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I hope they do a "psychological autopsy" of AL. I feel that the results of that, based off interviews with surviving family, analysis of his actions before the attack, and examination of his writings, drawings, and other personal effects will show that he did not have autism at all, but was misdiagnosed. If he was indeed diagnosed officially as being on the spectrum, I would like to know when he was diagnosed (what age) and what forms of early intervention/therapy/medication was prescribed.
 
This article provides new information on what happened inside. Not sure how accurate it is but I tend to always think the local newspapers are more accurate than the MSM. They have more contacts and trusted connections. I'm biased though, since I started my career as a small town newspaper reporter.

Warning: The description is unsettling.

http://www.courant.com/news/connecticut/hc-timeline-newtown-shooting-1216-20121215,0,1878564.story

Oh my! The home video of Ana Marquez-Greene (victim) singing with her brother is heartbreaking. She is singing "Come Thou AlMighty King" :cry: R.I.P. baby girl.
 
This article provides new information on what happened inside. Not sure how accurate it is but I tend to always think the local newspapers are more accurate than the MSM. They have more contacts and trusted connections. I'm biased though, since I started my career as a small town newspaper reporter.

Warning: The description is unsettling.

http://www.courant.com/news/connecticut/hc-timeline-newtown-shooting-1216-20121215,0,1878564.story
He busted up his hard drive. I had wondered about his computer since I read earlier that he was "always clutching his laptop" in another article. He had a cyber footprint - AND - he didn't want anyone to see it. I really hope the FBI can get something off that. It is another action that showed he planned this, he knew right from wrong, and he knew he was going to be caught or killed.




JMHO
 
IMO by his actions - he exhibited that he knew right from wrong, regardless of any "condition" that he suffered from. He wore a bulletproof vest - he didn't want to be shot or killed - yet he might had suffered from a condition where he actually felt no pain. IMO whatever his reason was - he had one. He knew what he was going to do and he did it - horrific as it was. He knew what he had done was wrong - he killed himself. This was a selfish, cowardly act - but done by someone that knew right from wrong.

JMHO

BBM - which also wouldn't "add up"... What would be the point of wearing a bullet proof vest except to perhaps spare his life just long enough to finish his plans including his own suicide.
 
Morgan Freeman's thoughts ~~~
““You want to know why {these shootings keep happening}. This may sound cynical, but here’s why.It’s because of the way the media reports it. Flip on the news and watch how we treat the Batman theater shooter and the Oregon mall shooter like celebrities. Dylan Klebold and Eric Harris are household names, but do you know the name of a single victim of Columbine? Disturbed people who would otherwise just off themselves in their basements see the news and want to top it by doing something worse, and going out in a memorable way. Why a grade school? Why children? Because he’ll be remembered as a horrible monster, instead of a sad nobody.

“CNN’s article says that if the body count “holds up”, this will rank as the second deadliest shooting behind Virginia Tech, as if statistics somehow make one shooting worse than another. Then they post a video interview of third-graders for all the details of what they saw and heard while the shootings were happening. Fox News has plastered the killer’s face on all their reports for hours. Any articles or news stories yet that focus on the victims and ignore the killer’s identity? None that I've seen yet. Because they don’t sell. So congratulations, sensationalist media, you've just lit the fire for someone to top this and knock off a day care center or a maternity ward next.

You can help by forgetting you ever read this man's name, and remembering the name of at least one victim. You can help by donating to mental health research instead of pointing to gun control as the problem. You can help by turning off the news."

http://www.examiner.com/article/morgan-freeman-s-food-for-thought-regarding-the-sandy-hook-shooting
 
One thing I do not understand is why Nl's husband or son have not expressed any remorse for what happened to her. That is his x wife and is RL's mother. Am I the only one that thinks that is strange. If this is off limits just delete my post. But I think there should be some sadness for the loss of a mother. jmo
 
BBM - which also wouldn't "add up"... What would be the point of wearing a bullet proof vest except to perhaps spare his life just long enough to finish his plans including his own suicide.
Even more - WTH did he get it from? Certainly mom didn't buy it for him - maybe he got it off the net - that would have been pretty easy. But I'm willing to bet that mom didn't know he had one of those! Much less all the other gear he had. And all those rounds of ammo. Did mom really stock all those bullets? Or had he been accumulating them without her knowledge?



JMHO
 
All day I have been questioning why he did such an overkill on the children making sure they were not only wounded but to make sure each child was dead (although two did die in the hospital) by shooting each one several times. I went back and looked at other mass school shootings, and they all had many wounded and none of these murderers seemed to do such an overkill on the targets, they shot and moved on to the next target. In this case there is only one wounded, and that is an adult, that I believe was shot because she was in the way of getting to his targets, the children. None of this makes sense to me, but it is especially disturbing to me that he did such an overkill on the children.

I rely on my fellow WSers here to help me out here as I know next to nothing about guns.

My assumption was that the semi-automatic weapon confirmed today that he used has the ability to "spray" the targets. So he didn't necessarily shoot each individual one at a time, one shot at a time. He just sprayed the room with gunfire the way people hose down their outdoor plants.

