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I see there have been a few school closures re Covid already- no link but easily googable- with the again eyeroll worthy “we’re wiping surfaces and deep disinfecting classrooms and we’ll be back in session tomorrow”. We’re now in year four or five of this airborne transmitted virus and haven’t seemed to have learned a whole lot.

“For less than the cost of a textbook”
www.9news.com

Research shows air filters in classrooms improves overall ventilation and air quality

A study born out of the pandemic is now expanding beyond concerns of just infectious diseases, and helping to improve air quality in schools across the state.
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weepingangel said:
That recommendation just seems silly imo. I’ve only caught Covid from people that I know *shrug*

I haven’t kept up with summer surge trends outside the US, but we’re still going strong here and it’s back to school time as well so…
www.cdc.gov

Wastewater COVID-19 National and Regional Trends

CDC’s National Wastewater Surveillance System, U.S. National trends
www.cdc.gov www.cdc.gov

Eta based on this weeks graph, it looks like most regions might have peaked for this round, except for the NE
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I completely agree, I did do a double take on the recommendation. I guess you may know where people you know have been, but then in a group of work colleagues, I would know them all, but not where they have been.
We have been surging for a while here but it’s anecdotal as it’s not measured. I do like your graphs. I don’t believe we have anything publicly available like that.
Edited to add. From what I understand, the strains aren’t any milder. I don’t get the eye roll. I am always respectful of other when I have covid and wouldn’t dream of going into work or going shopping.
 
OnlyS said:
I completely agree, I did do a double take on the recommendation. I guess you may know where people you know have been, but then in a group of work colleagues, I would know them all, but not where they have been.
We have been surging for a while here but it’s anecdotal as it’s not measured. I do like your graphs. I don’t believe we have anything publicly available like that.
Edited to add. From what I understand, the strains aren’t any milder. I don’t get the eye roll. I am always respectful of other when I have covid and wouldn’t dream of going into work or going shopping.
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If you’re referring to my eyeroll in the subsequent post, it was rolling towards my employer and the healthcare industry in general. Imo masks should be required by staff and visitors of all types of medical facilities - at minimum at least during surges before cases are peaking (Including drs offices, elderly care facilities, pharmacies etc) My apologies as I often don’t post as clearly as I should.
 
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OnlyS said:
We have been surging for a while here but it’s anecdotal as it’s not measured. I do like your graphs. I don’t believe we have anything publicly available like that.
Edited to add. From what I understand, the strains aren’t any milder.
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Rsbm
The wastewater charts are pretty much all we have anymore and I think? The CDC was going to discontinue those soon (maybe don’t quote me on that). It’s so helpful to see the levels nationwide imo. My state does have an ok seasonal (seasonal- ha) respiratory report. Which I believe they started early this year due to summer Covid. And my local wastewater system does test, hopefully will continue to do so. But that’s all we have for numbers. Poop levels.

anecdotally, it doesn’t seem milder I agree. Seeing folks still losing smell and taste, bad body flu symptoms, gi stuff, and the usual cold and throat symptoms, as well as long lasting exhaustion . Not sure about the cough? And some breeze through with mild one or two day cold symptoms. And then the asymptotic folks too. It seems so random that way.

Came back to edit - hospitalizations and deaths are at a much much lower amount now, so there is good news. Now if we can just keep the failing healthcare system afloat.


Take care !
 
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weepingangel said:
Rsbm
The wastewater charts are pretty much all we have anymore and I think? The CDC was going to discontinue those soon (maybe don’t quote me on that). It’s so helpful to see the levels nationwide imo. My state does have an ok seasonal (seasonal- ha) respiratory report. Which I believe they started early this year due to summer Covid. And my local wastewater system does test, hopefully will continue to do so. But that’s all we have for numbers. Poop levels.

anecdotally, it doesn’t seem milder I agree. Seeing folks still losing smell and taste, bad body flu symptoms, gi stuff, and the usual cold and throat symptoms, as well as long lasting exhaustion . Not sure about the cough? And some breeze through with mild one or two day cold symptoms. And then the asymptotic folks too. It seems so random that way.

Came back to edit - hospitalizations and deaths are at a much much lower amount now, so there is good news. Now if we can just keep the failing healthcare system afloat.


Take care !
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I'd like to add to your list of worries... "brain fog" which scares the bejeebies out of me. I need my wits about me at all times. If I'm unable to think or concentrate I'm going to be in a world of hurt. :(
 
Gemmie said:
I agree that "recommend wearing masks in groups of people, particularly those you don’t know" isn't a real smart thing to tell people.

I was JUST telling someone after reading that post that "Covid isn't less catchy from someone you know, it's the same regardless if it's a total stranger, or the man or woman you married to the children you bore."!! It seems like that might make some people (the ones with less common sense IMO) that you're less likely to catch it from friends and family, That's not the right message to send IMO. :(
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Sundog said:
But we know more about the habits of our family members who live with us, the risks or lack of risks they take, their handwashing habits, etc. so this advice does make sense. In a crowded space with strangers, we don't know if they just flew back on a crowded plan from overseas, or if they work in a hospital emergency department and are exposed daily to easily transmitted disease, etc. So with an abundance of caution, we might want to mask up in those contexts.
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It is misleading the way it's phrased. Knowing people doesn't make them less risky, but using what you know about them (ie how covid cautious they are in their own behavior) does let you decide if someone is a lower risk.

