Found Deceased CO - Suzanne Morphew, 49, did not return from bike ride, Chaffee County, 10 May 2020 #42

[Orgona]

Ita.

About that helmet... let's say that an abductor took her from the home -- she wouldn't be wearing it then.
So why would the random perp take time to get this helmet out of the garage/mud room and throw it by the road ?
And LE have never touted the bike ride theory.

Even if kidnapped whilst on her bike-- would the abductor risk getting their prints on the helmet ?
So, wouldn't a kidnapper/murderer be wearing gloves so as not to leave prints ?

I've never tried getting a bike helmet off with any kinds of gloves on--from cold weather thick fuzzy gloves to the disposable food prep gloves I use in my kitchen.

ITA. Let’s say I want to abduct someone from the house and the person is wearing a bike helmet. I would need to disable them by some method. I could do it with some chemicals I brought with me just in case or I could try to knock that person unconscious which with a bike helmet on seems already more difficult or use a weapon. Next thing would be to place that person into the boot of my car or in the cargo of my van as I wouldn’t want this person to visibly raise alarm while on the road. It doesn’t make sense to go and take the bike too. Why would I do that? Unless I would want to use it/sell it/gift it. But why would I dispose of it then close to the home? And dispose of the helmet somewhere else too.
ITA with the opening of the lock on the straps of the helmet with gloves. That’s PIA

 

[rainbowshummingbird]

If it had been a home invasion about money, why were there no signs of robbery?

I agree with your thought that if there were DV, “someone with SMs inner strength doesn’t stay in that marriage, nor would girls support abusive BM.”

That is one reason to consider why she may have been killed. She was trying to finally leave.

jmo

I don’t believe there is one specific type of person who suffers abuse. Victims of abuse are found in all demographics and personality types.

 

[Feistyomi]

And, why would home invaders take the time to stage a bike scene?

IMO , they expected to find all family members there, maybe they didn’t have a plan B, they just figured they’d get rid of Suzanne, she could have been in process of going on bike ride and aha, biking accident or abduction...IMO

I picture at least 2 perps, with a “plan”, that falls apart, when only Suzanne is home. So they improvise, and they throw home invasion completely away, because it needed family. MOO

Part of that home invasion plan could have actually been to frame BM, familicide/suicide, kept that part.

I fully expected her body to be found this past week, and I continue to question, all evidence seemed to point to BM, yet LE did not find such evidence before now...extensive searches at the beginning involved a lot of different teams, THEY all missed it?!
That’s a big puzzle piece to me.
this is speculation, JMO...

 

[Megnut]

I agree. He had plenty of time to hunt and play fireman. I wonder if that was on weekends or weekdays. I think he left Suzanne alone a lot. She probably tired of it. JMO

If there was DV in the home, I bet life was a lot more pleasant when he wasn't home. That Saturday, he was supposed to be at work in Salida all day, at least MG said she expected to work all day. And that would gave freed Suzanne up, for messaging her friend all blessed day long! The trouble didn't start when he left the house (for work, for hunting, for firefightering); the trouble started when he came home. Because IMO he's the trouble.

JMO

 

[EggSalad]

Maybe he accidentally hit her with the truck on his way back to the house and didn’t notice, didn’t find her home, noticed damage to truck, went looking but it was too late to save her so he covered it up.

Are you suggesting BM was driving really fast in reverse on Puma Path? And rather than call an ambulance (heck, his a vol FF and should have cpr skills) he decided to go full fledged cover up?

 

[EggSalad]

IMO , they expected to find all family members there, maybe they didn’t have a plan B, they just figured they’d get rid of Suzanne, she could have been in process of going on bike ride and aha, biking accident or abduction...IMO

I picture at least 2 perps, with a “plan”, that falls apart, when only Suzanne is home. So they improvise, and they throw home invasion completely away, because it needed family. MOO

Part of that home invasion plan could have actually been to frame BM, familicide/suicide, kept that part.

I fully expected her body to be found this past week, and I continue to question, all evidence seemed to point to BM, yet LE did not find such evidence before now...extensive searches at the beginning involved a lot of different teams, THEY all missed it?!
That’s a big puzzle piece to me.
this is speculation, JMO...

So in this theory, the murder happens on Sunday right?

So why does SM’s communication stop on Saturday?

 

[ivegotthemic]

I don’t believe there is one specific type of person who suffers abuse. Victims of abuse are found in all demographics and personality types.

