Coronavirus COVID-19 *Global Health Emergency* #7

[MJPeony]

Korean Air flight attendant with coronavirus reportedly serviced 400-seat aircraft that flew between South Korea and US twice — here's the list of the known routes she flew

The specific routes she flew are important, but I’d say any route that that specific aircraft took would also be germane.

Flight attendants are ALL over an airplane- Touching and restocking stuff, using the overhead phone/loudspeaker, touching the safety demo stuff, etc etc etc.

I hope they thoroughly disinfect the plane. Although it could be too late for people who were already flying in it- even if they weren’t on that flight attendant’s flights!

MOO

 

[margarita25]

Some of the Diamond Princess folks were brought to Lakeland Air Force Base in San Antonio.

Thank you, yes. I was just catching up on that here:

Total Confirmed COVID-19 Cases At Lackland Rises To 6

ETA: making note because CDC was clear to indicate they are labeling the groups in two as far as separating the DO passenger...

I hope that Texas spot map was color coded also to indicate this. Need to go back and look.

Just trying to keep things real clear here re: facts. So this doesn’t refer to sustained transmission on domestic oil of any sort, just making sure they’re putting Texas on the map due to repatriation. Is that correct?

 

[Herat]

Qantas uses HERPES disinfectant during a 36-hour long deep clean of its planes in an attempt to stop the deadly coronavirus from spreading

Qantas has used hospital-grade cleaning solution capable of stopping sexually transmitted diseases to clean planes carrying people from Wuhan.

Qantas uses HERPES disinfectant to clean planes to stop coronavirus spreading in Australia | Daily Mail Online

Wondering if this stuff is on Amazon for the coronavirus not an STD.

Does it come in a scented bubble bath formula?

 

[Henry2326]

Thank you, yes. I was just catching up on that here:

Total Confirmed COVID-19 Cases At Lackland Rises To 6

ETA: making note because CDC was clear to indicate they are labeling the groups in two.

I hope that Texas spot map was color coded also to indicate this. Need to go back and look.

Just trying to keep things real clear here re: facts. So this doesn’t refer to sustained transmission on domestic oil of any sort, just making sure they’re putting Texas on the map due to repatriation. Is that correct?

Yes....correct

 

[MJPeony]

I respectfully disagree.....it might end up that way, but its not certain. There are many variables that need to be explored that we have no idea.
Add: we know about the incubation period and some people have no symptoms, which is one of many scenarios....

Very true- it’s not foregone conclusion the new case is related to Travis Air Force Base.

However.... I’m starting to think about all of those Travis Air Force Base evacuees who were let out after 14 days.... weren’t there quite a few who already “completed their quarantine”?

If the 14 day quarantine is too short (looks like cases are popping up that show it is in fact not long enough), then we’ve got a real problem with those evacuees being let out. And if so, the fact this new case is in Solano County sounds just about right.

MOO.

 

[otto]

NEW: CDC statement on first U.S. case possibly involving local human-to-human transmission of coronavirus - Northern CA BNO Newsroom on Twitter

BNO Newsroom on Twitter

CDC response in attached document.....

I don't mean to be an alarmist, but it sounds like there are a lot of pockets of suspected virus in the USA, yet the international number count don't reflect those numbers. Italy and Iran had outbreaks, now London,

Asia is hooped, how bad is it? Do 24 year olds just get really sick, sicker than they've ever been before, and tail off with brochitis, barely avoiding pneumonia - does the lifespan tailspin mean 24 year olds get this contagious virus and live to 60, 70 instead of 90, 100?

 

[Auntie Cipation]

Very true- it’s not foregone conclusion the new case is related to Travis Air Force Base.

However.... I’m starting to think about all of those Travis Air Force Base evacuees who were let out after 14 days.... weren’t there quite a few who already “completed their quarantine”?

If the 14 day quarantine is too short (looks like cases are popping up that show it is in fact not long enough), then we’ve got a real problem with those evacuees being let out. And if so, the fact this new case is in Solano County sounds just about right.

MOO.

That sounds spot on in terms of probability. So folks were allowed to resume their life after 14 days if they weren't showing symptoms/positive test.

Some of those folks might be working on a longer incubation period and might not feel sick yet but be contagious already.

Or, didn't we discuss earlier the possibility of carriers who don't ever get sick but can pass the virus along?

So anyone may have used a shopping cart/gas pump/ATM machine after one of the released Travis folks, and there's probably no way to trace that.

So then we're into the next phase, "spreading within the community".

Eep.

 

[margarita25]

Here is confirmation....

Coronavirus: Solano Co. resident 1st possible case of person-to-person transmission | KTVU FOX 2

Damn.

