know he wouldn't even discuss it. Which is CONTROL. Stonewalling is abusive.).

She moved to Colorado. Left family and friends and her support system behind.

She mothered her children, battled cancer, kept a home, made an impression locally, provided her security toward that fresh start with the declared stipulation it be returned -- she wasn't demanding a civil contract with Barry, she was trusting a moral one. He said he would...

What did Barry do, toward a fresh start?

I think it's safe to say one party in that marriage had no intention of changing, and when the other one realized it, she began to change, no longer willing to let another person subvert her free agency.

He didn't like it one bit.

Ballsy.

So he made good on his promise. Marriage is for life and he loved her to death.

Only it was never love of her.

JMO

 

[justtrish]

What the prosecution needs to show is that any ordinary household has touch DNA.

I think most cars have a lot of touch DNA as well. Where as homes get cleaned often, counters, doorknobs, walls even get wiped down and likely even more so in Suzanne's house with cancer treatments and COVID keeping everyone home for 2 months before this, I feel like she was likely to really have kept at least common areas cleaned. Who wipes down the inside of their glove box? I mean really I can't think of a single time I have wiped inside my glove box. I have been pulled over and handed what is inside my glove box to LE, I have gotten an oil change where strangers were inside my car turning on and off blinkers and whatever else they do. I am sure the sales people before I bought my car opened and closed the glove box because a manual for the car comes inside there. I just think it's ridiculous that this is where the "stranger DNA" was found and that is enough to derail this case to make someone believe that a strangers DNA in her glove box inside her garage means that person is somehow the one that took her, staged a bike, didn't steal anything else, just her and her phone with it's charger. If even one other thing was out of place, her purse gone or cards thrown about, same DNA on the door handles and on her purse, or the doorknob of the house, or gosh anywhere in the house, the bedroom the night stand near where the phone charger would be plugged in... anything.. but it isn't because that DNA is just not relevant.

 

[justtrish]

I’d really love someone who has worked for the prosecution in some capacity to weigh in on this – if we have anybody ?
My assumption is, it looks lop sided because it is. I think the state is just buried by this case in addition to all their others. All the motions by D are exhausting. It would seem the state does not have the bandwidth economically or manpower wise to respond in a timely fashion to it all. I don’t know how they solve that. There are budgets I assume and nobody can find help these days.
I think the judge should understand this since he worked the prosecution side at one time but I am not sure it matters but I have no experience in this arena.
It is just not an even playing field IMO
As far as I can tell, Iris and her squad are counting on overwhelming the prosecution and then sanctioning the H out of them about discovery when they drop a ball. Or even if there is a perception they have dropped a ball. Its all they have.

It’s a real eye opener for me

Edited to correct trail to trial.. gets me when my fingers are typing faster than my brain is thinking.. lol

I am wondering if they are just focused on the trial and not at all concerned with all the defenses motions. If they are confident in their case and see through what the defense is doing with these motions (grasping at straws), then why even bother to be focused on these distractions? I think the defense could be trying to busy the prosecution with these motions hoping they have less focus on the actual trial. What might be seen as slow to respond is just the prosecution not putting all their time into that mess and instead working on the case they will be presenting in about a month.

 

[justtrish]

RSBM
This whole Cody/Andy business is understandable.
AA page 26.. During Barry's June 25th interview
Barry said "that Suzanne's family, the Moorman's, were involved in marijuana and maybe they were responsible for her disappearance. He referred to Suzanne's sister, Melinda, as being "wicked," and her brother, David, as being "smart enough to do something like this. He's brilliant." ....
Clearly pointing his finger at Melinda, David, and the nephews...not Andy. Because Andy was still unaware of Barry's lies and giving him the benefit of the doubt. When Andy came to help search on May 11th
Barry clearly planted the seed he had a problem with Cody...

That was all Andy knew, he believed even up until early July Barry had taken and passed polygraph test. Seems David was just on to Barry and Melinda had the benefit of a distressed text a few days before. Andy took Barry at "face value" until he learned differently.
This is what Andy believed, that Cody had threatened the family. Listen from about 9 minutes to 12 or so..you have it all.