So the message should be "mask around *all* people except those you know to be highly covid-cautionary in their daily lives.

I have a friend visiting right now from out of town. I know she had been almost completely isolated for weeks before coming up to my area. We are making only a few visits to very selective others indoors, folks we know to be very solitary. Ventures into stores are few and quick and done first thing upon opening. All other visits are outdoors in the breeze.

Is this 100% protective? No, not by a long shot. But if our precautions remove, say, 80% of the risk as compared to those who pretend covid is "over", maybe that's our comfort zone where we are still able to do most desired activities but with minor adjustments to drastically lower our risk and protect our health.
 
Gemmie said:
I'd like to add to your list of worries... "brain fog" which scares the bejeebies out of me. I need my wits about me at all times. If I'm unable to think or concentrate I'm going to be in a world of hurt. :(
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The brain fog is so bad. I hate it. Things I used to understand easily now take forever to read through (and usually need a second read through). I lose words and names mid sentence. I used to be the type of person who was the organizer and planner--and now I can barely get through a grocery list some days. My high school senior with long Covid has the same thing and his schooling has suffered for the last year and a half. The most recent bout in December (masked, but took it off for a second to eat at school in the dean's office) attacked his ability to memorize and recall things.

Do not recommend.
 
weepingangel said:

COVID-19’s summer surge shows no signs of slowing down​

Story by Nathaniel Weixel
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Before I even clicked on the article my first thought was there's no signs of it slowing down because IMO the majority of people act like it's over. And there it was in the article (Most put the pandemic in the rearview mirror). Maybe if a very deadly strain comes along people will be more cautious.

Key takeaways from the article you posted:

While most of the country and the federal government has put the pandemic in the rearview mirror, the virus is mutating and new variants emerging.

experts think it could be the biggest summer wave yet.

there’s no certainty about how the virus may yet change and what happens next.
 
Knox said:
We've had two positives at work, week before last. Two more out this week, but tested negative - though symptoms are identical to the positives.

Last month an employee at my other facility called in because her 1 year-old tested positive. Her pediatrician was not concerned at all, told Mom to keep her home and in three or four days she could go back to childcare. I thought to myself - Covid shut down the entire world, but this is how it's viewed now?
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One of the hospitals near me announced that nurses and other hospital workers are allowed to work after testing positive for COVID if they wear a mask.
 
IceIce9 said:
One of the hospitals near me announced that nurses and other hospital workers are allowed to work after testing positive for COVID if they wear a mask.
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Like those ill-fitting blue surgical masks that some wear here, with gaps at the bridge of the nose a the cheeks, allowing their breath to go out the top and sides? Or a well-fitting N95 mask?

You don't have to answer. I know where I'm putting my money and it's not on the one I wish they'd wear.
 
www.nbcnews.com

The signature symptoms of long Covid in kids

A study reveals how the illness can present differently for school-age children and teens. Common symptoms include headaches, stomach pain, fatigue and muscle pain.
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Millions of U.S. children have had long Covid, estimates suggest, but less is known about their symptoms than those of adults.

A large, national study offers new insights into what the post-viral illness looks like in kids and teens, suggesting that they experience a markedly different set of symptoms from adults. Although Covid itself has historically been milder in kids, the results indicate that many have debilitating, long-term side effects that make it difficult to attend school, participate in extracurriculars or spend time with family or friends.

“This is a public health crisis for children,” said Dr. Rachel Gross, the study’s lead author and an associate professor of pediatrics at the New York University Grossman School of Medicine.

“Experiences of chronic illness affect them as they grow, and it impacts the health of the adults that they become,” she said...
 
anneg said:
I got a dose of last year's vaccine in late May, so if I wait 4 months, it will be late September. But we are planning to fly to California in late September to visit relatives, so maybe we should get the newer version before we go.
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FYI to you, @anneg, and others that wants the updated vaccine coming out this fall, but thought you had to wait at least 4 months from your last vaccine (like I had mistakenly thought).

The FDA said Thursday that people 5 and older are eligible to receive an updated Pfizer or Moderna Covid-19 vaccine as long as it has been at least two months since their last dose.

 
Gemmie said:
FYI to you, @anneg, and others that wants the updated vaccine coming out this fall, but thought you had to wait at least 4 months from your last vaccine (like I had mistakenly thought).

The FDA said Thursday that people 5 and older are eligible to receive an updated Pfizer or Moderna Covid-19 vaccine as long as it has been at least two months since their last dose.

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Thank you, that's good news!
 
Jsizzle said:
This has been going on for years. My sister is an ER doctor in Philly. She’s tested positive multiple times and gone to work.
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current CDC Guidelines say if you are not symptomatic, just go on with life:
You can go back to your normal activities when, for at least 24 hours, both are true:
they do suggest masking,cleaning, etc.
 
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