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What a sad crazy story. If I was in this situation I wouldn't know what I would do. By reading this story I would feel like any traps I set, the stalker would somehow know about it. I think I would try guard dogs, but then I would be scared if they were poisoned one day. If I moved away I would feel like the stalker would follow me where ever I went.

I personally got bad vibes from the two male neighbors that were repeatedly mentioned in the story. I was wondering if maybe there were two stalkers at a certain point.
 
Now I'm wondering.

K and Morgan would be of similar ages, right? I'm thinking of how they might've met...maybe in HS? Maybe K met/fixated on her in HS; they don't have to have been in the same class, just the same school.

Huh.

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Herding Cats said:
Now I'm wondering.

K and Morgan would be of similar ages, right? I'm thinking of how they might've met...maybe in HS? Maybe K met/fixated on her in HS; they don't have to have been in the same class, just the same school.

Huh.

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HC, in one of her post I forgot which one...The parents asked Morgan if she knew of the guy that lived with B...she said she didn't know him but was with someone and he was there, Morgan didn't speak to him cause he gave her the creeps. She also stated that the grocery store she went to he was a cashier, and he asked for her Drivers License. Of course this happened on different occasions and I'm a little confused because they spoke of two boys. One had moved out.
 
you know, the more I look at that photo, the more I'm thinking that you're right...the stalker is looking up toward the right side of the drive, and not whipping his head around left. The body position makes more sense that way, too...the way the left shoulder is sort of cocked forward, instead of moving backwards to allow the head to spin that far.

I *****so***** have to play with this photo a bit.

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Kool-Aid said:
What a sad crazy story. If I was in this situation I wouldn't know what I would do. By reading this story I would feel like any traps I set, the stalker would somehow know about it. I think I would try guard dogs, but then I would scared if they were poisoned one day. If I moved away I would feel like the stalker would follow me where ever I went.

I personally got bad vibes from the two male neighbors that were repeatedly mentioned in the story. I was wondering if maybe there were two stalkers at a certain point.
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I agree. That's what makes this story so sad and scary. A lot of us have kids...what would we do? I guess as a parent you are just telling yourself "oh it's just some stupid kid playing games" then it becomes so much more before you even realize it. There is no doubt that these people were scared to death.

So yeah, I ask myself what I would do as a parent. I have a daughter that will be 20 in a couple of weeks. And another 15 year old daughter. As I am reading her blog....I say to myself over and over "no way would I do that" but then I have to remind myself......I really don't know what I would do if some crazy person was making my family's life he*l.

I probably would have loaded my yard up with bear traps.

And...does anybody know the deal with the farm behind their house? Who lives there? That's where my train of thought is going.
 
The neighbor even went up stairs and showed Toni a T-shirt that looks like the one the stalker was wearing in the photo. I remember at the time I read that, I became suspicious of the neighbor.
 
Theft by receiving: Officers received a report on Dec. 23 of theft from a home. At 5 p.m. that day in the 1400 block of Grand Avenue, officers stopped a car driven by Keenan James Vanginkel, 19, of Carbondale and arrested him on a $1,000 warrant for theft by receiving. He was also found to be in possession of less than 6 ounces of marijuana, and was charged with possession of marijuana and drug paraphernalia and intent to sell marijuana.
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Here is record of the arrest I know someon(may not have even been on this thread)..someone was questioning whether there was any proof as to the arrest..

And link:
http://www.postindependent.com/article/20120113/VALLEYNEWS/120119952
 
Lera213 said:
The neighbor even went up stairs and showed Toni a T-shirt that looks like the one the stalker was wearing in the photo. I remember at the time I read that, I became suspicious of the neighbor.
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Ding ding ding! Yep this is exactly the point at which my attenaes perked in Elliots direction..

Now back off to get caught up on this afternoons posts..ive been off looking in other directions and am now behind in posts/discussions here..
 
