Found Deceased CO - Suzanne Morphew, 49, did not return from bike ride, Chaffee County, 10 May 2020 #43

[Knox]

And if she noticed these sort of things, she would have included that information to 911 more than likely. Moo

I'm not certain this kind lady went into the house. But IMO, even if she didn't initially think something was out of order, I'm certain LE went back to her and questioned her several times.

Example; hey when you went to the house did you smell a strong odor of bleach?

The questions she was being asked would indicate LE suspected something wasn't right, JMO. In addition they probably asked her not to talk to the media.

 

[debrat007]

IF the girls originally ever were awaited for at PumaP on MD, then something cruzial to the highest grade must have happened between SM and BM. Otherwise why did BW wait with disappearing his wife until one day before the daughters would have come back home?

I hate to say it From Germany but it shows us the condition of BM’s heart (it’s all about him and what better time than when the girls were gone) and/or perhaps a crime of passion.

 

[MsBetsy]

MOO, I had the impression from that LS interview that BM was asked to offer an explanation as to why the timeline and EVI didn’t match up. BM then explained that he failed to disclose some sort of pit stop to another location... involving the bobcat. Again, wouldn’t it be helpful to hear the entire interview so that we would have context!

Yes, I thought that comment was in response to AM's statement on PE about the GPS data on his truck not lining up with BM's story. I wish we knew when this discrepancy was, and how long. Was it on Saturday or Sunday? Did it occur within the 3 1/2 hour timeframe AM keeps mentioning?

 

[Orgona]

Also, it introduces another person into the location in terms of trace evidence etc. For me, a potential "MO" can be seen with this.

For example we have a similar scenario elsewhere, with BM allegedly placing JP in the hotel room and MG at the beach site.

JMO

This could very well be the case

 

[oviedo]

If LE cannot locate Suzanne’s remains and they also cannot find a witness to turn on Barry, then what additional evidence does LE need in order to prove a case? Can LE still build a prosecutable case without remains and without a third party’s knowledge of Barry’s guilt?

I have hopes they will - Christie Wilson’s Killer was convicted of her murder when she disappeared and was seen on video with him leaving the casino in 2005 and her body was finally located on his 4 acre property this year after a tip - so yes I believe LE can build a certain circumstantial case against the killer
JMO

 

[Orgona]

It was also an opportunity to find out what the neighbor's reaction would be, i.e.

Barry, she's not there but there is a strong odor of bleach...

Why is the carpet sopping wet?

Barry, when did you rearrange the family room furniture?

MOO

Good first line test indeed

 

[Murphy1950]

Yes, I thought that comment was in response to AM's statement on PE about the GPS data on his truck not lining up with BM's story. I wish we knew when this discrepancy was, and how long. Was it on Saturday or Sunday? Did it occur within the 3 1/2 hour timeframe AM keeps mentioning?

The problem with Andy's 3 1/2 hour timeframe is I believe one of those benchmarks is based on the FB messages being sent to people at midnight. It is much more likely to me that the timing is a FB algorithm and not someone actively in her account at midnight. This timeline (actually lack there of ) is a bear

 

[Janeumayer]

If LE cannot locate Suzanne’s remains and they also cannot find a witness to turn on Barry, then what additional evidence does LE need in order to prove a case? Can LE still build a prosecutable case without remains and without a third party’s knowledge of Barry’s guilt?

Yes, electronic footprints are going to be essential in this case. Cell phone, computer, EVI, Bobcat Computer data, nearby home, business and maybe toll CCTV, credit card, ATM, financial data, home alarm/surveillance system, garage keypad entry, etc. The list is endless.

ETA Not only BM’s but SM’s and/or any people close to BM involved directly or indirectly in the case.

 

[Boxer]

I completely respect your opinion. I am jaded. I am a woman who has been "talked down" to throughout my whole life just because I am female. In my own personal opinion BM seems to consider himself superior to most. I think he has little respect for women. I do not know him personally, he just reminds me of others I do know. That's why I wonder if his statement reflects this during the LS interview. I could be way off base. Its just MOO. In my mind he had a wife, daughters, mom and a female worker who he could use as tools to manipulate and control. In his mind they were weaker mentally and physically. He likes women who fall in line. All just my opinion.

* I am not bashing men. I know plenty of women who are just as manipulative, controlling and think they are far superior to everyone. I hope nobody takes offense. I do not mean to be offensive.

Agree.
You could be right.
I can easily imagine his barrage talking being to wife about a "financial thing" he had to do.

 

[Knox]

In Andy's extended interview with PE
CO - CO - Suzanne Morphew, 49, Chaffee County, 10 May 2020 , MEDIA,MAPS,TIMELINE *NO DISCUSSION*
@8:42 he says that TN or one of the kids showed up and they called 911. I always wondered why TN arrived on scene so quickly since he lives 2+ hours away. Now that @NatureLover has advised that TN's mom was part of the camping expedition and that she and BM's mom drove to CO together, it makes more sense. Where was BM's mom during this time? Did she go on the trip too or stay with TN? Were they planning to celebrate MD at BM & SM's home? Thank goodness BM was fortunate enough to have his support system so close when tragedy struck. I am not in any way implying they were complicit in SM's disappearance, I just find the timing interesting, more people dancing to Barry's tune.

MOO

Even more interesting. If Barry's Mom, sister and the girls were expected to be back at the home on Sunday. It would put a time crunch on anything he had to do to get rid of evidence and make everything at the home appear normal. Maybe Suzanne threatened to tell his Mom & Sister whatever she had discovered?

But on the flip side. If all the women, including his Mom would be at his house to celebrate Mother's Day. Why would he make arrangements to be out of town working for a few days?

