Conway "civil suit behavior a publicity stunt"

[lin]

Not a poor joke at all, when you consider the amount of damage done to people by lawyers. Even Shakespeare knew that.

That "joke" suggests that all lawyers should be drowned. Do you agree with that sentiment? Keep in mind that would include several members of this forum. I can take a joke and often use self-deprecating humor. In fact, I've even "collected" lawyer jokes. My favorite is: It's that rotten 99% that make the other 1% look bad.

I'll go out on a limb here and bet that if you were ever charged with a crime, your feelings about lawyers may change; just like so many others when they receive the benefit of the services offered. It's as hypocritical as those who like to malign law enforcement but don't hesitate to call when they need help.

Suggesting a whole group of people should be killed because of their profession, without any inkling whether or not they have ever done any "damage" to anyone or instead actually help others, well... If you agree with that, I don't suppose there's anything I can post here that will convince you just how sick that is. It's not unlike the reasoning used by Hitler to exterminate all of those of a religion with which he disagreed.

 

[lin]

Or FOR people.......I have adopted 4 kids and have had wonderful,caring ,concerned lawyers ,who I would be glad to call friends.
And I think of

I'm sure that's a vice-versa thing too.

 

[Turnadot]

My favourite thing about lawyer jokes, is they're funny until you need one. Then you see a lawyer in action and realise without him/her, you'd be screwed.

 

[lin]

People are very rarely, if ever, damaged by lawyers. They are damaged by their own actions/inactions; choices and statements. That some may have been proven to be unwise is certainly not the fault of any lawyer.

 

[azwriter]

People are very rarely, if ever, damaged by lawyers. They are damaged by their own actions/inactions; choices and statements. That some may have been proven to be unwise is certainly not the fault of any lawyer.

The thing about attorneys is that they, like mechanics, are usually needed when there is a problem. Not too many happy wonderful events lead us to an attorney's office.
I've delt with many attorneys and only had trouble with one. He had once represented me in an employment issue but the second time I saw him he had something else on his mind besides representating me in a case. He pulled a gun from his desk drawer and wrestled me to the floor thinking I was interested in having sex with him.
Regardless, I still would not hestitate to obtain an attorney when I needed one. But I never go into their office alone anymore.

 

[lin]

The thing about attorneys is that they, like mechanics, are usually needed when there is a problem. Not too many happy wonderful events lead us to an attorney's office.
I've delt with many attorneys and only had trouble with one. He had once represented me in an employment issue but the second time I saw him he had something else on his mind besides representating me in a case. He pulled a gun from his desk drawer and wrestled me to the floor thinking I was interested in having sex with him.
Regardless, I still would not hestitate to obtain an attorney when I needed one. But I never go into their office alone anymore.

What a horrible thing! I hope the jerk is in jail now. In any case, I don't think his profession made him such a lowlife. I am glad you can see that; that you don't hold his actions against everyone else.

I wish everyone could understand, as you do, that every profession has lowlives in it that may take similar actions under similar circumstances. For example: picking up a car that's been repaired after hours, alone and being attacked by the mechanic. One doesn't usually say they'll never get their car repaired again or that all mechanics should die. I don't see why some think it's ok to suggest lawyers should all be killed because they've had a bad experience. (Cos it couldn't be the party made some bad choices, right? Must be the attorney's fault.)

 

[magic-cat]

The Anthony clan are always the good guys in their own minds and everyone else is the bad guy. They accuse others of publicity stunts and I don't even have fingers enough to count THEIRS. Pot kettle black...

 

[milliac]

I recall an interview where CA said KC is presumed innocent. I think their frame of mind going into those depositions was they were working with the prosecution and questions/resposes would be detrimental to KC criminal case. I don't believe they think KC innocent, but want her to have a fair trial. Not that I excuse their bad behavior, but as a parent I can be somewhat sympathetic to thinking some of the questions were not relevent to this particular case. As a person inexperienced with the legal system, I would think I could say "that's not ZFG", and be done. So so so SAD KC could have ended this, but continues to put the parents in the hot seat. Now I have learned anything can be
asked. BC should have done a better job before and during Depos.

