CO - Tim Watkins, 61, shot to death, Mount Herman, 14 Sept 2017 #2

[Shiressleuth]

Is this guy being looked at for TW?

Not ATM, just 2 in Loveland but not the other unsolved shootings in N Co nor TW. The similarities between the Loveland bike attempted shooting and TW's case are a reason to keep it in mind IMO.

 

[Ember123]

NOTHING from LE on TW? No demand from his local biker friends for an update from LE?? He is off John Q. Public's mind that quickly or is there something they know of being worked on behind the scenes or ... ???

 

[kc1023]

NOTHING from LE on TW? No demand from his local biker friends for an update from LE?? He is off John Q. Public's mind that quickly or is there something they know of being worked on behind the scenes or ... ???

I think maybe people thought it was DN and didn't follow it after he was arrested so they think it was "solved" back then. Just a guess, who knows.

 

[Niner]

Hope it's okay to post this here....

Friday, April 6th:
*Initial Conference Appearance Hearing (@ 9am CT) - for Teller County - CO – Daniel James Nations (31) – for Domestic Relations/Child Support. Next review hearing re children custody set for June 7th.
Clear Creek County, CO - Review hearing (2/21/18) for outstanding warrant is for missing a court hearing for failure to appear charge stems from a July 18 arrest alleging he provided false identification to Georgetown police, a misdemeanor. Bond is set at $500; as a condition of his probation (from his plea deal, he must submit to a mental health examination and substance abuse screening and comply with treatment plans required by the custody case.
**In custody in Indiana**
For Indiana:
Warrant/Writ issued 9/29/17 (6/1/17) Johnson County: Failure to register as a sex offender. Level 6 Felony: It carries a penalty upon conviction of a fixed term between six (6) months and two and one half (2 1/2) years in prison and a fine of up to $10,000.00. Cash bail of $200 & surety of $1000. Hearings set for March 28th and April 18th. Jury trial on May 22nd.
Warrant/Writ issued 9/29/17 (6/1/17) Johnson Co: Failure to register as a sex offender. Level 6 Felony: It carries a penalty upon conviction of a fixed term between six (6) months and two and one half (2 1/2) years in prison and a fine of up to $10,000.00. Cash bail of $200 & Surety of $1000. 9-24-19-2/MA: Driving While Suspended requires a knowing violation and a prior conviction of Sec. 1, 35-48-4-8.3(b)(1)/MC: Possession of Paraphernalia; 35-48-4-11(a)(1)/MB:
Possession of Marijuana. Next Pretrial hearing April 18th, Jury trial on May 22nd.
Plus in Indiana these are 2 separate cases & 1 transferred to Johnson County:
*Marion County: Warrant/Writ issued 5/25/17 (11/17/16): Drug possession, paraphernalia, and driving without a license. Pending (active).
*Bartholomew Superior Court: 7/14/15: Public Indecency-Fondle The Genitals Of The Def. Or Another Person In A Public Place; Warrant issued (6/5/17), bond set at $5000 or 10% cash. Pending (active).
*Bartholomew Co. (Greenwood City Court) Warrant/Writ issued 6/5/2017 & 10/18/17: Driving without a license and possession of drug paraphernalia. Warrant issued-$1,000.00 CASH ONLY. Case was transferred to Johnson County on 2/12/18.

 

[Niner]

from Court docket:

Date Len Name Hearing Type Case # Location Division
4/20/18
8:30 AM 1H NATIONS, DANIEL Setting D602018DR30004 Teller County DIV 11 - TELLER DISTRICT COURT
6/7/18
10:00 AM 1H NATIONS, DANIEL Review Hearing D602017JV33 Teller County DIV 11 - TELLER DISTRICT COURT


edited to add - he has court date April 18th in Johnson County, Indiana.

 

[Daey34]

TW’s artwork stolen. http://www.koaa.com/story/37901180/art-created-by-murder-victim-stolen-from-monument-restaurant

 

[Area52]

from Court docket:

Date Len Name Hearing Type Case # Location Division
4/20/18
8:30 AM 1H NATIONS, DANIEL Setting D602018DR30004 Teller County DIV 11 - TELLER DISTRICT COURT
6/7/18
10:00 AM 1H NATIONS, DANIEL Review Hearing D602017JV33 Teller County DIV 11 - TELLER DISTRICT COURT


edited to add - he has court date April 18th in Johnson County, Indiana.

Thank you Niner. It's so nice of you to keep us posted on the court proceedings. I really appreciate it, and I know others do too!

 

[kizzykat]

TW’s artwork stolen. http://www.koaa.com/story/37901180/art-created-by-murder-victim-stolen-from-monument-restaurant

That's a distinctive piece of work and looks large enough that would be difficult to transport, let alone hide. Hopefully wherever it lands on display, whether a yard or interior space, it will be recognized by someone and returned.