ETA:

Shiver.

 

[Henry2326]

Very true- it’s not foregone conclusion the new case is related to Travis Air Force Base.

However.... I’m starting to think about all of those Travis Air Force Base evacuees who were let out after 14 days.... weren’t there quite a few who already “completed their quarantine”?

If the 14 day quarantine is too short (looks like cases are popping up that show it is in fact not long enough), then we’ve got a real problem with those evacuees being let out. And if so, the fact this new case is in Solano County sounds just about right.

MOO.

Also a possibility. We know he is a resident of Solano County, but we don't know if he worked in the area or not. It's quite important to trace this to patient zero so we can understand if the virus is possibly changing.

 

[KALI]

Places to avoid while this is going on? The economic impact IMO will be severe.

Here's a few on my immediate thought list. Please add your ideas... Planes, trains cruise ships. Buffets and salad bars, Casinos, sporting events, movie theaters, Costco and Walmart. Swap meets and large Farmer's markets. Large busy restaurants, large music concerts, emergency rooms, large parties and conventions.
I am talking about avoiding, not banning.
As this virus seems to be moving rapidly, these are my thoughts.
Am I over thinking this?
Your ideas and thoughts? TIA

 

[Henry2326]

I don't mean to be an alarmist, but it sounds like there are a lot of pockets of suspected virus in the USA, yet the international number count don't reflect those numbers. Italy and Iran had outbreaks, now London,

Asia is hooped, how bad is it? Do 24 year olds just get really sick, sicker than they've ever been before, and tail off with brochitis, barely avoiding pneumonia - does the lifespan tailspin mean 24 year olds get this contagious virus and live to 60, 70 instead of 90, 100?

It's because they implemented significant control measures by locking down their countries. They slowed down the community spread.

 

[margarita25]

Solano County - Homepage

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Possible ‘community spread’ coronavirus case in Solano County

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Description
Solano County is a county located in the U.S. state of California. As of the 2010 census, the population was 413,344. The county seat is Fairfield. Wikipedia

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“Of Unknown Origin”

Ugh...

Health Officials Confirm New Coronavirus Case Of Unknown Origin In Solano County
February 26, 2020 at 7:15 pm

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Coronavirus Northern California: New case confirmed in Solano County, origin unknown

Updated 43 minutes ago
SOLANO COUNTY, Calif. (KGO) -- A new case of the novel coronavirus has been detected in Northern California in a resident who has not traveled overseas since the outbreak began.

This suggests the virus could be spreading locally, person-to-person, the CDC said.

[..]

“The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) has confirmed an infection with the virus that causes COVID-19 in California in a person who reportedly did not have relevant travel history or exposure to another known patient with COVID-19," the CDC said in a press release.”

Going for Press Release etc

http://www.solanocounty.com/civicax/filebank/blobdload.aspx?BlobID=21620

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Coronavirus Disease 2019

Media Statement
For Immediate Release: Wednesday, February 26, 2020
Contact: Media Relations
(404) 639-3286

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) has confirmed an infection with the virus that causes COVID-19 in California in a person who reportedly did not have relevant travel history or exposure to another known patient with COVID-19.

At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States. Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.

This case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians. This brings the total number of COVID-19 cases in the United States to 15.

The federal government has been working closely with state, local, tribal, and territorial partners, as well as public health partners, to respond to this public health threat. Unprecedented, aggressive efforts have been taken to contain the spread and mitigate the impact of this virus.

This is a rapidly evolving situation. CDC will continue to update the public as circumstances warrant. For more information about COVID-19 visit www.cdc.gov/covid19.

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U.S. DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH AND HUMAN SERVICESexternal icon

CDC works 24/7 protecting America’s health, safety and security. Whether disease start at home or abroad, are curable or preventable, chronic or acute, or from human activity or deliberate attack, CDC responds to America’s most pressing health threats. CDC is headquartered in Atlanta and has experts located throughout the United States and the world.

 

[otto]

I’m still catching up....thank you for this.

I have a fear that our government will start NOT releasing specific areas where the virus is confirmed. In the interest of not wanting the public to panic...

I’m probably being too cynical....

We have to look at what is going on now, and try to figure out what will happen next. China has been harsh with quarantine and hauling people out of houses dead or alive, but China has contained the virus outside of air travel. Air travel containment was supposed to be countries knowing that they had an infected person, and containing the virus.

Today it looks like a lot of places screwed up and the virus not only leaked from China, with the full approval of the WHO, but not everyone self-isolated and now there are global outbreaks.

Coming to a town near you soon ... something about this didn't sound right from the beginning, something along the lines of thousands of sick people in need of medical care to live and not enough health care workers, provisions, hospitals and the crematoriums running non-stop for weeks in China.