Lastly, as many of you state ZFG life has been damaged. Has CA/GA life not also been destroyed (yes..I agree a lot because of their own actions). Honestly, their careers are over (especially in
this market). What options do they have? When people experience grief or stress, many advise to get out of yourself and others. I think their foundation was a way for them to do what they needed for their own survival (emotionaly and financially).

While I am not a team A supporter, I am not a bashed. I can't imagine being in their


shoes and how I would handle the microscopic scrutiny of my family's past, present, and future actions.

 

[Bobbisangel]

Oh and I don't think Morgan is an "ambulance chaser" like the A's say... that part I don't agree with, for the record.
I hear he's a very well known atty that doesn't have to go looking for work.

Didn't the Anthony's hire Morgan at one point and he ended up quitting or am I thinking of someone else?

 

[Bobbisangel]

I don't think it is the Anthonys fault that Brad C turned out to be a snake. If we notice, the decent attorneys that started out with the Anthonys didn't last long. Brad C was who he was before the Anthonys ever hired him. He just put on the good guy act at the beginning. Now he is showing his true colors. He is one of them and they make a good team.

 

[scorpion1110]

AH wouldn't be the only one pressing charges here...lets remember the Bank will most likely follow thru with legal action. I would assume the Bank will be part of the States case for check fraud against Casey.

...........and don't forget Target will also be pursuing legal action

 

[LambChop]

There are many, many good attorneys. They work in law firms doing real estate, estates. They work in insurance companies as executives. They work for large companies. They work for the local, state and federal governments. All in all the majority are great at what they do. The few that are not are the ones we remember, just like the bad plumbers, mechanics, electricians in our lives. But attorneys really do get a bad rap more so than any other profession.

 

[Reagan]

Didn't the Anthony's hire Morgan at one point and he ended up quitting or am I thinking of someone else?

I personally haven't heard that one... or heard of any other player in this case having hired Morgan, except ZG.

Scorpion, is target also really pressing charges or...? That would be news to me also.

 

[magic-cat]

I recall an interview where CA said KC is presumed innocent. I think their frame of mind going into those depositions was they were working with the prosecution and questions/resposes would be detrimental to KC criminal case. I don't believe they think KC innocent, but want her to have a fair trial. Not that I excuse their bad behavior, but as a parent I can be somewhat sympathetic to thinking some of the questions were not relevent to this particular case. As a person inexperienced with the legal system, I would think I could say "that's not ZFG", and be done. So so so SAD KC could have ended this, but continues to put the parents in the hot seat. Now I have learned anything can be
asked. BC should have done a better job before and during Depos.

Lastly, as many of you state ZFG life has been damaged. Has CA/GA life not also been destroyed (yes..I agree a lot because of their own actions). Honestly, their careers are over (especially in
this market). What options do they have? When people experience grief or stress, many advise to get out of yourself and others. I think their foundation was a way for them to do what they needed for their own survival (emotionaly and financially).

While I am not a team A supporter, I am not a bashed. I can't imagine being in their


shoes and how I would handle the microscopic scrutiny of my family's past, present, and future actions.

George and Cindy's lives have certainly been damaged, but that is something completely different from what has happened to ZG. Their daughter was responsible and is responsible for this entire fiasco. The same daughter that they raised, lived with and looked over for all these years. The very same daughter who stole from them and other family members and received absolutely no consequences whatsoever. They are IN the life where all of this happened. This happened TO them and their granddaughter. Not so Zenaida. She is an innocent bystander who did not even know Casey Anthony nor any of the other Anthony's and she certainly never knew Caylee. George and Cindy's names are "mud" because of their own actions during the course of all of this and for no other reason. Zenaidas name is "mud" because she was defamed by Casey and then again, later, in the media, by Casey's representitive-Cindy Anthony. The two circumstances have nothing in common except for Casey Anthony and her lies.

