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If the sheets are gone, that is suspicious, but if the sheets are washed that is typical for Suzanne when guests are coming over. I believe washing sheets was also on her list. If the sheets disappear, then it's very damning for Barry.
One thing I wonder about is if the prosecution doesn't have a clear cause of death since there is no body. They may have hesitated to put out an exact story so that as they continue to investigate and look for her and as new leads arise they can shift that story and not be seen as presenting one thing at the PH and another at trial. I think they have time before they need to lock in a concrete story and I just hope they can find her body before then so it all will be much easier to piece together.
If the pen captured that altercation, I have no doubt it would have been played in court. It couldn’t have.
It’s defense strategy, an effort to make LE appear incompetent.
It is on topic. She did not strip the bed if she was planning to run off later that day. She was gonna do the wash but was murdered first.Thanks for the reply. You make a good point - if the sheets disappear, that alone is suspicious so if its possible to wash them and not disappear them that is a better option.
You are right, there was a to-do list (my impression) that included washing Mallory's sheets. Its very possible that Suzanne took them off the bed and this whole topic is unrelated to her disappearance.
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There could be a couple of reasons:Hope I'm doing this right.
I agree with this. If you care to go down the rabbit hole, WHY didn't the spypen capture the sound of the altercation? The simple answer seems to be that there wasn't really any altercation and this is just more innuendo by the prosecution. Perhaps this is even a distraction by the prosecution to mention something they won't bring up at trial because there is no there there. I don't know.
There are other options, of course. I read somewhere here that some of the recordings on the spypen were faint and/or difficult to hear. I would think that the altercation would be among the louder noises in the house but maybe the spypen was positioned in a way that the sound capture was poor.
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There could be a couple of reasons:
It was in a closet, in a drawer, which could have made it too quiet to activate.
The pen wasn’t turned on, so it wouldn’t have been activated by sound.
I’m of course open to this occurring in a different location, but it doesn’t change anything for me.
I didn’t think I was bashing the judge. I merely stated that all persons bring with them personal biases based on their own life experiences. I also stated that I hope he will be able to look past his.Judge bashing on various personal grounds seems to abound here. IMO, totally based on personal prejudice. Just FYI, here's what the Colorado Office of Judicial Performance Evaluation said when they recommenced him for retention by the voters in 2016 (BBM):
"Judge Murphy is the Chief Judge of the 11th Judicial District. Besides his administrative duties in that capacity, he presides over criminal, civil and domestic matters in his courtroom. Based on the survey results of attorneys and appellate judges, Judge Murphy received an overall combined rating which exceeds the combined rating of all district judges standing for retention. Judge Murphy's overall performance rated by non-attorneys responding to the surveys was consistent with the combined rating of all district judges standing for retention. Judge Murphy was perceived by non-attorneys to be more lenient in sentencing than the combined rating of all district judges standing for retention. Judge Murphy received high marks from attorneys for his case management and application and overall knowledge of the law. Judge Murphy’s calm and respectful demeanor in the courtroom was observed by the Commission during their observations, and he received positive comments for his patience and dignity by survey respondents."
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New poster and new reader here. I hope its okay if I share some thoughts.. I skipped about 70 threads so I may be missing some key facts but here is my perspective based largely on the PH.
Regarding the PH, my understanding is that the prosecution's goal is to just barely clear the relatively low bar of probable cause. They don't need beyond-a-reasonable-doubt and don't aim for it. I think they cleared that bar. However, if you'll forgive the mixed metaphors, I would have liked to see one solid nail in the coffin. My perception is that the prosecution wood-glued the thing shut, but no nails.
Two things stood out to me that I thought could be very powerful but turned out not to be at all.
First, the broken door jamb. The door in question was the entrance to the master bedroom and the spypen was located in the bra box in the master bedroom. Clearly the prosecution is implying that Barry broke the door jamb while breaking into the room to harm Suzanne. If it happened that way the spypen should have picked up the sound. Why not play the sound in court?
Second, there was just a small implication of domestic violence, something about Barry's hand brushed against Suzanne's nose and (I think) caused it to bleed. Again, clearly the prosecution is trying to make this a big deal and implying there was more to the story. Is that all they have, though? If that is the best evidence of DV then I'm sorry, its poor. If the prosecution has more, why leave it at innuendo rather than present a more clear-cut example?
There are a few allegations that I have read on WS for which I haven't seen evidence (again, I skipped a lot) and that no evidence was presented at the PH. This leads me to believe the allegations are false. These include: 1) Barry cheating on Suzanne, 2) domestic violence (except the above), 3) money problems in the marriage.
There are also a few allegations that were disputed in the media and/or on WS and I think we have clear evidence that they are factual. 1) Suzanne's affair, 2) Suzanne wanted to sell the Indiana house, 3) spying within the marriage, though it went the opposite way as expected.
There remain many open questions. 1) Chlorine - its not crazy to me that the smell in the hotel room was from the pool but I also wonder about the empty bottles in the Range Rover. Undecided. 2) Tranquilizer dart - I understand the theory but it seems like more work than is necessary to do the job, especially for a premeditated murder. Why complicate the action in that way? Maybe there was some grand plan that went wrong? I don't know. 3) No DNA and no blood anywhere - Yes, I've seen every episode of CSI twice so count me in as having high expectations of the prosecution in this area but, seriously, none? That sucks. 4) Mallory's sheets - At first I thought they were used to transport the body, but they were found in the house. What sort of evidence could have been on the sheets but that a person would reliably believe would be washed away? Tranquilizer serum? If there was evidence, why not disappear the sheets along with the body, just in case? I cannot connect this dot.
Before you all call me names, yes, I can see that there are a lot of questionable points about Barry's story. I might be able to believe 1, or 2, or 3 of the points but taken together its difficult. I haven't heard enough to convict him but, again, I don't understand that to be the point of the PH.
I welcome feedback on the above and will respond if its civil and fact-based, as I understand that to be the reason WS exists.
I will not argue pure speculation nor will I will answer criticism that I'm not sufficiently anti-Barry. I don't understand that stuff to be the reason WS exists.
Thank you for letting me share my thoughts.
I'm not sure but this whole BM family dynamics reminds my of that song the The scorpions use to play. I can't remember the name. IMOWere the daughters still at home when the "I'm done" text was sent? Wondering if she told her daughters she was done? That might not sit well with BM. JMO.
Absolutely! Recalling prior cases, the AA should be loaded with hundreds of texts messages. SM's voice as if directly from the grave. MOOI think her wedding friend will have quite a lot of insight into it and very well could be the reason the AA was sealed (because of what she knows)
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Wouldn't that be priceless? But not worth the consequences unless they have a nice spot to hide already picked out South of the Border.I can't imagine putting it away in a box and then the box in a closet and not turning it off. She wasn't using it as alarm.
I have thought throughout this closed audio/video PH wouldn't the ultimate irony be if someone attended with a spy pen
As to the witness that you seem to want to require to come to court, I think it is a tremendous stress on all of those individuals and not at all traditional to interrupt witnesses' lives at this stage in the proceedings. The Judge has their statements as part of the 4Tb of evidence.
Thank you for mentioning the friend with the Indiana wedding. Speculation was that Suzanne's last, interrupted conversation was with this friend. Based on the PH, it sounds like the interrupted conversation was with the lover. Did anyone interpret things differently?
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