Found Deceased CO - Suzanne Morphew, 49, did not return from bike ride, Chaffee County, 10 May 2020 #48

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al66pine said:
Soil Compaction Tests?
@OldCop Thx for the links. My "inner auditor" is trying to judge significance of these dox.
Oct 5 "Letter of Completion" on Kumar & Assoc. letterhead refers to "daily reports" dox re "observation and testing" previously submitted to Garrett Co. Are those "daily reports" actually documentation of a Kumar employee/engineer bring at the worksite ea. working day and observing that approp procedures were followed, to conclude that the work was done in "general compliance" w the "project plans" and "corrective or remedial recommendations."
So presumably, receiving this letter of completion prompts the final payment for job?
On attached pages: 'Soil Compaction Tests (tests 36, 37, and 38) dated May 28 then test 39, conducted Aug. 26.
If BM's crew completed the "do-over" in early/mid May, then
--- did Kumar first run tests May 28, or before then?
--- did one sample of the three tests give a unsatisfactory/unacceptable result? If so, which one?
--- Why was test 39 not run until Aug 26? Or did Kumar run test in meantime and not report another bad result?
--- Or was test 39 not a repeat test, but a test in different part of wall/site, or done for a diff factor? Why a 2 mo. gap btwn tests?
--- If last test necessary (39?) for Kumar to issue letter of completion was run Aug 26, was that letter, dated Oct 5, sent in the usu/routine time? More than 5 week gap?
Posters who know soil compaction, we need help w interp, please.

IDK if these the contents of the dox per se are meaningful, but I wonder about communications/e-trail btwn BM & other ppl involved? Re these dates, who said what to whom? When? When? Esp'ly re RE-starting the job.
Just rambling, My2cts.
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Don’t ask me. I’m just an old cop. I know very little about construction. :cool:
I do know each city and state has different rules for construction. Up north, the companies had to hire a police detail if you were going to be working in the road or would disrupt traffic. When an officer arrived at the site, he would check the permits. Also, patrol sergeants, if they rode by a site and the contractor had not hired a detail, they could shut down the job site and issue them a citation. Other states hire civilian flag men when road work is involved. I wonder, if in CO, had a LEO rode by the job site that Sunday, could he have demanded to see the permit for Sunday work?
Also, would Kumar be hired by Broomfield or Garrett? I could see some greasy skids if you could hire your own inspector to draw up a letter of compliance and then hand it in to demand your payment.
As far as messages between BM and the contractor, I’d love to see them myself. First he screwed up the job last Fall and in the Spring they find LE knocking on their door asking about their job/sub contractor.
Finally, who built the wall? We know BM fired the meth heads, he was busy swimming in the creek, chasing Mountain lions, working out at the gym, and negotiating real estate deals. When on earth would he have time to build a wall?
 
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Confirming or Collapsing Alibi?
Dave F. said:
... what I see is that contrary to MG's estimate of a half hour's work, BM did at least eight hours of work with his Bobcat and with hand tools. I say that based on a lifetime in and out of construction, but more important. <...snipped DaveF's timeline details...> I believe a defense would have no problem introducing experts to attest to the time required do do the work that BM did.
So, here is what I see of BM's rock solid wall of an alibi:
This alibi can be proven or disproven .
< snipped detail of possible eyewitness, receipts, sec cam vid, traffic cam vid, cell pings, cell logs, gps,LE witness>
<...> numerous ways to confirm. The fact that LE has not found anything to kill it in 5.5 months speaks volumes for considering other possibilities, which neither LE nor MSM have chosen to do publicly.<...>.IMO
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@Dave F. bbm sbm :) Excellent reasoning and detail, and it's possible. Interesting to see the info presented that way.Presumably by now, LE has collected a significant amt of ^ info in your list. And a lot of it/e-trail data comes from neutral, 3rd party sources, meaning no built-in bias. I'd not expect them to announce any of it. Or leak.