In response to their "foundation"? I think I would rather live the rest of my life destitute than to profit from lies and deceit about my dead granddaughter...but that's just me. Caylee was never missing. Caylee was murdered and thrown out like trash on the side of the road. Someone close to them KNEW where Caylee was-her mother. She always knew. It would be different if they said they wanted to help other families who have had a family member murdered by another family member, or murdered by anyone, but they insist on pretending that she was missing and lump themselves into that "elite" group. She could have been found much sooner if they would have provided Texas Equuasearch with an article of Caylees with her scent on it, but they were loudly, publicly and vocally condemning any and all who would search for a "dead Caylee". Their foundation is about MONEY and nothing else. Caylee is nowhere in it as far as I can see, except to line their pockets with cash.:furious:

 

[cyberborg]

Damage control.

Of course BC is going to say that this civil suit is just a publicity stunt, not only does he have to cover for the A's antics at the depos --- that they were so dis-respectful of the process because they treated it as such but --- BC also has to take the focus off a legit ZG because there was no ZFG [Zanny nanny] and this goes to the heart of that.

I believe that Morgan played to the media too much but he did it with the right intentions, to represent ZG, maybe to aid LE and, to seek justice for Caylee since her grandparents clearly were not so he was Caylee's only voice.

BC has got his act and strategy together now and he is executing on it. The general public have short memories and so BC is re-writing actuality to sideline this as a distraction and noise although I would not be surprised if Morgan doesn't make a surprise comeback at an opportunist moment.

There is a LOT at stake in this and feathers have been ruffled -- it will swing in different directions as the A's re-invent and score some media victories but there wll be reminders as we move towards KC's trial. This is going to be an interesting game of chess played by all parties.

 

[lin]

I recall an interview where CA said KC is presumed innocent. I think their frame of mind going into those depositions was they were working with the prosecution and questions/resposes would be detrimental to KC criminal case. I don't believe they think KC innocent, but want her to have a fair trial. Not that I excuse their bad behavior, but as a parent I can be somewhat sympathetic to thinking some of the questions were not relevent to this particular case. As a person inexperienced with the legal system, I would think I could say "that's not ZFG", and be done. So so so SAD KC could have ended this, but continues to put the parents in the hot seat. Now I have learned anything can be
asked. BC should have done a better job before and during Depos.

Lastly, as many of you state ZFG life has been damaged. Has CA/GA life not also been destroyed (yes..I agree a lot because of their own actions). Honestly, their careers are over (especially in
this market). What options do they have? When people experience grief or stress, many advise to get out of yourself and others. I think their foundation was a way for them to do what they needed for their own survival (emotionaly and financially).

While I am not a team A supporter, I am not a bashed. I can't imagine being in their


shoes and how I would handle the microscopic scrutiny of my family's past, present, and future actions.

G & C may sue the person who caused this "damage" just like ZG did. That is, if they can show the damage was caused by someone other than themselves, which I doubt. I don't recall the media reporting accusations of G or C kidnapping Caylee.

If they are the ones that have damaged themselves, as I believe to be the case, the best option available to them, imo, would be to change their behavior and thereby their public image rather than setting up a "foundation" under false premises and questionable circumstances.

I have seen nothing to indicate that CA is unable to return to her career as a nurse. I have seen nothing to indicate to me that GA is having more trouble finding/keeping a job than he ever has or than others are having now in a troubled economy. IIRC correctly he was employed when this saga began and I have heard nothing about him being fired from that job. If he is having more difficulty than others and more than his history supports, perhaps he should consider the impact on potential employers of the public persona he has developed which imo is being dishonest and prone to angry outbursts. I wouldn't hire someone like that either. Nor would I want dishonest people on the board of any charity/non-profit I choose to endorse or support.

 

[okiedokietoo]

I recall an interview where CA said KC is presumed innocent. I think their frame of mind going into those depositions was they were working with the prosecution and questions/resposes would be detrimental to KC criminal case. I don't believe they think KC innocent, but want her to have a fair trial. Not that I excuse their bad behavior, but as a parent I can be somewhat sympathetic to thinking some of the questions were not relevent to this particular case. As a person inexperienced with the legal system, I would think I could say "that's not ZFG", and be done. So so so SAD KC could have ended this, but continues to put the parents in the hot seat. Now I have learned anything can be
asked. BC should have done a better job before and during Depos.

Lastly, as many of you state ZFG life has been damaged. Has CA/GA life not also been destroyed (yes..I agree a lot because of their own actions). Honestly, their careers are over (especially in
this market). What options do they have? When people experience grief or stress, many advise to get out of yourself and others. I think their foundation was a way for them to do what they needed for their own survival (emotionaly and financially).