That is an interesting choice of words that Barry used just 6 weeks after his wife is missing. What exactly did he think happened to Suzanne at that point to make him say the person responsible would need to be "smart enough to do something like this.. brilliant". So is ole Barry then suggesting he himself is just so smart and brilliant because of course the person responsible who he says could be her own brother because it smart enough to pull this off.

We can read some truth into much of what Barry says. He definitely thinks he is smart and brilliant for pulling this off.. gag

 

[Momofthreeboys]

Based on the remaining little bit of voice of Suzanne that Barry didn't silence, it's clear to me that Suzanne did not comingle her money. She agreed to loan it to Barry who said he would pay her back. His boasts of what he could earn in a summer. Was she supposed to grovel to get her money back?

Yes, at divorce, the law might be harsh. Comingled by choice and comingled by fraud may be treated the same in a court of law, but Suzanne didn't get a chance to fight that battle or learn that hard lesson.

What she had was a husband who, based on what we can gather, convinced her to front her inheritance for PP with the promise and expectation of having it returned in full.

What we don't know is what tactics he used to effect that arrangement.

We also have no proof that Suzanne picked that home. We only know that's what she told her sister. At a time when Suzanne was trying to take a bad marriage and lean into a fresh start. It's entirely possible and equally probable IMO that she wasn't ready to invite scrutiny into her marriage. That is not unique to her.

As for the house, if Suzanne did any choosing, we don't know what she had for actual choices. As simple as between two listings or as complex as between a house, any house and Barry threatening suicide.

Listen, Suzanne, you know I love you. You can trust. When have I ever been untrustingworthy? We can get the house and I'll pay you back. You don't want the girls to grow up in a plain house. I'm going to pay it back, I can make a million dollars this summer. I pay people back. 100%. My whole life I pay people back.

Suzanne didn't divorce Barry in 2018 (from his own mouth, we know he wouldn't even discuss it. Which is CONTROL. Stonewalling is abusive.).

She moved to Colorado. Left family and friends and her support system behind.

She mothered her children, battled cancer, kept a home, made an impression locally, provided her security toward that fresh start with the declared stipulation it be returned -- she wasn't demanding a civil contract with Barry, she was trusting a moral one. He said he would...

What did Barry do, toward a fresh start?

I think it's safe to say one party in that marriage had no intention of changing, and when the other one realized it, she began to change, no longer willing to let another person subvert her free agency.

He didn't like it one bit.

Ballsy.

So he made good on his promise. Marriage is for life and he loved her to death.

Only it was never love of her.

JMO

I don't think it's right to pick and choose what to believe that Suzanne said to her sister. You said that " we have no proof Suzanne picked the house". Her sister said she did because Suzanne told her. If you follow your logic then we could assume the position of not believing anything Suzanne said to her sister....or we decide sometimes she spoke the truth sometimes she didn't. I personally tend to think Suzanne told her sister the truth at the moments they conversed, only what she said and what she spoke was truthful from her perspective. She could have withheld info also and really no one can fill those blanks in factually now. As far as stonewalling, Suzanne had free will. I think we all agree she should have just filed for divorce sooner rather than "waiting"...but sounds like her nature was to put others first and she was thinking of her daughters. I think the accurate statement was Suzanne no longer loved Barry. I do think it's going to be difficult for some because I think that point is going to be important at trial. There is no evidence even out of Barry's mouth that he didn't love Suzanne and those are the facts as it is right now. He didn't want a divorce, that is factual.. and that can go toward motive but none of us can get into either of their minds to know what was really going on.

 

[justtrish]

Come to think if it, maybe he meant it.

Perfect night.

Problems solved.

Because if he's guilty of what he's charged with, that's the word he picked to describe his afternoon and evening on 5/9.

And to me, that's bone-chilling.

JMO

It sure is! It's quite disturbing how calculated and cold he really is. I think he got his way his entire life.. he did what he wanted, when he wanted and this was no different. He thought he pulled off the perfect crime. I bet he laid in that hotel room thinking over just how perfect it all was just waiting for the call so he could rush back home and be the concerned, upset, loving husband.