Hair of the Dog
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Thanks @Hair of the Dog. Still a couple of more weeks on the road, but hope to have more cell service/Internet.Glad to see you back @OldCop, you have been missed.
Thanks @OldCop, that timeline makes it a lot easier to theorize how this all went down. Jumping off of this:Hello All, sorry I haven’t contributed lately. Have been off the grid on a long planned road trip. Due to COVID, most accommodations are backwoods cabins with no cell service or internet. When I do manage to get online, it’s mostly to check mail, messages, and to pay bills. Then, if I am lucky, I try to catch up with this case. I can’t believe how much new info has come out in the last couple of weeks. I dared not make any comments until I read all the threads. To keep myself occupied, I fiddled with the timeline of just Saturday and Sunday, May 9th and 10th. I did this based on the facts that we have as of now from LE and MSM. Because my background is in Intelligence and analysis, it is always easier for me to “see” a timeline in black and white so I can visualize how things happen chronologically and to also see where there are holes that need to be plugged. When I started out, we used to draw these out by hand. Now you just have to plug in the data and the computer draws it for you.
Saturday 5/9/20
A.M.:
BM & MG at Salida Dig Site (see below) working on the beach area
11:00 a.m.:
BM tells MG to go home. He tells her he has to go home to make wife “happy” and take her hiking or biking. It is not known how long BM stayed at the site after MG left.
12:30 p.m. :
SM is talking with BFF on a message app or FB when suddenly she stops replying.
Afternoon, exact time unknown:
BM contacts JP and hires him for a Bloomfield job on Sunday. According to JP, this was an in person meeting.
MG states that BM was seen shopping around town. Unverified
11:30 p.m.:
A neighbor of a home being built in Salida hears heavy machinery running for about a half hour. BM has been hired to do prep work for a foundation pour at this site. According to MG, he is also prepping the “beach area”. This is where BM and MG were working on Saturday morning.
Sunday 5/10/20
5:00 a.m.:
BM allegedly leaves SM sleeping and heads to a job in Bloomfield, CO approximately 3 hours from his home in Maysville. The job allegedly consists of a repair to a wall that BM had completed the previous September and that had structural problems.
A.M. Exact time unknown:
BM checks into the HIE in Bloomfield.
According to MG, BM contacts her and asks her to get a crew together to head to Broomfield for the job. MG stated that BM sounded like he had the worst night of his life. ?
5:46 p.m.:
SM is reported missing by a neighbor. SM’s daughters allegedly contacted her and said they were worried because they hadn’t been able to reach their mother. Exact details are unclear, but neighbor checked the house and did not find SM but noted her car was there. According to BM in his TD interview, the neighbor then contacted him and he asked her to go back and check if her bike was there. The neighbor checked, returned home, and called BM on her landline and told him the bike was gone. BM asked her to call LE.
Approximately 6:00 p.m.:
BM started home to Maysville.
After 6:00 exact time unknown:
JP, MG, and a third worker arrived at the HIE in Broomfield. It is not clear if all 3 travelled together. JP and MG both report that there was an intense smell of chlorine in the room and several wet towels on the floor. JP stated that it looked like someone had laid down on the bed, on top of the bedspread. MG stated that the bed looked like it had been slept in and remade.
BM let workers know that he had left for a family emergency and that they were on their own. Workers allegedly found some of BM’s tools in a “hotel cart”. MG stated they looked like a bunch of tools from the back of BM’s truck. Both JP and MG indicated they had neither the correct tools nor the materials to do the job.
Approximately 6:00 p.m.:
LE arrives at the Morphew home where they are met by the neighbor who reportedly told them that SM had not returned from a bike ride.
LE begins a search.
Sometime before 9:00 p.m. :
LE allegedly finds SM’s bike down a hill about a quarter of a mile from her home. (Never verified by LE). There is no sign of SM. The Morphew home is allegedly sealed off.
Approximately 9:00 p.m.:
BM arrives home.
Would be interested in seeing if anyone has any corrections or additions they’d like to add.
Good thought, @Lyanna.The Poncha Springs Market is by the Poncha Springs Fire Dept. building - is that building still there, as the image on Googley Maps is from 2012 - was thinking maybe Barry was loitering by the Fire Dept. building also, what with being a volunteer and all, he may have been able to have access and 'borrow' and later return something?