 

[Henry2326]

Places to avoid while this is going on? The economic impact IMO will be severe.

Here's a few on my immediate thought list. Please add your ideas... Planes, trains cruise ships. Buffets and salad bars, Casinos, sporting events, movie theaters, Costco and Walmart. Swap meets and large Farmer's markets. Large busy restaurants, large music concerts, emergency rooms, large parties and conventions.
I am talking about avoiding, not banning.
As this virus seems to be moving rapidly, these are my thoughts.
Am I over thinking this?
Your ideas and thoughts? TIA

Your not over thinking it. But keep in mind, there is plenty we don't know about it. For example, why hasn't it taken hold in the southern hemisphere yet?

 

[gngr~snap]

Doesn't it live on surfaces for up to 9 days? (No need for human to human contact)
Cars, bus, Uber, Lyft, ATM's,
restaurant menus, vending machines... the list goes in and is a major can o worms!
IMO
Coronavirus more contagious than SARS or MERS, can live on surfaces for up to 9 days, studies say

 

[Henry2326]

In progress
(CDC) has confirmed an infection with the virus that causes COVID-19 in California in a person who reportedly did not have relevant travel history or exposure to another known patient with COVID-19," the CDC said in a press release.”

Going for Press Release brb

Looks like they are running with community spread...

 

[galiuro1]

Seeing stuff that the new California patient had been on a ventilator for a week at another hospital before he was transferred to UC Davis...seeing it in Ian Mackay's twitter feed but not found anything to link to other than that...if you search for Ian go with MackayIM ...he's a virologist from Australia

 

[Deleted member 158085]

Georgia Officials Helping Almost 200 People Monitor Themselves For Coronavirus | 90.1 FM WABE

"State public health officials are helping about 200 people in Georgia monitor themselves for signs of COVID-19, the pneumonia-like disease caused by the 2019 novel coronavirus......

Drenzek said the group of travelers was referred to the state by federal agencies screening incoming passengers from China for COVID-19 at 11 U.S. airports, including Atlanta’s Hartsfield-Jackson International.

Georgia DPH has instructed them on how to monitor themselves for symptoms such as fever, cough, and shortness of breath–and to call the agency before visiting a doctor’s office or hospital if they feel they might be sick. In a statement, the agency says the individuals are “self-isolating at home.”

Drenzek said, so far, only a “handful” of people in Georgia have been tested for COVID-19, but those tests have come back negative."

I don't know. I assume this is the same group. It just says they are self quarantining and only a handful of GA residents have been tested. I'm not sure all those 200 people would be a handful. It doesn't seem to say those people were tested.

Do we know what date these people came in? My husband had a layover in Atlanta not long ago.

 

[margarita25]

Coronavirus Disease 2019

Media Statement
For Immediate Release: Wednesday, February 26, 2020
Contact: Media Relations
(404) 639-3286

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) has confirmed an infection with the virus that causes COVID-19 in California in a person who reportedly did not have relevant travel history or exposure to another known patient with COVID-19.

At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States. Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.

This case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians. This brings the total number of COVID-19 cases in the United States to 15.

The federal government has been working closely with state, local, tribal, and territorial partners, as well as public health partners, to respond to this public health threat. Unprecedented, aggressive efforts have been taken to contain the spread and mitigate the impact of this virus.

This is a rapidly evolving situation. CDC will continue to update the public as circumstances warrant. For more information about COVID-19 visit www.cdc.gov/covid19.

###
U.S. DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH AND HUMAN SERVICESexternal icon

CDC works 24/7 protecting America’s health, safety and security. Whether disease start at home or abroad, are curable or preventable, chronic or acute, or from human activity or deliberate attack, CDC responds to America’s most pressing health threats. CDC is headquartered in Atlanta and has experts located throughout the United States and the world.

 

[otto]

Trump says coronavirus risk to Americans 'very low,' puts Pence in charge of gov't response

The president addressed the outbreak at the White House, surrounded by the administration's public health experts.

President Donald Trump on Wednesday attempted to ease growing fears over the spreading coronavirus, saying at the White House that his administration has the situation under control and is "ready to adapt" if the virus spreads.

"Because of all we've done, the risk to the American people remains very low," Trump said. "We're ready to adapt and ready to do whatever we have to as the disease spreads, if it spreads.


"We're very, very ready for this," Trump said, adding that only 15 people had contracted the virus in the U.S. and all were expected to recover...

Mr Trump is not a doctor, so probably not a good source of information about global epidemics. Hopefully, in the future, he will introduce global experts who can speak to the global epidemic pandemic. We don't need his paraphrasing.