While I am not a team A supporter, I am not a bashed. I can't imagine being in their


shoes and how I would handle the microscopic scrutiny of my family's past, present, and future actions.

I understand what you are saying. Although I don't think KC is putting her parents in the hot seat - CA and GA are not being forced to do anything that they, in the universal sense, have not agreed to do.
KC did not make them behave they way they did when they were deposed.

 

[azwriter]

George and Cindy's lives have certainly been damaged, but that is something completely different from what has happened to ZG. Their daughter was responsible and is responsible for this entire fiasco. The same daughter that they raised, lived with and looked over for all these years. The very same daughter who stole from them and other family members and received absolutely no consequences whatsoever. They are IN the life where all of this happened. This happened TO them and their granddaughter. Not so Zenaida. She is an innocent bystander who did not even know Casey Anthony nor any of the other Anthony's and she certainly never knew Caylee. George and Cindy's names are "mud" because of their own actions during the course of all of this and for no other reason. Zenaidas name is "mud" because she was defamed by Casey and then again, later, in the media, by Casey's representitive-Cindy Anthony. The two circumstances have nothing in common except for Casey Anthony and her lies.

In response to their "foundation"? I think I would rather live the rest of my life destitute than to profit from lies and deceit about my dead granddaughter...but that's just me. Caylee was never missing. Caylee was murdered and thrown out like trash on the side of the road. Someone close to them KNEW where Caylee was-her mother. She always knew. It would be different if they said they wanted to help other families who have had a family member murdered by another family member, or murdered by anyone, but they insist on pretending that she was missing and lump themselves into that "elite" group. She could have been found much sooner if they would have provided Texas Equuasearch with an article of Caylees with her scent on it, but they were loudly, publicly and vocally condemning any and all who would search for a "dead Caylee". Their foundation is about MONEY and nothing else. Caylee is nowhere in it as far as I can see, except to line their pockets with cash.:furious:

Tell it like it is Magic-Cat. Great post - points I can agree with 100 percent.

 

[azwriter]

I recall an interview where CA said KC is presumed innocent. I think their frame of mind going into those depositions was they were working with the prosecution and questions/resposes would be detrimental to KC criminal case. I don't believe they think KC innocent, but want her to have a fair trial. Not that I excuse their bad behavior, but as a parent I can be somewhat sympathetic to thinking some of the questions were not relevent to this particular case. As a person inexperienced with the legal system, I would think I could say "that's not ZFG", and be done. So so so SAD KC could have ended this, but continues to put the parents in the hot seat. Now I have learned anything can be
asked. BC should have done a better job before and during Depos.

Lastly, as many of you state ZFG life has been damaged. Has CA/GA life not also been destroyed (yes..I agree a lot because of their own actions). Honestly, their careers are over (especially in
this market). What options do they have? When people experience grief or stress, many advise to get out of yourself and others. I think their foundation was a way for them to do what they needed for their own survival (emotionaly and financially).

While I am not a team A supporter, I am not a bashed. I can't imagine being in their


shoes and how I would handle the microscopic scrutiny of my family's past, present, and future actions.

While you make many good points in your post concerning the fate of the Anthonys, your one line about then wanting Casey to have a fair trial stuck me as confusing. Casey's parents, especially Cindy, have not at all been fair in the investigation or search for their granddaughter - they have lied, backpeddled from their original statements and thrown up an entire smoke screen when it came to aiding or supporting search teams or law enforcement in finding Caylee dead or alive. They refused to even consider that she could be dead and did their best to try to convience everyone there was sightings of a "live" Caylee around the country.
I suppose the shock of what their daughter might have done, or the desire to protect her, encourage them to hide the facts and evidence but I hardly think they are the people to ask for fairness in anything that has to do with Casey's future.

 

[OneLostGrl]

People are very rarely, if ever, damaged by lawyers. They are damaged by their own actions/inactions; choices and statements. That some may have been proven to be unwise is certainly not the fault of any lawyer.

I hold a special place in my heart for lawyers, haven't been let down by one yet and mine have always been court appointed. LOL