Found Deceased CO - Suzanne Morphew, 49, Chaffee Co, 10 May 2020 *Case dismissed w/o prejudice* *found in 2023* #111

[Boxer]

There is likely a lot of work to do on the grave forensics and trying to find new digital evidence. That stuff will not be fast.

Unfortunately I guess there won’t be any traffic cams or anything in the direction of the gravesite three years later?

IMO it’s clear neither the truck or the victims RR drove to the gravesite.

True, there was still SMs old RR which daughter was using parked at PP.
MOO The missing 14 miles could have been to meet an accomplice.

 

[mrjitty]

True, there was still SMs old RR which daughter was using parked at PP.
MOO The missing 14 miles could have been to meet an accomplice.

All of this has cleared up one puzzle for me, and that is why Barry said to Grusing that it was 'ironic' that it was the left turn that implicated him so badly. He was giving a glimpse to an internal thought process where he compared two things and the result was the opposite of what you expect. He thought he was in the clear at that stage and got sloppy

IMO he found it ironic that laying a false trail in the wrong direction had given it away when in fact no one had discovered where he really went.

 

[fcavanaugh]

Possibilities for transport and disposal:
* BM used the daughter’s Non-GPS Range Rover
* BM used some other vehicle he might have had easy access to- jobsite? Fire station? Neighbor?
* BM had an accomplice that did the disposal- who??? Some ideas:
Someone(s) in BM’s close circle (friends, workers, associates etc) that LE either just met very briefly with, and/or someone(s) in his close circle LE actually interviewed during the initial investigation, and/or someone completely unknown to LE.

BM would have left his phone at home and I assume *IF* he did have an accomplice that transported/disposed, this person may or may not have had their phone with them (IMO BM likely would have told them NOT to bring their phone and they may have a non-GPS vehicle also maybe, maybe not). Again, I personally think BM did it all but having an accomplice help after the fact isn’t totally out of the realm of possibility.

A few questions:
* would traffic cameras along the route to Moffat be working at the time and if so, would the cameras have stored info from 3 1/2 years ago for LE to be able to go back and review the footage?
* What if BM and accomplice knew of some back roads route to Moffat to avoid cameras? In that case we’d have no phone tracking, no vehicle tracking, and nothing showing up on cameras which makes LE/DA’s job all the more tougher trying to build their new case and why it’s likely going to take time before we see BM’s next arrest, if ever. (I hate even typing that).

Considering the above, my next question is maybe for @10ofRods or anyone else who may know:
* if BM did in fact tranq SM before finishing her off, would the tranq still be detectable in her remains iow, can toxicology even be run on scattered remains (bones) and will tranq show up on toxicology after 3 1/2 years? This (tranq sowing up on tox screen) may be the only way LE/DA can put the final nail in BM’s coffin if they can’t put him or an accomplice at SM’s grave in Moffat.

The only other options I see if LE can’t track/tie BM or accomplice to the Moffat gravesite is if something else at the gravesite itself was found implicating BM (his DNA under SM’s nails) or someone as in accomplice that actually did help with the disposal and/or other players in this case who may know certain things starts growing a conscience and starts talking.

ETA: As far as if BM had an accomplice, I do not rule out that the person was paid off by BM and possibly has since left the area to get away and distanced themselves from both BM and the area/the nightmare and if is the case, will take longer for their conscience to come around, if ever. Or this person still has some sort of relationship with BM and are afraid to speak up out of fear of what they know BM is capable of.

ETA again, for clarity.

IMHOO

#JUSTICEFORSUZANNE

 

[Megnut]

Possibilities for transport and disposal:
* BM used the daughter’s Non-GPS Range Rover
* BM used some other vehicle he might have had easy access to- jobsite? Fire station? Neighbor?
* BM had an accomplice that did the disposal- who??? Some ideas:
Someone(s) in BM’s close circle (friends, workers, associates etc) that LE either just met very briefly with, and/or someone(s) in his close circle LE actually interviewed during the initial investigation. Someone completely unknown to LE.

BM would have left his phone at home and I assume *IF* he did have an accomplice that transported/disposed, this person may or may not have had their phone with them (IMO BM likely would have told them NOT to bring their phone and they may have a non-GPS vehicle also maybe, maybe not). Again, I personally think BM did it all but having an accomplice help after the fact isn’t totally out of the realm of possibility.