I second this and other forms of abuse like mental are alot harder to detect, its more subtle and more insidious and when it happens the abuser usually gaslights the person into thinking its there fault. When someone you genuinely care for treats you this way it can be hard to see it when your so close up

 

[Orgona]

Maybe he accidentally hit her with the truck on his way back to the house and didn’t notice, didn’t find her home, noticed damage to truck, went looking but it was too late to save her so he covered it up.

Well, I can’t imagine you could hit someone without noticing it unless you are totally hammered... In that case the bike would have obvious damage on the wheel he hit, there would be obvious scratches and misforming of the frame. I actually suspect this is the reason LE knew really fast there wasn’t a bike ride to begin with.

 

[ChuckMaureen]

What follows is MOO... and with quite a bit of Occam's Razor applied, so, here it is:

Why is the bike ride not considered a likely scenario? Which CCSO statements and/or known discovered evidence indicates the bike ride theory as bogus?

The bike recovered down a steep hill along SM's assumed-typical bike route is fully simpatico with a roadbed abduction.

SPECULATION:

SM was riding along the road, wearing typical biking clothing (including helmet) and a vehicle approached to her immediate position, from either behind her or toward her and... in an instant the vehicle stopped. One or more perps exited the vehicle, they grabbed SM off the bike and one perp placed and held SM inside the vehicle.

Of course SM was still wearing the helmet, it was strapped on. Even a struggle likely wouldn't have dislodged the helmet since they're designed to remain on a head during a crash.

The perps had no desire to take the bike (it wasn't their target) so the second perp performed a quick bike toss into the ravine: it was then out of immediate site. That perp returned to the vehicle and off they went. They've driven away from the scene.

SM did not cooperate nicely, perhaps. The helmet had become quite the nuisance in the struggle so perp #1 managed to remove the helmet and toss it from the vehicle.

Perp's intent: sexual assault. It may have been an unplanned crime of opportunity or maybe the perps knew SM bike ride schedule. Either is possible.

What some perceive or have described as 'odd' or 'weird' regarding BM's behavior... it's reasonably explainable in light of the fact that the "love of his life" has gone missing and he doesn't know what happened.


I haven't yet discounted this theory.

 

[Feistyomi]

So in this theory, the murder happens on Sunday right?

So why does SM’s communication stop on Saturday?

IMO, yes, Sunday. when do most family’s actually celebrate? Lunch/ Brunch? Morphews, likely around church service, lunch afterwards... be nice if their church website had record of visitors...

 

[EggSalad]

What follows is MOO... and with quite a bit of Occam's Razor applied, so, here it is:

Why is the bike ride not considered a likely scenario? Which CCSO statements and/or known discovered evidence indicates the bike ride theory as bogus?

The bike recovered down a steep hill along SM's assumed-typical bike route is fully simpatico with a roadbed abduction.

SPECULATION:

SM was riding along the road, wearing typical biking clothing (including helmet) and a vehicle approached to her immediate position, from either behind her or toward her and... in an instant the vehicle stopped. One or more perps exited the vehicle, they grabbed SM off the bike and one perp placed and held SM inside the vehicle.

Of course SM was still wearing the helmet, it was strapped on. Even a struggle likely wouldn't have dislodged the helmet since they're designed to remain on a head during a crash.

The perps had no desire to take the bike (it wasn't their target) so the second perp performed a quick bike toss into the ravine: it was then out of immediate site. That perp returned to the vehicle and off they went. They've driven away from the scene.

SM did not cooperate nicely, perhaps. The helmet had become quite the nuisance in the struggle so perp #1 managed to remove the helmet and toss it from the vehicle.

Perp's intent: sexual assault. It may have been an unplanned crime of opportunity or maybe the perps knew SM bike ride schedule. Either is possible.

What some perceive or have described as 'odd' or 'weird' regarding BM's behavior... it's reasonably explainable in light of the fact that the "love of his life" has gone missing and he doesn't know what happened.


I haven't yet discounted this theory.

But this theory takes place on Sunday, yet SM’s communication abruptly ends mid day on Saturday.

 

[EggSalad]

IMO, yes, Sunday. when do most family’s actually celebrate? Lunch/ Brunch? Morphews, likely around church service, lunch afterwards... be nice if their church website had record of visitors...

So why did SM’s communication stop on Saturday? And why specifically did she not answer or return any of the daughters communications?

 

[ChuckMaureen]

But this theory takes place on Sunday, yet SM’s communication abruptly ends mid day on Saturday.

We have no idea IF nor WHY communication actually ended (with the friend) at this point... nothing regarding this from LE AFAIK. The context or maybe timing of that communication may have caused SM to want or need to halt it. Who knows. Simple possibilities.

Regarding the daughter's communication... we know cellular service is spotty in that location, especially since SM was on the move we have no idea the quality of the service coverage along the assumed bike route.