Long time lurker coming out of hiding. Just wanted to know if anyone else can see his head and arm reflected in the back passenger window of the car on the left. Also I think the distortion of him compared to the LE is because his is running where as LE are walking away
 
Bigger on this one with some distortion but you can make out one of the eye's pretty good. CREEPY TOO

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Then again, he knew they put up lights, and he might of thought they could put up a camera...maybe he put on a disguise?
 
Somebody did a picture update on the blog...and posted that they could see the stalker wearing a utility belt. I can't see it....can any of you?
 
Lera213 said:
HC, in one of her post I forgot which one...The parents asked Morgan if she knew of the guy that lived with B...she said she didn't know him but was with someone and he was there, Morgan didn't speak to him cause he gave her the creeps. She also stated that the grocery store she went to he was a cashier, and he asked for her Drivers License. Of course this happened on different occasions and I'm a little confused because they spoke of two boys. One had moved out.
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I recall that too. But in HS, a lot of folks don't know everyone...I don't know how big her HS was, but it may be that they were there at the same time. Maybe in different grad classes, which would separate them quite a bit, but I'm thinking maybe the stalker saw her there, fixated on her, and was the cashier guy and got going that way.

I have to say, if someone asked for my ID while buying nail polish, I'd be pretty incensed and not show it to them...unless it was because of a check writing policy or something. And yes again, it was a separate incident when she was over at someone's house and saw K., and it gave her the creeps.

I can't shake the feeling that this stalking started quite a ways before Morgan shared the window knocking incident. Morgan may not have known about it before, either, but I'm willing to bet that she was being watched/stalked earlier than this rock throwing/window knocking episode.

(BTW, glad to see you on this thread...)

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SmoothOperator said:
I know some may find this ridiculous to even suggest but I have a strange intuition that this body resembles a female attempting to disguise her female appearance and look as a male..the stiff,"Ken doll" like hair imo could easily coincide with a wig..

It appears as tho with the intent of disguising her female body that she does have something on possibly under the jjacket or pullover that we see it has on..the frame and stature and somehow just the female characteristics in general imo appear to stand out even in this still shot.

All jmo and i know most will find it ludicrous..lol
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I too thought the figure seemed somewhat feminine when I saw it. Was any consideration given that the stalker could be a female? Angry teenage girls are pretty awful.

Just throwing the thought out there.

Always MOO
 
rollinginit said:
Somebody did a picture update on the blog...and posted that they could see the stalker wearing a utility belt. I can't see it....can any of you?
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I haven't been able to pinpoint it either. If anyone can, would you point it out to me?

Thanks.

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Welcome Spotlight!..so glad you decided to join us and I can see why this case in particular would be one that would draw a lurker into active posting..so welcome aboard ,hope you continue to post:)

I also very much agree with you on your opinion regarding the "stalker" being fuzzier,more distorted than the images of the officers immediately preceding ..I believe that the officers were merely walking at a standard pace thereby when the hunting cam snappd its shot ..it would of course be of a fairly clear,unblurry nature strictly due to the fact that the pace at which the officers were walking allowed their image to remain clearer and more defined..

Whereas very soon thereafter you have the "stalker" come through the frame of fhe wildlife cam,his movement is what again triggers the cam to snap a pic..different imo is the fact that unlike the officers that were in no hurry,therefor walking at a slow speed allowing their image to be fairly clear when snapped..the "stalker" image differs in that his pace of speed when crossing thru the frame of the cam imo was much faster than the officers ,therefor obviously is the cause for why the stalker image is not near as clear,or defined as the officers pics..

From the jump I was never convinced at all the stalker was leaning on Steves vehicle..so, I never believed that was accurate and that equally accurate would be the cause and effect of why the stalkers image was more blurry,much less defined..due to his rate of speed that he was at in that moment in time when the cam caught the snapshot..just as cause and effect of officers images being much more clear and better defined..this also due to their rate of speed(which imo would have been signifigantly slower than the stalker) that they were at in that moment in time when the cam caught the snapshot ..

Again welcome spotlight!..glad you decided to jump in and I just so happen to absolutely agree with your opinion in your first post about the case..
 
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