A few questions:
* would traffic cameras along the route to Moffat be working at the time and if so, would the cameras have stored info from 3 1/2 years ago for LE to be able to go back and review the footage?
* What if BM and accomplice knew of some back roads route to Moffat to avoid cameras? In that case we’d have no phone tracking, no vehicle tracking, and nothing showing up on cameras which makes LE/DA’s job all the more tougher trying to build their new case and why it’s likely going to take time before we see BM’s next arrest, if ever (I hate even typing that).

Considering the above, my next question is maybe for @10ofRods or anyone else who may know:
* if BM did in fact tranq SM before finishing her off, would the tranq still be detectable in her remains iow, can toxicology even be run on scattered remains (bones) and will tranq show up on toxicology after 3 1/2 years? This (tranq sowing up on tox screen) may be the only way LE/DA can put the final nail in BM’s coffin if they can’t put him or an accomplice at SM’s grave in Moffat.
The only other options I see if LE can’t track/tie BM or accomplice to the Moffat gravesite is if something else at the gravesite itself was found implicating BM (his DNA under SM’s nails) or someone as in accomplice that actually did help with the disposal and/or other players in this case who may know certain things starts growing a conscience and starts talking.

TIA

IMHOO

#JUSTICEFORSUZANNE

Suzanne was sooooo thin.... without deer hide, I might add... I'm hopeful there's evidence of a dart in bone... broken needle tip, gold. Residual BAM in her port, more gold.

Suzanne wanted transparency.

He burned her journal. I hope her remains find a way to tell her story for her. The truth will set her free. The truth should put him away for life.

JMO

 

[Boxer]

Suzanne was sooooo thin.... without deer hide, I might add... I'm hopeful there's evidence of a dart in bone... broken needle tip, gold. Residual BAM in her port, more gold.

Suzanne wanted transparency.

He burned her journal. I hope her remains find a way to tell her story for her. The truth will set her free. The truth should put him away for life.

JMO

Agree.
Maybe some remains were buried longer and retained some soft tissue.
A shallow grave by a power line catwalk. Seems like too much time and work for a opportunistic killer.
Throwing her body in bushes off the side of a road or down an embankment seems more like that MO.

 

[mrjitty]

Possibilities for transport and disposal:
* BM used the daughter’s Non-GPS Range Rover
* BM used some other vehicle he might have had easy access to- jobsite? Fire station? Neighbor?
* BM had an accomplice that did the disposal- who??? Some ideas:
Someone(s) in BM’s close circle (friends, workers, associates etc) that LE either just met very briefly with, and/or someone(s) in his close circle LE actually interviewed during the initial investigation, and/or someone completely unknown to LE.

BM would have left his phone at home and I assume *IF* he did have an accomplice that transported/disposed, this person may or may not have had their phone with them (IMO BM likely would have told them NOT to bring their phone and they may have a non-GPS vehicle also maybe, maybe not). Again, I personally think BM did it all but having an accomplice help after the fact isn’t totally out of the realm of possibility.

A few questions:
* would traffic cameras along the route to Moffat be working at the time and if so, would the cameras have stored info from 3 1/2 years ago for LE to be able to go back and review the footage?
* What if BM and accomplice knew of some back roads route to Moffat to avoid cameras? In that case we’d have no phone tracking, no vehicle tracking, and nothing showing up on cameras which makes LE/DA’s job all the more tougher trying to build their new case and why it’s likely going to take time before we see BM’s next arrest, if ever. (I hate even typing that).

Considering the above, my next question is maybe for @10ofRods or anyone else who may know:
* if BM did in fact tranq SM before finishing her off, would the tranq still be detectable in her remains iow, can toxicology even be run on scattered remains (bones) and will tranq show up on toxicology after 3 1/2 years? This (tranq sowing up on tox screen) may be the only way LE/DA can put the final nail in BM’s coffin if they can’t put him or an accomplice at SM’s grave in Moffat.

The only other options I see if LE can’t track/tie BM or accomplice to the Moffat gravesite is if something else at the gravesite itself was found implicating BM (his DNA under SM’s nails) or someone as in accomplice that actually did help with the disposal and/or other players in this case who may know certain things starts growing a conscience and starts talking.

ETA: As far as if BM had an accomplice, I do not rule out that the person was paid off by BM and possibly has since left the area to get away and distanced themselves from both BM and the area/the nightmare and if is the case, will take longer for their conscience to come around, if ever. Or this person still has some sort of relationship with BM and are afraid to speak up out of fear of what they know BM is capable of.

