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gngr~snap said:
Per LE live on CNN
weapon Bushmaster AR-15
Sig Sauer 9mm
Glock 9mm
multiple rounds of ammunition/multiple high capacity magazines
100's of bullets...
shotgun in vehicle...
hand gun used to take his own life...
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THANK YOU so much for your terrific, spot-on transcription!
 
Blue_Dolphin308 said:
Anyone that harasses,threatens or intimidates anyone involved in this case via social media or any forms of communication WILL BE Prosecuted.

Is this explained enough now?
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I get it, but obviously some on the people on the social media are not. I don't go there except to do my show. I really don't see the point in sharing every moment of my day with people I don't know. BBM
 
joypath said:
:blushing: SO..... What can I do?........:rocker:


:waitasec: Did any of you guys notice some of the first responders cuddling the kids & the teddy bears that "magically" appeared? :great: MANY (okay just about ALL of the trunks of the "OFFICIAL vehicles") in Connecticut carry stuffed animals for our littlest (and yeah, even some of our "not so little") victims/suffers and each cuddlie gives an individual something, nay "someone" to focus upon, to concentrate his/her nurturing, try to "step away" from the current horror"and a focal point for a rescuer to open up a dialog (:floorlaugh: okay, a chit-chat!:floorlaugh:).

:twocents: SO.....while Toys for Tots are asking for donations at this time of year, how about checking in with your local PD, FD, EMS or State public information officer and see if they have a program or if not, perhaps just start
one by donating a box of stuffed "critters" (AND NO, THEY DO NOT have to BE HUGE TOYS!):seeya:


And for those of you who "know" me.........ya knew I had to use my "smilies" sometime this weekend :floorlaugh::floorlaugh::floorlaugh:
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Hi Joy, hope to see u tonight on Tricia's show.. I give toys to the homeless women and children shelter in my town instead of toys for tots.
 
Twitter has announced that the President has landed & is driving I-84W (the weather is yucky foggy) toward Newtown High School for the Vigil.
 
JBean said:
We know nothing concrete about the family dynamics.
As I have posted before almost all accounts of Nancy as a mother portray her as a lovely devoted mother.
Attacking her integrity and her choices will not be tolerated at this time. Not only it is this a victim friendly site- but we have not got the first clue what is or is not true as it relates to the shooter and his mother.

She has paid the ultimate price. leave her alone. Leave the family alone, the whole family.

We do not know enough.

THIS IS THE FINAL WARNING. If you see members violate please alert.
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this cannot be said enough so I am bumping it up
 
I'm not remotely caught up on the thread here, so I apologize if this falls in a weird place, topic-wise.

I teach preschoolers. They are ages 3-5. We have four days of class this week before Winter Break. My brain and logic tell me that we'll be fine. This week will be the same as any other week right before Winter Break--my kids will be all hopped up on pre-present cheer, 90% of them will have the cough and sniffles, I'll dole out approximately 4 band-aids, 57 hugs, 21 reminders to use walking feet and safe bodies, and I'll help pour over 100 cups of milk. Parents will be stressed to the limit trying to scrape together an extra $30 to buy their kids some socks and a remote control car, and I'll likely be picking this week's glitter out of my hair and clothes and bedding and carpet and cat and husband until mid-January. It's likely to be a generally average week. I know that.

However, I awoke more anxious than usual this Sunday. All weekend, I've been trying to remember all the lock-down procedures--I know what to do if we're in the classroom, but I'm feeling fuzzy on playground and gym procedures. Do I need to change the cover on the classroom door so it's easier to pull down?

So then I remind myself--and call a fellow teacher to reinforce my reminder: The chances of something happening at school tomorrow are probably the same or close to what they are any other day. And I do know what to do--I know where the "blind spot" in the classroom is where we can all fit and no one can see in from outside, I know how to lock the doors quickly, and I know how to comfort children effectively. I've stayed calm in crisis situations before, and my mommy/teacher instincts are strong and well-honed. We would be as okay as far as what was under my control, but in that situation, so little would be under my control.