Some ppl might resist this line of your thinking because of comment --- looks like BM worked 30 min. and/or looks like kids did it. Sorry no link, forgot who said & when, but if 30 min stmt is believed then all the above collapses or at least crumbles. Or eventually at trial, jurors could focus on (hypo) lack of one other item in timeline. jm2cts.
 
OldCop said:
Don’t ask me. I’m just an old cop. I know very little about construction. :cool:
I do know each city and state has different rules for construction. Up north, the companies had to hire a police detail if you were going to be working in the road or would disrupt traffic. When an officer arrived at the site, he would check the permits. Also, patrol sergeants, if they rode by a site and the contractor had not hired a detail, they could shut down the job site and issue them a citation. Other states hire civilian flag men when road work is involved. I wonder, if in CO, had a LEO rode by the job site that Sunday, could he have demanded to see the permit for Sunday work?
Also, would Kumar be hired by Broomfield or Garrett? I could see some greasy skids if you could hire your own inspector to draw up a letter of compliance and then hand it in to demand your payment.
As far as messages between BM and the contractor, I’d love to see them myself. First he screwed up the job last Fall and in the Spring they find LE knocking on their door asking about their job/sub contractor.
Finally, who built the wall? We know BM fired the meth heads, he was busy swimming in the creek, chasing Mountain lions, working out at the gym, and negotiating real estate deals. When on earth would he have time to build a wall?
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Not just an old cop, a very wise, smaht (excuse my NE accent lol) old cop at that! :)

Your experience and wisdom are greatly appreciated @OldCop.

IMHO

#FindSuzanne
#BringSuzanneHome
#JusticeForSuzanne
 
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al66pine said:
Confirming or Collapsing Alibi?
@Dave F. bbm sbm :) Excellent reasoning and detail, and it's possible. Interesting to see the info presented that way.Presumably by now, LE has collected a significant amt of ^ info in your list. And a lot of it/e-trail data comes from neutral, 3rd party sources, meaning no built-in bias. I'd not expect them to announce any of it. Or leak.

Some ppl might resist this line of your thinking because of comment --- looks like BM worked 30 min. and/or looks like kids did it. Sorry no link, forgot who said & when, but if 30 min stmt is believed then all the above collapses or at least crumbles. Or eventually at trial, jurors could focus on (hypo) lack of one other item in timeline. jm2cts.
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Poor BM, should he ever get that far, will only have a number of expert witnesses testifying that he did eight hours of work minimum, while the prosecution will have MG and JP. Plus, if the technical evidence didn't back it up, we would have seen an arrest five months ago. Nuff said. IMO
 
Dave F. said:
Poor BM, should he ever get that far, will only have a number of expert witnesses testifying that he did eight hours of work minimum, while the prosecution will have MG and JP. Plus, if the technical evidence didn't back it up, we would have seen an arrest five months ago. Nuff said. IMO
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That’s simply not true. The technical evidence not backing it up, perfectly explains what we are seeing.

His phone records could blow his alibi apart, Suzanne’s phone records could be devastating, and Barry could have literally been caught on camera dumping the bike.

Even if one or all of those things were to be true, it would not be enough to file murder charges.

It proves he’s responsible, but does not prove that the underlying crime is murder.

You are claiming that Barry did 8 hours of work on Sunday (illegality and lack of equipment and materials aside). Even he has not addressed what he did, and how long he did it.

This is pure fiction.
 
MassGuy said:
That’s simply not true. The technical evidence not backing it up, perfectly explains what we are seeing.

His phone records could blow his alibi apart, Suzanne’s phone records could be devastating, and Barry could have literally been caught on camera dumping the bike.

Even if one or all of those things were to be true, it would not be enough to file murder charges.

It proves he’s responsible, but does not prove that the underlying crime is murder.

You are claiming that Barry did 8 hours of work on Sunday (illegality and lack of equipment and materials aside). Even he has not addressed what he did, and how long he did it.

This is pure fiction.
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What’s it going to take to file murder charges?
 