ETA building was there in 2018
Hello All, sorry I haven’t contributed lately. Have been off the grid on a long planned road trip. Due to COVID, most accommodations are backwoods cabins with no cell service or internet. When I do manage to get online, it’s mostly to check mail, messages, and to pay bills. Then, if I am lucky, I try to catch up with this case. I can’t believe how much new info has come out in the last couple of weeks. I dared not make any comments until I read all the threads. To keep myself occupied, I fiddled with the timeline of just Saturday and Sunday, May 9th and 10th. I did this based on the facts that we have as of now from LE and MSM. Because my background is in Intelligence and analysis, it is always easier for me to “see” a timeline in black and white so I can visualize how things happen chronologically and to also see where there are holes that need to be plugged. When I started out, we used to draw these out by hand. Now you just have to plug in the data and the computer draws it for you.
Saturday 5/9/20
A.M.:
BM & MG at Salida Dig Site (see below) working on the beach area
11:00 a.m.:
BM tells MG to go home. He tells her he has to go home to make wife “happy” and take her hiking or biking. It is not known how long BM stayed at the site after MG left.
12:30 p.m. :
SM is talking with BFF on a message app or FB when suddenly she stops replying.
Afternoon, exact time unknown:
BM contacts JP and hires him for a Bloomfield job on Sunday. According to JP, this was an in person meeting.
MG states that BM was seen shopping around town. Unverified
11:30 p.m.:
A neighbor of a home being built in Salida hears heavy machinery running for about a half hour. BM has been hired to do prep work for a foundation pour at this site. According to MG, he is also prepping the “beach area”. This is where BM and MG were working on Saturday morning.
Sunday 5/10/20
5:00 a.m.:
BM allegedly leaves SM sleeping and heads to a job in Bloomfield, CO approximately 3 hours from his home in Maysville. The job allegedly consists of a repair to a wall that BM had completed the previous September and that had structural problems.
A.M. Exact time unknown:
BM checks into the HIE in Bloomfield.
According to MG, BM contacts her and asks her to get a crew together to head to Broomfield for the job. MG stated that BM sounded like he had the worst night of his life. ?
5:46 p.m.:
SM is reported missing by a neighbor. SM’s daughters allegedly contacted her and said they were worried because they hadn’t been able to reach their mother. Exact details are unclear, but neighbor checked the house and did not find SM but noted her car was there. According to BM in his TD interview, the neighbor then contacted him and he asked her to go back and check if her bike was there. The neighbor checked, returned home, and called BM on her landline and told him the bike was gone. BM asked her to call LE.
Approximately 6:00 p.m.:
BM started home to Maysville.
After 6:00 exact time unknown:
JP, MG, and a third worker arrived at the HIE in Broomfield. It is not clear if all 3 travelled together. JP and MG both report that there was an intense smell of chlorine in the room and several wet towels on the floor. JP stated that it looked like someone had laid down on the bed, on top of the bedspread. MG stated that the bed looked like it had been slept in and remade.
BM let workers know that he had left for a family emergency and that they were on their own. Workers allegedly found some of BM’s tools in a “hotel cart”. MG stated they looked like a bunch of tools from the back of BM’s truck. Both JP and MG indicated they had neither the correct tools nor the materials to do the job.
Approximately 6:00 p.m.:
LE arrives at the Morphew home where they are met by the neighbor who reportedly told them that SM had not returned from a bike ride.
LE begins a search.
Sometime before 9:00 p.m. :
LE allegedly finds SM’s bike down a hill about a quarter of a mile from her home. (Never verified by LE). There is no sign of SM. The Morphew home is allegedly sealed off.
Approximately 9:00 p.m.:
BM arrives home.
Would be interested in seeing if anyone has any corrections or additions they’d like to add.
You’re absolutely right, @MassGuy. First reports stated she had been texting into early evening with her friend. If that were the case, it may even point towards premeditation since he sought out JP for the Broomfield job Saturday afternoon. Setting up an alibi?Thanks @OldCop, that timeline makes it a lot easier to theorize how this all went down. Jumping off of this:
I think something that we all need to be careful of is that 12:30 last text. I think we’ve all based our theories around that being accurate.
We don’t know where Andy got this information from though, and unless it’s from Suzanne’s friend herself, I think it’s a good idea not to take this as fact.
Just imagine what our theories would look like if that time moved.