My school was built between 1925 and the mid-40's--we have super-old, single-pane glass windows that sometimes feel like they're about to shatter under the torrential rain we get. When it comes right down to it, if someone is determined to come in and kill us, they will. But that was no less true last Sunday than it is this one.

I'm not even sure what I'm trying to say.

I suppose I'm just expressing how I've been processing this personally as a teacher. I feel like I've come full circle almost--and I'm finally to the part where I can take note to be ever-vigilant, but ultimately just keep going.

As a parent...this wrecks me. My only son was lost to violence at a tender age, and I feel such sorrow to see more parents being forced to go through the soul-demolishing and seemingly never-ending grieving that I know all too well.

As a former care-giver to many individuals with various developmental disabilities, "places on spectrums," mental illnesses, and their combinations, I feel concern about the current state of our nation's health care, education, and social service systems. It hurts to think that people I love and care about will be viewed by some in a more derogatory or misunderstood or frightened manner. I hope some positive changes can occur, though?

:sigh:

I just feel...out of sorts and emotionally touchy. I'm not the only one, right?

Anyway, there's my piece. Now I must brave the outside world in search of sustenance for my family. Wish me luck--I kinda really don't feel like going out there right now.

:grouphug:
 
What time is the vigil tonight? Does anyone know? I have to work and won't be able to watch, but I want to DVR it.
 
And.....when asked where I'll be on Monday: First funeral for Newtown shooting victim set for Monday
The funeral for Noah Pozner, 6, will be at 1 p.m

Read more: http://www.newstimes.com/news/artic...ting-victim-set-for-4122418.php#ixzz2FFk906eW


Noah's twin sister Arielle, assigned to a different classroom, survived the shooting. He called her his best friend, and with their 8-year-old sister, Sophia, they were inseparable.

His TWIN.....talk about ripped asunder and torn apart!
 
A 'Very Positive Mom'

Former neighbor Ryan Kraft remembered Nancy as a “very positive mom,” who was “focused on getting them [her sons] what they needed and what they wanted.”

Kraft recalled one anecdote from just a day or two after the terrorist attacks of Sept. 11, 2001.

“A day or two after [Nancy] went to Home Depot, to Lowes — to all the hardware stores in the area — and spent probably $3,000 on gloves and mittens and coats and drove them down to New York,” he said.

“She was that kind of person: would do something and act immediately if she could help.”

http://newtown.patch.com/articles/p...-of-gunman-27th-victim-in-sandy-hook-shooting
 
flourish said:
I'm not remotely caught up on the thread here, so I apologize if this falls in a weird place, topic-wise.

I teach preschoolers. They are ages 3-5. We have four days of class this week before Winter Break. My brain and logic tell me that we'll be fine. This week will be the same as any other week right before Winter Break--my kids will be all hopped up on pre-present cheer, 90% of them will have the cough and sniffles, I'll dole out approximately 4 band-aids, 57 hugs, 21 reminders to use walking feet and safe bodies, and I'll help pour over 100 cups of milk. Parents will be stressed to the limit trying to scrape together an extra $30 to buy their kids some socks and a remote control car, and I'll likely be picking this week's glitter out of my hair and clothes and bedding and carpet and cat and husband until mid-January. It's likely to be a generally average week. I know that.

However, I awoke more anxious than usual this Sunday. All weekend, I've been trying to remember all the lock-down procedures--I know what to do if we're in the classroom, but I'm feeling fuzzy on playground and gym procedures. Do I need to change the cover on the classroom door so it's easier to pull down?

So then I remind myself--and call a fellow teacher to reinforce my reminder: The chances of something happening at school tomorrow are probably the same or close to what they are any other day. And I do know what to do--I know where the "blind spot" in the classroom is where we can all fit and no one can see in from outside, I know how to lock the doors quickly, and I know how to comfort children effectively. I've stayed calm in crisis situations before, and my mommy/teacher instincts are strong and well-honed. We would be as okay as far as what was under my control, but in that situation, so little would be under my control.

My school was built between 1925 and the mid-40's--we have super-old, single-pane glass windows that sometimes feel like they're about to shatter under the torrential rain we get. When it comes right down to it, if someone is determined to come in and kill us, they will. But that was no less true last Sunday than it is this one.