 

[Shiressleuth]

I think it's unbelievable that his unsolved murder doesn't make the news but his stolen artwork does.

 

[Daey34]

You’re right. He really hasn’t made news since September.

I think it's unbelievable that his unsolved murder doesn't make the news but his stolen artwork does.

 

[Steleheart]

I think it's unbelievable that his unsolved murder doesn't make the news but his stolen artwork does.

And then I wonder if Tim would prefer it that way.

Seems by what I read that he was that kind of guy.

JMO

 

[margarita25]

Iirc there was couple shot at on a motorcycle near Garden of the Gods, maybe 2015?

Eta:

https://www.denverpost.com/2015/08/31/woman-shot-riding-on-motorcycle-through-garden-of-the-gods/

 

[Deleted member 102539]

http://gazette.com/article/1624299?TC_SC_REF

Unsolved murder of Palmer Lake mountain biking legend leaves community deeply unsettled

Some text, then "Subscribers only" (by Lance Benzel/Jakob Rodgers).

 

[Jerrod]

http://gazette.com/article/1624299?TC_SC_REF

Unsolved murder of Palmer Lake mountain biking legend leaves community deeply unsettled

Some text, then "Subscribers only" (by Lance Benzel/Jakob Rodgers).

The entire article is available here:

http://coloradosprings.com/unsolved-murder-of-palmer-lake-mountain-biking-legend-leaves-community-deeply-unsettled/article/1624299

 

[Ember123]

The entire article is available here:

http://coloradosprings.com/unsolved-murder-of-palmer-lake-mountain-biking-legend-leaves-community-deeply-unsettled/article/1624299

WOW! Amazingly detailed and very interesting article!
THANK YOU very much Jerrod!

 

[Daey34]

There is so much to read there.

Some bullet points: Nations is still not excluded.

“It would be nice if he gave a truthful statement to police," Smith said. "That's about the best thing he could do for himself, to exclude himself."

The last substantive tip came a month ago. What was that tip?

Also, never before reported, was that TW Camped outside the night before he was shot.

The dive of the grave was tiny.

Also, there have been multiple POI’s.

There is also a detailed map of where the evidence was found.

 

[kizzykat]

http://gazette.com/article/1624299?TC_SC_REF

Unsolved murder of Palmer Lake mountain biking legend leaves community deeply unsettled

Some text, then "Subscribers only" (by Lance Benzel/Jakob Rodgers).

Thank you FromGermany. That article reveals so much it's heart breaking. ;(

 

[kizzykat]

Attached are pics of the map and the shallow grave from the Gazette article.
http://gazette.com/article/1624299?TC_SC_REF

Notations on the map

There's the place where Watkins' clipless, PEARL iZUMi size 42 shoe was found still buckled and strapped tight, resting upright on Mount Herman Road.

Another point on the map a half-mile northwest is where his cell phone case, his Safeway membership card and a few other scattered items from his wallet were found.
Meeker moves his finger east, resting on a hillside above Limbaugh Canyon that seemingly would be impossible to reach with a car, truck or SUV.
There, Meeker says, Watkins' custom-made, titanium hardtail mountain bike was found off-trail.
Watkins' body was about 50 feet to the north, wedged in a roughly 4-by-3-foot hole in a densely forested hillside.

 

[kizzykat]

There is so much to read there.

Some bullet points: Nations is still not excluded.

“It would be nice if he gave a truthful statement to police," Smith said. "That's about the best thing he could do for himself, to exclude himself."

The last substantive tip came a month ago. What was that tip?

Also, never before reported, was that TW Camped outside the night before he was shot.

The dive of the grave was tiny.

Also, there have been multiple POI’s.

There is also a detailed map of where the evidence was found.

BBM
Respectfully, just a correction Daey. Though sometimes he camped out, the last night before he disappeared he spent at home with his wife, the next morning (and last time she saw him) was her birthday.

"Sometimes, he camped in the hills west of Mount Herman. But the night before his disappearance, he asked if he could come home. Ginger said yes. ...The following morning - her birthday - she woke up around 5 a.m. Barely awake, Tim Watkins turned over long enough to say "Happy Birthday," and "I'll see you tonight," she recalled. ...She left for work. He went for a ride."
http://gazette.com/article/1624299?TC_SC_REF

 

[Shiressleuth]

His wife must be so thankful she said yes for him to come home that last night. And he was shot on her birthday. What a sad story - LE must find out who did this dreadful murder. So there was a bullet hole in the wheel of the bike and I note DN is still one of "multiple" POI's.

So what happened a month ago? Mid March that would be.

(Eta just checked - probably coincidence but A&L thread closed 15th March )