 

[Boxer]

Next hope, hunting season.
MOO she won't be too far from some kind of vehicle access.

 

[Feistyomi]

What follows is MOO... and with quite a bit of Occam's Razor applied, so, here it is:

Why is the bike ride not considered a likely scenario? Which CCSO statements and/or known discovered evidence indicates the bike ride theory as bogus?

The bike recovered down a steep hill along SM's assumed-typical bike route is fully simpatico with a roadbed abduction.

SPECULATION:

SM was riding along the road, wearing typical biking clothing (including helmet) and a vehicle approached to her immediate position, from either behind her or toward her and... in an instant the vehicle stopped. One or more perps exited the vehicle, they grabbed SM off the bike and one perp placed and held SM inside the vehicle.

Of course SM was still wearing the helmet, it was strapped on. Even a struggle likely wouldn't have dislodged the helmet since they're designed to remain on a head during a crash.

The perps had no desire to take the bike (it wasn't their target) so the second perp performed a quick bike toss into the ravine: it was then out of immediate site. That perp returned to the vehicle and off they went. They've driven away from the scene.

SM did not cooperate nicely, perhaps. The helmet had become quite the nuisance in the struggle so perp #1 managed to remove the helmet and toss it from the vehicle.

Perp's intent: sexual assault. It may have been an unplanned crime of opportunity or maybe the perps knew SM bike ride schedule. Either is possible.

What some perceive or have described as 'odd' or 'weird' regarding BM's behavior... it's reasonably explainable in light of the fact that the "love of his life" has gone missing and he doesn't know what happened.


I haven't yet discounted this theory.

ITA, Most of BMs few comments and actions can be explained using these frameworks... separately and in some combination.
I’m finding it interesting that most of the misinformation we attributed to BM may actually have originated from another source...MOO
I would not like to wrestle w/ someone wearing a bike helmet. Even if they took it off, she could have used it as a weapon, get rid of it. I believe they had gloves on the entire time of the attack.
My speculation.

 

[ChuckMaureen]

To note: I also have not discounted the possibility that a certain someone could be responsible for SM's disappearance. At this point, what we think we know might lean more toward this particular scenario but I'm not there yet. I need more. Apparently, so does LE.

 

[ChuckMaureen]

bbm

ITA, Most of BMs few comments and actions can be explained using these frameworks... separately and in some combination.
I’m finding it interesting that most of the misinformation we attributed to BM may actually have originated from another source...MOO
I would not like to wrestle w/ someone wearing a bike helmet. Even if they took it off, she could have used it as a weapon, get rid of it. I believe they had gloves on the entire time of the attack.
My speculation.

That might suggest premeditation, as if they were looking for trouble and purposefully found it in SM's scheduled bike ride. If no prints, it's possible.

 

[TKG]

It IS for profiling of serial offenders.

The point was to apply the same idea towards a disposal site, with the variables/formula modified accordingly. Geographic profiling has data points. The point was to use “known data points” here as well. I apologize I wasn’t more clear in the original post.

Carry on

(eta: WS link re: Geographic Profiling / see my links/comments re: Rossmo, “THE HOUND OF THE DATA POINTS“, Nigel software, etc.:
Geographic Profiling )

I like the way you're thinking. Regardless of what it was designed to do, if it lends some insight, i'm all for it!

 

[EggSalad]

We have no idea IF nor WHY communication actually ended (with the friend) at this point... nothing regarding this from LE AFAIK. The context or maybe timing of that communication may have caused SM to want or need to halt it. Who knows. Simple possibilities.

Regarding the daughter's communication... we know cellular service is spotty in that location, especially since SM was on the move we have no idea the quality of the service coverage along the assumed bike route.

We have no idea IF nor WHY communication actually ended (with the friend) at this point... nothing regarding this from LE AFAIK. The context or maybe timing of that communication may have caused SM to want or need to halt it. Who knows. Simple possibilities.

Regarding the daughter's communication... we know cellular service is spotty in that location, especially since SM was on the move we have no idea the quality of the service coverage along the assumed bike route.

“Phone records show her cell activity stopped the previous day, May 9, after she sent text messages to a friend whose wedding plans were disrupted by pandemic restrictions.”


Brother of missing Indiana native Suzanne Morphew leading volunteer search expedition - WISH-TV | Indianapolis News | Indiana Weather | Indiana Traffic

 

[ChuckMaureen]

Regarding the scenario that a certain someone did it, are we assuming that someone had from Friday to Sunday or maybe earlier? Do we know the date of the last sighting of SM? I've not seen that info reported (as fact) IIRC.