I'm not even sure what I'm trying to say.

I suppose I'm just expressing how I've been processing this personally as a teacher. I feel like I've come full circle almost--and I'm finally to the part where I can take note to be ever-vigilant, but ultimately just keep going.

As a parent...this wrecks me. My only son was lost to violence at a tender age, and I feel such sorrow to see more parents being forced to go through the soul-demolishing and seemingly never-ending grieving that I know all too well.

As a former care-giver to many individuals with various developmental disabilities, "places on spectrums," mental illnesses, and their combinations, I feel concern about the current state of our nation's health care, education, and social service systems. It hurts to think that people I love and care about will be viewed by some in a more derogatory or misunderstood or frightened manner. I hope some positive changes can occur, though?

:sigh:

I just feel...out of sorts and emotionally touchy. I'm not the only one, right?

Anyway, there's my piece. Now I must brave the outside world in search of sustenance for my family. Wish me luck--I kinda really don't feel like going out there right now.

:grouphug:
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Thanks was not enough!! This is all we can do. Just keep moving forward the best we can. It is going to be tough but we have to show our children that it IS safe, and life does go on, even with such a horrible tragedy
 
It was disclosed by Connecticut LE that Adam Lanzo was able to access the school by blasting his way through the door. He was not let in.
 
Vigil is suppose to start at 730 pm EST and last 90 minutes.
 
MsFacetious said:
A 'Very Positive Mom'

Former neighbor Ryan Kraft remembered Nancy as a “very positive mom,” who was “focused on getting them [her sons] what they needed and what they wanted.”

Kraft recalled one anecdote from just a day or two after the terrorist attacks of Sept. 11, 2001.

“A day or two after [Nancy] went to Home Depot, to Lowes — to all the hardware stores in the area — and spent probably $3,000 on gloves and mittens and coats and drove them down to New York,” he said.

“She was that kind of person: would do something and act immediately if she could help.”

http://newtown.patch.com/articles/p...-of-gunman-27th-victim-in-sandy-hook-shooting
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Great story but I don't know if I believe all of it unfortunately. I don't remember anyone being able to get into NYC a day or two after 9-11 and I'm not sure that it was mitten glove season. just saying.
 
[video=youtube;ue4jujH-cL4]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ue4jujH-cL4[/video]

my favorite song.. one we sang today at church for the children and victims. just sharing
 
joypath said:
And.....when asked where I'll be on Monday: First funeral for Newtown shooting victim set for Monday
The funeral for Noah Pozner, 6, will be at 1 p.m

Read more: http://www.newstimes.com/news/artic...ting-victim-set-for-4122418.php#ixzz2FFk906eW


Noah's twin sister Arielle, assigned to a different classroom, survived the shooting. He called her his best friend, and with their 8-year-old sister, Sophia, they were inseparable.

His TWIN.....talk about ripped asunder and torn apart!
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More on cutest Noah:

ap_noah_pozner_wy_121215_wb.jpg

http://a.abcnews.com/images/US/ap_noah_pozner_wy_121215_wb.jpg

Noah was "smart as a whip," gentle but with a rambunctious streak, said his uncle, [AH] of Woodinville, Wash. Noah's twin sister [A] , assigned to a different classroom, survived the shooting. He called her his best friend, and with their 8-year-old sister, , they were inseparable.
"They were always playing together, they loved to do things together," [AH] said. When his mother, a nurse, would tell him she loved him, he would answer, "Not as much as I love you, Mom."
[AH] said Noah loved to read and liked to figure out how things worked mechanically. For his birthday two weeks ago, he got a new Wii.

"He was just a really lively, smart kid," [AH] said. "He would have become a great man, I think. He would have grown up to be a great dad."

http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/smiling-portraits-conn-victims-17989618?page=3
 
Thank you, to the person who posted the link to personal account written by a mother. Forgive me, but I can't seem to find your original post, to thank you by name. (I can never find a post when I go looking for it).