 

[Knox]

Why has Barry still only made one public video appearance since his wife went missing?

It appears he does not want people to see his face? Our own WS'er Barry - has pointed this out since the beginning. It's not just odd, it's intentional.

 

[TexieLouWho21]

I have been wondering how strong physically SM may or may not have been during her treatments. Would she have been physically strong enough to ride a bike, or ride alone? Would that have been a red flag to LE?

 

[Boxer]

If LE cannot locate Suzanne’s remains and they also cannot find a witness to turn on Barry, then what additional evidence does LE need in order to prove a case? Can LE still build a prosecutable case without remains and without a third party’s knowledge of Barry’s guilt?

If they have evidence in the house, they might be able to.
But it is not ideal.
Jennifer Dulos murder took a year to be brought to charges and there was clear evidence of unsurvivable injuries.

 

[Knox]

Agree. He seems unaware that he has took on the role of a defense attorney by being a fountain of alternative theories.
By 5/11 the police and AM realized it was a human. MOO BM should have come that conclusion too.

He can't or he would be pointing to himself, IMO.

Forensic Neuropsychologist Dr. Judy Ho pointing out this very thing when she appeared on PE. She thought it was extremely odd as well.

Also, on that same show, we learn Barry is at Poncha Market the day before LE finds the "personal item". He's digging through the trash, knocks on the window, a kid opens the door and Barry asks "hey, I'm looking for a baby blue bike helmet, anyone seen one in the trash out here"?

@25:30

What is that all about and how does it fit into what we know today?

 

[Boxer]

The problem with Andy's 3 1/2 hour timeframe is I believe one of those benchmarks is based on the FB messages being sent to people at midnight. It is much more likely to me that the timing is a FB algorithm and not someone actively in her account at midnight. This timeline (actually lack there of ) is a bear

How an algorithm?
I see AM saying 'friend requests,' which I did not hear before. I thought it only 'people you may know' or 'suggestions' which are I think algorhithms.

 

[10ofRods]

He can't or he would be pointing to himself, IMO.

Forensic Neuropsychologist Dr. Judy Ho pointing out this very thing when she appeared on PE. She thought it was extremely odd as well.

Also, on that same show, we learn Barry is at Poncha Market the day before LE finds the "personal item". He's digging through the trash, knocks on the window, a kid opens the door and Barry asks "hey, I'm looking for a baby blue bike helmet, anyone seen one in the trash out here"?

@25:30

What is that all about and how does it fit into what we know today?

I'd say it's Barry's (blatant) attempt to show that he doesn't know where that baby blue helmet is.

Oddly, though, how does he know it's missing? It's as if he knows it's out there somewhere, to be found. Surely it should still be on Suzanne's head as she wanders through the woods, disoriented from her biking accident? Or found near the rest of her body parts, if a lion ate her? Or removed by her abductor - but why would an abductor throw it in the trash in Poncha? Or anywhere?

An abductor has a reason to throw a phone out the window (even smarter to throw it into the creek, so that it is damaged and possibly never found).

I've been stymied by the lack of use of metal detectors (that we know of) in this case. We didn't see them at the beach property nor the Salida lot (or at any other time - but perhaps LE was clandestine).

 

[10ofRods]

The problem with Andy's 3 1/2 hour timeframe is I believe one of those benchmarks is based on the FB messages being sent to people at midnight. It is much more likely to me that the timing is a FB algorithm and not someone actively in her account at midnight. This timeline (actually lack there of ) is a bear

Yes, I think Andy is confusing friend requests with FB's suggest friends feature. I can see how that happens - I often see the faces of people on that suggest friends feature and think it's people actually asking to befriend me. I've actually clicked on the active part of someone's face (which sends them a friend request!), way in the past, thereby ending up with people on my friends list (when they accept the request) that I didn't intend to friend.

The friend suggestions (for me at least) always come in batches. Sometimes it's my university group, sometimes it's my high school group, sometimes it's work people, sometimes it's friends of family members.

The suggestions always start out with people who share friends with me and with others on my existing friend's list. So, my sisters and I share several friends, but I don't know any of their local friends (from their church, from their neighborhoods). Yet I get suggestions to friend those people because some of them I share two or three friends with (sisters, their daughters).

 

[mommame]

How an algorithm?
I see AM saying 'friend requests,' which I did not hear before. I thought it only 'people you may know' or 'suggestions' which are I think algorhithms.

I thought it was actual friend requests sent to men of Andys age.

 

[TKG]

I'm starting to think that LS gleaned important evidence that LE are now sitting on.
Something that can be used in a trial ?
Or even BM realizes he slipped up and so he won't open up to LS any more ?
Imo.

I found it very strange that in the last interview LS did with BM he asked her several times if she believed in God. Such an odd question...

 

[LietKynes]

In Andy's extended interview with PE
CO - CO - Suzanne Morphew, 49, Chaffee County, 10 May 2020 , MEDIA,MAPS,TIMELINE *NO DISCUSSION*
@8:42 he says that TN or one of the kids showed up and they called 911. I always wondered why TN arrived on scene so quickly since he lives 2+ hours away. Now that @NatureLover has advised that TN's mom was part of the camping expedition and that she and BM's mom drove to CO together, it makes more sense. Where was BM's mom during this time? Did she go on the trip too or stay with TN? Were they planning to celebrate MD at BM & SM's home? Thank goodness BM was fortunate enough to have his support system so close when tragedy struck. I am not in any way implying they were complicit in SM's disappearance, I just find the timing interesting, more people dancing to Barry's tune.

MOO

Saving this post.
Just so much that makes a person go "Hmm".
What did BM tell them all ?