Cant help but think that BM was at that late night job because he needed a piece of equipment from the jobsite to use in body disposal? mooHello All, sorry I haven’t contributed lately. Have been off the grid on a long planned road trip. Due to COVID, most accommodations are backwoods cabins with no cell service or internet. When I do manage to get online, it’s mostly to check mail, messages, and to pay bills. Then, if I am lucky, I try to catch up with this case. I can’t believe how much new info has come out in the last couple of weeks. I dared not make any comments until I read all the threads. To keep myself occupied, I fiddled with the timeline of just Saturday and Sunday, May 9th and 10th. I did this based on the facts that we have as of now from LE and MSM. Because my background is in Intelligence and analysis, it is always easier for me to “see” a timeline in black and white so I can visualize how things happen chronologically and to also see where there are holes that need to be plugged. When I started out, we used to draw these out by hand. Now you just have to plug in the data and the computer draws it for you.
Saturday 5/9/20
A.M.:
BM & MG at Salida Dig Site (see below) working on the beach area
11:00 a.m.:
BM tells MG to go home. He tells her he has to go home to make wife “happy” and take her hiking or biking. It is not known how long BM stayed at the site after MG left.
12:30 p.m. :
SM is talking with BFF on a message app or FB when suddenly she stops replying.
Afternoon, exact time unknown:
BM contacts JP and hires him for a Bloomfield job on Sunday. According to JP, this was an in person meeting.
MG states that BM was seen shopping around town. Unverified
11:30 p.m.:
A neighbor of a home being built in Salida hears heavy machinery running for about a half hour. BM has been hired to do prep work for a foundation pour at this site. According to MG, he is also prepping the “beach area”. This is where BM and MG were working on Saturday morning.
Sunday 5/10/20
5:00 a.m.:
BM allegedly leaves SM sleeping and heads to a job in Bloomfield, CO approximately 3 hours from his home in Maysville. The job allegedly consists of a repair to a wall that BM had completed the previous September and that had structural problems.
A.M. Exact time unknown:
BM checks into the HIE in Bloomfield.
According to MG, BM contacts her and asks her to get a crew together to head to Broomfield for the job. MG stated that BM sounded like he had the worst night of his life. ?
5:46 p.m.:
SM is reported missing by a neighbor. SM’s daughters allegedly contacted her and said they were worried because they hadn’t been able to reach their mother. Exact details are unclear, but neighbor checked the house and did not find SM but noted her car was there. According to BM in his TD interview, the neighbor then contacted him and he asked her to go back and check if her bike was there. The neighbor checked, returned home, and called BM on her landline and told him the bike was gone. BM asked her to call LE.
Approximately 6:00 p.m.:
BM started home to Maysville.
After 6:00 exact time unknown:
JP, MG, and a third worker arrived at the HIE in Broomfield. It is not clear if all 3 travelled together. JP and MG both report that there was an intense smell of chlorine in the room and several wet towels on the floor. JP stated that it looked like someone had laid down on the bed, on top of the bedspread. MG stated that the bed looked like it had been slept in and remade.
BM let workers know that he had left for a family emergency and that they were on their own. Workers allegedly found some of BM’s tools in a “hotel cart”. MG stated they looked like a bunch of tools from the back of BM’s truck. Both JP and MG indicated they had neither the correct tools nor the materials to do the job.
Approximately 6:00 p.m.:
LE arrives at the Morphew home where they are met by the neighbor who reportedly told them that SM had not returned from a bike ride.
LE begins a search.
Sometime before 9:00 p.m. :
LE allegedly finds SM’s bike down a hill about a quarter of a mile from her home. (Never verified by LE). There is no sign of SM. The Morphew home is allegedly sealed off.
Approximately 9:00 p.m.:
BM arrives home.
Would be interested in seeing if anyone has any corrections or additions they’d like to add.
Good catch, @Iwondertoo. After we get a bunch of corrections/additions , I’ll repost with everyone’s input.Thanks for putting this together. I pretty much agree except for this -
11:00 a.m.:
BM tells MG to go home. He tells her he has to go home to make wife “happy” and take her hiking or biking. It is not known how long BM stayed at the site after MG left.
I believe MG stated during an interview with LS that BM had picked her up to go to work Saturday morning.
He more than likely left the job site at the river at the same time as MG in order to drive her home.
Around 11:00 am.
Really good to see you back and thanks for the clear timeline.Good catch, @Iwondertoo. After we get a bunch of corrections/additions , I’ll repost with everyone’s input.
Thanks!