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/12/16/i-am-adam-lanzas-mother-mental-illness-conversation_n_2311009.html

Very insightful story. Her decisions must have required a thought process that is counter-intuitive to a mother's instinct to 'save her child' no matter what the personal toll it takes on herself or family. A very brave & difficult decision, to know when to place the child in an environment that keeps them and others safe.

One clearly sees, through the author's eyes, the challenges that evolve, as the child becomes older. Perhaps, similar in Nancy L's case. It may have been a joy to teach and comfort him as a child and adolescent. But when age 12 turned to 16, and beyond, the dynamic became more complex & challenging. Nancy L was surely devoted to caring for him; and devotedly placed his care before herself, and quite possibly, all else. Interesting to note that a friend of hers, related that Nancy would move with him, when (if?) he went on to college. Seems to suggest that Nancy L knew that AL would require her long term, and quite possibly - life long help.

My only hope, is that our families, friends and colleagues, become more familiar, with the signs of mental health issues. And that it becomes much more easier to find the resources for the care and nurturing of children and young adults with similar mental health challenges.
 
joypath said:
And.....when asked where I'll be on Monday: First funeral for Newtown shooting victim set for Monday
The funeral for Noah Pozner, 6, will be at 1 p.m

Read more: http://www.newstimes.com/news/artic...ting-victim-set-for-4122418.php#ixzz2FFk906eW


Noah's twin sister Arielle, assigned to a different classroom, survived the shooting. He called her his best friend, and with their 8-year-old sister, Sophia, they were inseparable.

His TWIN.....talk about ripped asunder and torn apart!
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Aw jeez, joy. Have kept my composure all day. Your post broke my hear, and I thank you for it.
 
LolaMoon08 said:
Many parents today want their children coddled and not disciplined. Many parents will claim the teacher is picking on their child, when all the teacher wants is for that child to excel. These same parents are turning their children against teachers so much so that the child never learns to respect their teachers as authority figures. Which brings me to what happened with my niece last year in 1st grade...

She had a teacher that she really didn't like. My niece is not a troubled child. Actually, she is the sweetest thing. Very outgoing and has a lot of little friends. For some reason, she and this teacher didn't mesh. My niece was convinced that her teacher didn't like her. My sister and brother-in-law could have asked for her to be removed from her classroom, but they didn't. They didn't want to start a pattern that would follow if my niece was removed from this class. There are going to be many teachers in her lifetime that she is not going to mesh with. So, my sister and brother-in-law paid extra attention to her during homework hours at home to make sure she was not only doing her work, but doing it well. She made it through the year on the honor roll. She is now in 2nd grade, loves her teacher this year, and on the honor roll.

My sister and brother-in-law didn't question this teacher. Every teacher has their methods. They have their ways. Those ways may not work with every student, but it is the parents responsibilty to make sure their children still respect their teachers. No matter what! This teacher wasn't abusing my niece. She wasn't mean to her. She was just set in her ways and did things a certain way. ETA: My sister and brother in law were convinced that my niece didn't take to well to the transition from fun and relaxed Kindergarden to the expectations of 1st graders where it wasn't as much fun sitting in a chair all day and learning and working on subjects.

I do know of many horrid stories of bad teachers, so they are out there. It's a parents decision to make the call on when a child needs to be removed from a teachers class. However, there are many cases where children do not need to be removed from a class simply because they don't mesh with the teacher. Life is going to have many moments where you have to learn to work with people you do not like. My sister and brother in law wanted to make sure my niece learned to work out those differences and not run away from them. To learn from them and move on. Better things are to come.

Parents and teachers shouldn't be enemies and it's sad that it seems like this is happening more and more as time goes on.
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This is true of all generations. Notice how your own example is different than the stereotype you purposed? Is it not possible that there are more than you think who break that mold? Can we not make this about blaming generations? When I was a teenager I heard about how worthless my generation was, and now my generation is doing the same to my kids' generation. And on it goes.

Every generation has bad parents. Every generation has flaky kids who waste it away, and really intelligent and dedicated kids who make the world a better place. Every generation has unspeakable violence.

If we really want to be an example to kids today, we need to get over ourselves and be willing to learn as much as we teach.
 
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