ETA again, for clarity.

IMHOO

#JUSTICEFORSUZANNE

I don't know the answers to these but i offer a couple of comments.

Some theories claim BM was a digital mastermind who could disable his Truck telematics, spoof SMs phone messages etc etc. I dispute that as he actually gave away lots of digital evidence which implicated him. His mistakes are actually the ones you see in multiple cases - where being aware that he can be tracked by his phone, he simply puts it in airplane mode. But forgetting that location data is passive and also that the 'black spots' reveal when he is up to no good. He then goes to all the dump sites revealed by his telematics. This isn't the action of someone who is good at covering his digital tracks, but rather someone who had relaxed, and then made the mistake we see in lots of cases revealing incriminating actions before/after the fact.

So I don't think there was a complex scheme with his truck. We see it active in the evening, and we see it active in the 3am hour - but in between there is a digital blackout, because he doesn't have either with him IMO. He knew he had telematics. So IMO he simply took a vehicle without it. That is much easier than jiggering your truck. Rather, he believed the truck and phone would provide his alibi by showing up at home.

For the same reason, I doubt there is an accomplice, and I doubt he took someone else's vehicle. I think he just took the older RR.

 

[K9Enzo]

I don't know the answers to these but i offer a couple of comments.

Some theories claim BM was a digital mastermind who could disable his Truck telematics, spoof SMs phone messages etc etc. I dispute that as he actually gave away lots of digital evidence which implicated him. His mistakes are actually the ones you see in multiple cases - where being aware that he can be tracked by his phone, he simply puts it in airplane mode. But forgetting that location data is passive and also that the 'black spots' reveal when he is up to no good. He then goes to all the dump sites revealed by his telematics. This isn't the action of someone who is good at covering his digital tracks, but rather someone who had relaxed, and then made the mistake we see in lots of cases revealing incriminating actions before/after the fact.

So I don't think there was a complex scheme with his truck. We see it active in the evening, and we see it active in the 3am hour - but in between there is a digital blackout, because he doesn't have either with him IMO. He knew he had telematics. So IMO he simply took a vehicle without it. That is much easier than jiggering your truck. Rather, he believed the truck and phone would provide his alibi by showing up at home.

For the same reason, I doubt there is an accomplice, and I doubt he took someone else's vehicle. I think he just took the older RR.

It doesn’t appear to me the Morphew vehicles were at play. imo

Barry Morphew Asked About Immunity

CBI Agent Derek Graham was next to take the witness stand.

Graham testified that the tire track casings found near where Suzanne’s helmet was located did not match Barry’s truck or two Range Rovers. DNA collected from the helmet also did not match Barry’s DNA.

 

[mrjitty]

It doesn’t appear to me the Morphew vehicles were at play. imo

Barry Morphew Asked About Immunity

CBI Agent Derek Graham was next to take the witness stand.

Graham testified that the tire track casings found near where Suzanne’s helmet was located did not match Barry’s truck or two Range Rovers. DNA collected from the helmet also did not match Barry’s DNA.

And yet we know his Truck drove that way. It's quite possible he just stopped in the road.

 

[girlhasnoname]

I don't know the answers to these but i offer a couple of comments.

Some theories claim BM was a digital mastermind who could disable his Truck telematics, spoof SMs phone messages etc etc. I dispute that as he actually gave away lots of digital evidence which implicated him. His mistakes are actually the ones you see in multiple cases - where being aware that he can be tracked by his phone, he simply puts it in airplane mode. But forgetting that location data is passive and also that the 'black spots' reveal when he is up to no good. He then goes to all the dump sites revealed by his telematics. This isn't the action of someone who is good at covering his digital tracks, but rather someone who had relaxed, and then made the mistake we see in lots of cases revealing incriminating actions before/after the fact.

So I don't think there was a complex scheme with his truck. We see it active in the evening, and we see it active in the 3am hour - but in between there is a digital blackout, because he doesn't have either with him IMO. He knew he had telematics. So IMO he simply took a vehicle without it. That is much easier than jiggering your truck. Rather, he believed the truck and phone would provide his alibi by showing up at home.

For the same reason, I doubt there is an accomplice, and I doubt he took someone else's vehicle. I think he just took the older RR.

I thought it was proven by the truck telematics expert at the PH that there had been a factory reset on the 'black box' on Saturday afternoon/early evening? I'll have to search through the posts from that time, but I'm pretty sure that was stated at some point.