This is it! This makes absolute sense!Re: Poncha Market
The market is located just south of the intersection of 50 and 285. BM would pass by this intersection if it was he who was running the machinery at 11:30 p.m.at the Salida dig site, both coming and going. He would also pass this intersection on Sunday morning shortly after 5:00 a.m. when he allegedly left for Broomfield and also on his way home. At both times the market would have been closed. Did he drop some evidence in the trash there? He truly believed the bike story would be embraced by LE and there would be no reason for them to be searching trash receptacles in the area for evidence left by Barry.
Tuesday evening may have been his first opportunity to get away by himself since SM was reported missing. Did he go there then to retrieve what he had left there? Or did he go there to hide some evidence that night? I think he knew the market would be closed. He did not expect that there would still be employees on site. He was probably startled when the young man confronted him. Since biking had been on his mind, he stated the first thing he thought of; he was looking for a bike helmet. After the employee went back inside, BM probably thought he should give them a better explanation. He tapped on the window and asked if they had seen his wife. When they asked for a description, he wrote that pathetic note.
I think he felt that if they did report it, it would just prove he was desperately looking for his wife.
MOO
I also think there's a possibility that BM called in a recruit or three and I also think they might've been there during the murder.You’re absolutely right, @MassGuy. First reports stated she had been texting into early evening with her friend. If that were the case, it may even point towards premeditation since he sought out JP for the Broomfield job Saturday afternoon. Setting up an alibi?
Then there’s the later “unusual texts”. Those I do think were Barry’s; making believe he was Suzanne.
A lot has been discussed concerning the texts/messages and the sudden cutoff. Some folks theorize that he wouldn’t kill her in the middle of a conversation, but what if she had gotten up to make a cup of coffee or gone to the bathroom while waiting for a reply herself. BM may have confronted her not realizing she was mid conversation. Later, when he was cleaning up and saw her phone and saw her bff sending repeated messages, he figured he needed to try and reply. MOO, of course.
Of course if it was her texting until 8:00 or so that night, that’s a really tight timeline for him to do what he needs to do.
Thanks for putting this together. I pretty much agree except for this -
11:00 a.m.:
BM tells MG to go home. He tells her he has to go home to make wife “happy” and take her hiking or biking. It is not known how long BM stayed at the site after MG left.
I believe MG stated during an interview with LS that BM had picked her up to go to work Saturday morning.
He more than likely left the job site at the river at the same time as MG in order to drive her home.
Around 11:00 am.
Thanks @OldCop, that timeline makes it a lot easier to theorize how this all went down. Jumping off of this:
I think something that we all need to be careful of is that 12:30 last text. I think we’ve all based our theories around that being accurate.
We don’t know where Andy got this information from though, and unless it’s from Suzanne’s friend herself, I think it’s a good idea not to take this as fact.
Just imagine what our theories would look like if that time (or day) moved.
Hello All, sorry I haven’t contributed lately. Have been off the grid on a long planned road trip. Due to COVID, most accommodations are backwoods cabins with no cell service or internet. When I do manage to get online, it’s mostly to check mail, messages, and to pay bills. Then, if I am lucky, I try to catch up with this case. I can’t believe how much new info has come out in the last couple of weeks. I dared not make any comments until I read all the threads. To keep myself occupied, I fiddled with the timeline of just Saturday and Sunday, May 9th and 10th. I did this based on the facts that we have as of now from LE and MSM. Because my background is in Intelligence and analysis, it is always easier for me to “see” a timeline in black and white so I can visualize how things happen chronologically and to also see where there are holes that need to be plugged. When I started out, we used to draw these out by hand. Now you just have to plug in the data and the computer draws it for you.
Saturday 5/9/20
A.M.:
BM & MG at Salida Dig Site (see below) working on the beach area
11:00 a.m.:
BM tells MG to go home. He tells her he has to go home to make wife “happy” and take her hiking or biking. It is not known how long BM stayed at the site after MG left.
12:30 p.m. :
SM is talking with BFF on a message app or FB when suddenly she stops replying.
Afternoon, exact time unknown:
BM contacts JP and hires him for a Bloomfield job on Sunday. According to JP, this was an in person meeting.
MG states that BM was seen shopping around town. Unverified
11:30 p.m.:
A neighbor of a home being built in Salida hears heavy machinery running for about a half hour. BM has been hired to do prep work for a foundation pour at this site. According to MG, he is also prepping the “beach area”. This is where BM and MG were working on Saturday morning.