I repeat, I know next to nothing about guns so this could be a totally erroneous assumption of mine.
 
This article provides new information on what happened inside. Not sure how accurate it is but I tend to always think the local newspapers are more accurate than the MSM. They have more contacts and trusted connections. I'm biased though, since I started my career as a small town newspaper reporter.

Warning: The description is unsettling.

http://www.courant.com/news/connecticut/hc-timeline-newtown-shooting-1216-20121215,0,1878564.story

Snipped from article:

Two law enforcement sources said the hard drive had been removed from Lanza's computer and broken in pieces. They said that forensic electronics experts at the FBI will examine the drive in an effort to determine with whom Lanza corresponded electronically and how he otherwise used the device.

No!!!!!!!!! Is there any way it can be repaired??
 
Someone previously mentioned the television show about the little girl with schizophrenia. I think it was called, Born Schizophrenic-The Story of Janny. It was an excellent program and very accurate. (I cried for the parents when their young son also began to show signs that he was hallucinating.)
 
Someone previously mentioned the television show about the little girl with schizophrenia. I think it was called, Born Schizophrenic-The Story of Janny. It was an excellent program and very accurate. (I cried for the parents when their young son also began to show signs that he was hallucinating.)

Disturbing show! I have some issues with the 2nd, updated portion of the program where the son is now showing symptoms, but I will not state them. It is one of the most chilling stories I have seen on the subject.

MOO
 
This is heartbreaking. What a horrific way to live.Last year I saw a show about childhood schizophrenia,wish I remember more about it,but I believe there is a treatment facility somewhere here in the US that is having alot of success. Does anyone else remember seeing this show. Could have been like on 20/20.

"Inside the world of childhood schizophrenia"

watch episode here:

http://abc.go.com/watch/2020/SH559026/VD55136548/inside-the-world-of-childhood-schizophrenia

Seriously disturbing because these parents are not getting the help they so desperately need.
 
That article linked above said a source relayed that he played graphic and violent video games.
 
One thing I do not understand is why Nl's husband or son have not expressed any remorse for what happened to her. That is his x wife and is RL's mother. Am I the only one that thinks that is strange. If this is off limits just delete my post. But I think there should be some sadness for the loss of a mother. jmo

The father did release a statement late this afternoon expressing his remorse. I haven't heard about the son, though.
 
He busted up his hard drive. I had wondered about his computer since I read earlier that he was "always clutching his laptop" in another article. He had a cyber footprint - AND - he didn't want anyone to see it. I really hope the FBI can get something off that. It is another action that showed he planned this, he knew right from wrong, and he knew he was going to be caught or killed.




JMHO

Please tell me what a cyber footprint is.
 
I agree we will never know the "why" and if someone cobbles something together it will never make sense to a sane/rational person. I suspect someone who is capable of picking up a weapon or multiple weapons and killing many people does not see other people as individuals with value or worth or even necessarily see them as human. They are just targets, blobs, and the goal is to kill as many as possible for the highest count.

I think a several prong approach needs to be looked at in terms of how to start to deal with this kind of phenomena, which only seems to be on the rise.

1. Media blackout: knowing they will be infamous and be on every news station and paper and magazine is a likely lure for these would-be killers. The idea of doing something big and shocking and earth-shattering. All the attention. If only there could be a complete blackout so that it wouldn't give anyone else the idea and/or they would not see someone get famous (or infamous) for their effort.

2. Gun Control: The founding fathers of the country could not possibly have imagined the type of weaponry that would come to exist centuries later when they authored the constitution and wrote the 2nd Amendment. Yes it's true that almost anything can be used as a weapon, but consider that high powered military type guns/rifles kill more people, faster. It's time to come up with strict limits.

3. Odd Goods/Good Odds: Sad to say, but it's true that teen boys up through young men are most likely to commit these kinds of atrocities, statistically-speaking. When the person is odd (mentally ill, obviously), the odds go up that they can be a danger to themselves and others. For goodness sakes, that is the very situation in which a parent should not have weapons, ammunition, etc. It doesn't matter how well locked-up the parents think their guns/ammo are. The kids know about the weapons, they are exposed to them, there is an enticement, excitement, and a potential for something bad. I don't know what can be done to address this, but there seems to be a lot of denial with parents that they have a troubled/odd/weird/socially awkward kid and a kid with mental and/or emotional issues could potentially head down a path of destruction. Parental education? I don't know the answer, but it has to start there.
 
Even more - WTH did he get it from? Certainly mom didn't buy it for him - maybe he got it off the net - that would have been pretty easy. But I'm willing to bet that mom didn't know he had one of those! Much less all the other gear he had. And all those rounds of ammo. Did mom really stock all those bullets? Or had he been accumulating them without her knowledge?

JMHO

He allegedly tried to purchase weapons earlier in the week from a store but you don't need an ID or permit to buy a bullet proof vest or ammunition... both are also widely available and sold over the internet even in bulk... just sayin...
 
The father did release a statement late this afternoon expressing his remorse. I haven't heard about the son, though.
I read the fathers statement, pretty well written IMO, I do not recall him mentioning his ex?
 
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