Which always led me to believe he killed her first thing when he returned on Saturday and spent the next hours disposing of Suzanne and trying to clean up his tracks. Well, he did have time for steak for one at some point.

I think he spent his early morning trek on Sunday disposing of anything related to the crime.

I also think he chased her into the MBR and broke that door frame getting in. She would have already talked to her BFF S about the wedding the next day, but I don't believe anyone else spoke to Suzanne directly after that time?

How I hope they nail this nasty, small minded, controlling man in a new trial and soon.

MOO

 

[girlhasnoname]

Suzanne's BFF SO did try and reach her on Saturday by Snapchat with no response.

6:40-6:48 pm

Oliver, told investigators she tried to reach Suzanne that day sending three Snapchat messages between 6:40 and 6:48 pm with no luck.


Suzanne Morphew disappearance: A complete timeline of the case

 

[mrjitty]

I thought it was proven by the truck telematics expert at the PH that there had been a factory reset on the 'black box' on Saturday afternoon/early evening? I'll have to search through the posts from that time, but I'm pretty sure that was stated at some point.

RSBM

IIRC there was a power removal event. So likely he disconnected the truck battery or removed the fuse. But that certainly did not wipe all the data. I remember looking in to this, and it is possible to remove one of the key fuses. But that still would not stop the odometer logging the mileage, and there just isn't that much mileage missing. So if the truck went to the burial site, it would have been necessary to disengage the odometer. I understand that stuff is possible but then why bother? It makes more sense to leave the truck at home to provide an alibi and take a truck with no data.

 

[mrjitty]

Suzanne's BFF SO did try and reach her on Saturday by Snapchat with no response.

6:40-6:48 pm

Oliver, told investigators she tried to reach Suzanne that day sending three Snapchat messages between 6:40 and 6:48 pm with no luck.


Suzanne Morphew disappearance: A complete timeline of the case

This is why i don't believe BM had access to SMs iphone. If he did, he could have faked her being alive until bedtime.

 

[girlhasnoname]

This is why i don't believe BM had access to SMs iphone. If he did, he could have faked her being alive until bedtime.

Agree, Suzanne might have changed her password and BM couldn't get into it. HAHA good for Suzanne, although BM did access Suzanne's Facebook that evening and sent out 23 friend requests, most of them to men. That was his effort to help prove she was alive.

MOO

 

[girlhasnoname]

RSBM

IIRC there was a power removal event. So likely he disconnected the truck battery or removed the fuse. But that certainly did not wipe all the data. I remember looking in to this, and it is possible to remove one of the key fuses. But that still would not stop the odometer logging the mileage, and there just isn't that much mileage missing. So if the truck went to the burial site, it would have been necessary to disengage the odometer. I understand that stuff is possible but then why bother? It makes more sense to leave the truck at home to provide an alibi and take a truck with no data.

I think he was using his own truck to prove his alibi, driving about town, getting a new blade put on the Bobcat. It would have looked more suspicious IMO for him to be driving anything but his own truck, especially in his own mind knowing he had just killed his wife.

EBM: I completely agree that BM had no accomplice and he certainly wasn't a mastermind in anything except being a dirt bag and grifter IMO.

JMO

 

[Megnut]

RSBM

IIRC there was a power removal event. So likely he disconnected the truck battery or removed the fuse. But that certainly did not wipe all the data. I remember looking in to this, and it is possible to remove one of the key fuses. But that still would not stop the odometer logging the mileage, and there just isn't that much mileage missing. So if the truck went to the burial site, it would have been necessary to disengage the odometer. I understand that stuff is possible but then why bother? It makes more sense to leave the truck at home to provide an alibi and take a truck with no data.

Which makes me wonder if there was another vehicle, one in need of a working battery...

A neighbor with a long dead car, parked as undrivable, might never even wonder...

If he disconnected the battery merely to remove the fuse (very plausible), when did he replace it?

It's a sad thought, heaped like a bramble of crap on a flat bed trailer of sad thoughts, that he'd transport Suzanne's lifeless body in his daughter's RR...

That's cold. But we already knew that.

JMO

 

[Megnut]

Agree, Suzanne might have changed her password and BM couldn't get into it. HAHA good for Suzanne, although BM did access Suzanne's Facebook that evening and sent out 23 friend requests, most of them to men. That was his effort to help prove she was alive.