Minordetails said:
What’s it going to take to file murder charges?
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Something that crosses the threshold in the eyes of the DA. They have to prove that Suzanne is dead, and Barry killed her.

Every DA is different, and every case is different.

There are lots of ways to get there, even if you don’t have a body. There’s no telling what they have at this point.

Time is their friend though, as the longer Suzanne is missing, the easier it is to prove that she is dead.
 
MassGuy said:
That’s simply not true. The technical evidence not backing it up, perfectly explains what we are seeing.

His phone records could blow his alibi apart, Suzanne’s phone records could be devastating, and Barry could have literally been caught on camera dumping the bike.



Even if one or all of those things were to be true, it would not be enough to file murder charges.

It proves he’s responsible, but does not prove that the underlying crime is murder.

You are claiming that Barry did 8 hours of work on Sunday (illegality and lack of equipment and materials aside). Even he has not addressed what he did, and how long he did it.

This is pure fiction.
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The question of whether he worked illegally on Sunday is between him and the city who made the ordinance, and the question of whether he provided materials to finish the job is ultimately between him and his lifelong friend in Indiana. It has nothing to do with what happened to SM, or who is responsible.
Likewise, Barry says he fired MG (presumably for not finishing the assigned task) while she says she was fired for turning over her phone to LE (presumably in coordination with accusing him of murdering his wife). The unemployment commission hearing on that difference of opinion might be a doozie......but it has almost nothing to do with discovery of what happened to SM, and who was responsible.
IMO
 
Dave F. said:
The question of whether he worked illegally on Sunday is between him and the city who made the ordinance, and the question of whether he provided materials to finish the job is ultimately between him and his ,lifelong friend in Indiana. It has nothing to do with what happened to SM, or who is responsible.
Likewise, Barry says he fired MG (presumably for not finishing the assigned task) while she says she was fired for turning over her phone to LE (presumably in coordination with accusing him of murdering his wife). The unemployment commission hearing on that difference of opinion might be a doozie......but it has almost nothing to do with discovery of what happened to SM, and who was responsible.
IMO
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It has everything to do with this case, as the job is his alibi.

Everything we have learned, tells us that this was a last minute affair.

Explain to me how these workers were supposed to finish a job with no materials, no equipment, no permit, no supervision, and no proper oversight.

I’m shocked that they even wasted their time, as they were set up for failure.
 
MassGuy said:
It has everything to do with this case, as the job is his alibi.

Everything we have learned, tells us that this was a last minute affair.

Explain to me how these workers were supposed to finish a job with no materials, no equipment, no permit, no supervision, and no proper oversight.

I’m shocked that they even wasted their time, as they were set up for failure.
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You can be as shocked as you want, but the simple definition of alibi is that the accused was someplace else, other than where the crime occurred. It has nothing to do with how organized, or how likable the accused person is. IMO
 
Minordetails said:
Who has the legal right to determine that she is dead?
And would a prosecutor not only have to prove to a jury that she is dead, but also that she was murdered?

“We the jury believe SM to be dead but find BM not guilty”

Is she then legally dead?
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That is an unresolved legal question in Colorado. In November 2019 the jury found Patrick Frazee guilty of murdering Kelsey Berreth, but that verdict doesn't really fit the statutory requirements for a medical examiner or coroner to issue a death certificate. We have no idea what the family is doing (or not doing) to remedy it; but there has been no proof of death filed yet with Social Security. In the few prior "no body" Colorado cases, more than seven years had elapsed and the victims had been declared legally dead. IMO IANAL
 
Dave F. said:
You can be as shocked as you want, but the simple definition of alibi is that the accused was someplace else, other than where the crime occurred. It has nothing to do with how organized, or how likable the accused person is. IMO
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The point here is that his alibi is not an alibi, because there was no bike ride, and he was not some place else when the crime occurred.

The disorganization is important because it shows that this was thrown together last minute in an effort to misdirect.

Are you telling me you believe there was a bike ride, and Barry’s alibi is real?
 
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