Sunday 5/10/20
5:00 a.m.:
BM allegedly leaves SM sleeping and heads to a job in Bloomfield, CO approximately 3 hours from his home in Maysville. The job allegedly consists of a repair to a wall that BM had completed the previous September and that had structural problems.
A.M. Exact time unknown:
BM checks into the HIE in Bloomfield.
According to MG, BM contacts her and asks her to get a crew together to head to Broomfield for the job. MG stated that BM sounded like he had the worst night of his life. ?
5:46 p.m.:
SM is reported missing by a neighbor. SM’s daughters allegedly contacted her and said they were worried because they hadn’t been able to reach their mother. Exact details are unclear, but neighbor checked the house and did not find SM but noted her car was there. According to BM in his TD interview, the neighbor then contacted him and he asked her to go back and check if her bike was there. The neighbor checked, returned home, and called BM on her landline and told him the bike was gone. BM asked her to call LE.
Approximately 6:00 p.m.:
BM started home to Maysville.
After 6:00 exact time unknown:
JP, MG, and a third worker arrived at the HIE in Broomfield. It is not clear if all 3 travelled together. JP and MG both report that there was an intense smell of chlorine in the room and several wet towels on the floor. JP stated that it looked like someone had laid down on the bed, on top of the bedspread. MG stated that the bed looked like it had been slept in and remade.
BM let workers know that he had left for a family emergency and that they were on their own. Workers allegedly found some of BM’s tools in a “hotel cart”. MG stated they looked like a bunch of tools from the back of BM’s truck. Both JP and MG indicated they had neither the correct tools nor the materials to do the job.
Approximately 6:00 p.m.:
LE arrives at the Morphew home where they are met by the neighbor who reportedly told them that SM had not returned from a bike ride.
LE begins a search.
Sometime before 9:00 p.m. :
LE allegedly finds SM’s bike down a hill about a quarter of a mile from her home. (Never verified by LE). There is no sign of SM. The Morphew home is allegedly sealed off.
Approximately 9:00 p.m.:
BM arrives home.
Would be interested in seeing if anyone has any corrections or additions they’d like to add.
@OldCop nice to see you back!!
I wanted to add this to your time. All from MG interview:
°Tuesday morning MG and crew came back to Salida, after waiting for bricks that never arrived.
°Tuesday, two days after SM became missing 2 men approach her, one a friend of Barry's, and one a family member.
°MG hadn't been paid yet. These 2 men talk to her about her check, hush money and the right she has not to turn over her phone. (And whatever else they talked about).
°MG turns her phone over to LE
"°Tuesday morning MG and crew came back to Salida, after waiting for bricks that never arrived."
A proud and ageless industry-certification required .Masonry Certification
Building Division Home Page | City and County of Broomfield - Official Website
retaining wall policy.....
Retaining wall policy
IMO There would have to be a "invoice" for delivery of brick documented from a masonry supply house or a internal work order from the general contractor who could also deliver the bricks. The bricks must match the wall , and I would think the wall specifications would require an inspection -both on initial install-and especially any repair made. If this was state money used to construct this wall near some highway to my understanding- this repair would not even be allowed -( putting workers on state property with traffic a concern) without documented liability and documented workers comp.
I think a "performance bond" needs to be put up, based on the cost of the "wall job" guaranteeing it will be done right. If the wall indeed failed under warranty- why call back a contractor to repair a wall he screwed up and wait so long for him to find time when contractor could easily Tap the performance bond money and hire a reputable masonry contractor . Could it be because inspection was not proper and that current sub-contractor knew it and they had to wait for him to repair it or get their methods exposed? Does't add up so far.
That said we turn to the laying of the brick. Bricklaying is a apprenticable trade, and I wonder how the usual suspect was initially qualified to erect a wall based on what we have learned about his degree.
Again, why call the initial wall erector back to fix when the bond could be tapped to correct his "crooked wall" Who was the "journeyman bricklayer" Morgan? Cassidy?- was it Pruitt - a new hire? If Pruitt was not a journeyman bricklayer- why him? And why meet and hire him in person on Sat ( I believe i just read) Or was Pruitt with the usual suspect to do other on Sat if they indeed met in person ? Lastly not sure if Morgan found Pruitt or not. If any of my suspicions pan out- you can bet L.E. knows the wall "thingy" is b.s.-imo Motown
°BM fires MG