MOO

Didn't he do that Friday night? The friend requests IMO were accidental. Guessing he doesn't know how to operate Facebook. I suspect he was trying to find out who Suze was talking to...

I'm pretty sure Suzanne told JL she wasn't leaving Barry for him, she was leaving Barry for herself....

I suspect Barry was in search of competition to eliminate, reminiscent of that confrontation back in high school. IMO it's what Barry saw on Saturday morning via trail cams or the missing mini cam that sent him into a methodical rage.

He may have witnessed Suzanne looking joyful, youthful, happy, carefree, alive and not with him.

How many times have we seen that unfold? -- if I can't have her....

Barry turned it one more revolution.

He said it to Grusing, not even veiled -- his confession IMO and proof he was well aware, not just that she was talking to someone but that he'd lost her for good (she was resolute) -- if she wouldn't have him, he was done with her.

No one leaves Barry.

A tranq dart wasn't even ingenious. It's what he'd done, hundreds of time...

Probably broke a sweat digging into the Moffat soil, oh Suzanne...

IMO he still doesn't think it was his fault.

JMO

 

[mrjitty]

Which makes me wonder if there was another vehicle, one in need of a working battery...

A neighbor with a long dead car, parked as undrivable, might never even wonder...

If he disconnected the battery merely to remove the fuse (very plausible), when did he replace it?

It's a sad thought, heaped like a bramble of crap on a flat bed trailer of sad thoughts, that he'd transport Suzanne's lifeless body in his daughter's RR...

That's cold. But we already knew that.

JMO

I think there are likely answers to some of these things but because the BERLA expert never testified, we don't know. I suspect he could partially disable telematics because for instance, the telematics are missing on Friday pm in his driveway, and firstly thing saturday am.

But they could also be 'missing' in that IE didn't exhibit them for some reason.

I also think in the original theory of the case, this stuff didn't matter - but now it potentially does matter quite a lot. Would we see an expert on Ford telematics/digital systems for example.

 

[girlhasnoname]

Didn't he do that Friday night? The friend requests IMO were accidentally as also IMO he doesn't probably know how to operate Facebook. I suspect he was trying to find out who Suze was talking to...

I'm pretty sure Suzanne told JL she wasn't leaving Barry for him, she was leaving Barry for herself....

I suspect Barry was in search of competition to eliminate, reminiscent of that confrontation back in high school. IMO it's what Barry saw on Saturday morning via trail cams or the missing mini cam that sent him into a methodical rage.

He may have witnessed Suzanne, looking joyful, youthful, happy, carefree, alive and not with him.

How many times have we seen that unfold -- if I can't have her....

Barry turned it one more revolution.

He said it to Grusing, not even veiled -- his confession IMO and proof he was well aware, not just that she was talking to someone but that he'd lost her for good (she was resolute) -- if she wouldn't have him, he was done with her.

No one leaves Barry.

A tranq dart wasn't even ingenious. It's what he'd done, hundreds of time...

Probably broke a sweat digging into the Moffat soil, oh Suzanne...

IMO he still doesn't think it was his fault.

JMO

It was sometime Saturday night according to the Denvergazette timeline:

Saturday, May 9:​

Morning
Suzanne texted Libler “we need to be husband and wife” in one of 59 text messages exchanged between the two that day.
11:30 a.m.
Barry came home for lunch and left to change the blade to his Bobcat.
2:07 p.m.
Suzanne sent a selfie to Libler. It is the last known moment that she was alive.
2:42-2:44 p.m.
Barry returned home and his phone showed that he was moving around outside of the house. In an interview months later, he explained to prosecutors that he was shooting chipmunks.
6:40-6:48 pm
Oliver, told investigators she tried to reach Suzanne that day sending three Snapchat messages between 6:40 and 6:48 pm with no luck.
9:24 – 9:52 p.m.
Telematics showed that the doors of Barry Morphew’s truck opened and closed over and over.
9:25 p.m.
Telematics showed the gears went into reverse. The truck backed 96 feet to the edge of the driveway.

Sometime that night
Suzanne’s Facebook codes were reset and people started friending her there. She gained 23 total friends from Indiana, 20 of whom were men.

 

[charminglane]

My wish is that there are traces of spa chemicals on Suzanne's remains or in the soil.
3 years and weather may have washed away all traces, but it's my hope.

 

[Elliot_Alderson]

I drop into this thread every now and again to simply remind you all that BM is an asshat and a stupid idiot. JMO