Coronavirus - COVID-19 - Global Health Pandemic #23

[BayouBelle_LA]

To any American this is a deadly, serious disease that NO concerned citizen should make light of.

If most people have moderate flu symptoms, great. The death rate is higher than the recovery rate in the US right now. Think about that. And if you have any older family members or those with other health problems, it's extremely serious.

It's bold caps x1000. If we don't take it seriously, we're screwed.

Be well, all.

Unless I’m misunderstanding you, the death rate is not higher than the recovery rate. I think its irresponsible to sensationalize this.

 

[dixiegirl1035]

I found todays CDC COCA phone very interesting and new infomation. There is going to be another one focused on nursing /long term care facilities next Tuesday for those that want to listen in. At the link, you can listen also to previous ones.
CDC Clinician Outreach and Communication Activity - COCA

 

[Trudie]

How To Convince Your Parents They Should Take COVID-19 Seriously

 

[galiuro1]

I take Losartan and I decided to stay on it and only address it with my doctor if I get COVID-19, since that’s the time it puts you at a disadvantage. For me, that seems the most reasonable approach. I don’t want to add the stress of trying a new med right now if I don’t need to.
JMO

Yep that's been my approach as well...

 

[Alathea]

Unless I’m misunderstanding you, the death rate is not higher than the recovery rate. I think its irresponsible to sensationalize this.

Good point. Sorry about that. I should have said the numbers. A higher number will recover, in the future.

The numbers now (it changes by the minute)
United States
Coronavirus Cases: 2,466
Deaths: 50
Recovered: 41

 

[dixiegirl1035]

I heard it too, from a Dr. Jen Aston interview. So I googled and found this:

Number of all hospital beds in the U.S. 1975-2017. Trends indicate that the overall number of hospital beds in the U.S. is decreasing. In 1975, there were about 1.5 million hospital beds in the U.S., but until 2017 the number dropped to just about 931 thousand.

This has list of hospital beds per capita for countries. US is #32 on the list.

List of OECD countries by hospital beds - Wikipedia

 

[LaborDayRN]

Obviously I can’t “like” your post. I hope some creative marketing can turn things around. Maybe advertise “small, intimate dining.” Wish I could take some of that fresh fish off your hands.

@KALI
I just remembered a story that I watched on the news 2 days ago. It was about a So Cal Chinese restaurant. The reporters were there to cover the story of how the restaurant was handling the crisis. They were checking their staffs temperatures every 4? hours. The staff were all wearing masks. They were disinfecting doors, tables, bathrooms etc often. They have even gone to the extra step of checking all customers temperatures before they are allowed to enter. The customers were all in favor of the changes and said that they felt it was safer to eat there than elsewhere.

 

[LaborDayRN]

Good night all. My computer is at 2 percent!!! I need help. Who do I call in the local government to complain about stuffing hundreds of folks in a courtroom for hours, knowing the trial was going to be delayed, knowing that this virus has been rapidly spreading?

TIA

Your local health department would be my guess.

 

[firebird]

#2: Your statement is non-factual. There is evidence this virus is at least 10x more deadly than the flu - most likely up to 40x as deadly. Do the math - right now it is 60x as deadly if one does the math on one's own, but the CDC and other officials/experts claim it is about 10x more deadly than the flu - for now. As for car accidents - nevermind.

Please link your source for the deadliness of corona.

 

[SandyQLS]

Earlier on Friday 3/13 (last thread), there were 9 cases in Riverside County, CA.

Positive coronavirus test to lead to tests at Coachella Valley nursing facility – Press Enterprise

Paraphrasing: 1 patient at a nursing home in Rancho Mirage, CA (near famous Palm Springs) has tested positive for COVID19. All patients of the 99-bed facility and all employees will be tested. This brings the total cases for Riverside County to 12 residents with 2 of them from the Diamond Princess cruise ship who have not returned to the county.

My comment: How did this patient qualify for COVID19 testing? They must have had pneumonia AND an exposure of some kind to qualify? Anyway, sounds like bad news - could become another hotspot like Kirkland, WA

 

[LaborDayRN]

Please, somebody in the know.
I heard a talk show host announce today, that the United States only has 925,000. Hospital beds, for a country of over 363 million people.
Is this true???

Total Staffed Beds in All U.S. Hospitals

924,107

Fast Facts on U.S. Hospitals, 2020 | AHA

 

[Lilibet]

We ordered thousands of dollars of food for our restaurant yesterday. Normal type of order.
I did call my chef and ask her to really watch her ordering.
Last night "thursday" sales were $320.00.
We sell a lot of seafood at our restaurant. Tomorrow, I'm going in to inventory and place 85% of that beautiful fresh fish into a freezer.
Our monthly lease for our restaurant is $5,200.00. I've not sent them a dime yet for this month.
I'm not even sure WHAT I'm going to send them. I have to keep my employees paid, the lights on and my food vendors paid. No food, no electricity, no employees= bankruptcy.
We've been at this location for 17 years. I told my husband this morning. "What are they going to do? Throw us out? Then what? Find another experienced restaurant to take over? Give the new tenant, if they can find one, 4 months of free rent and $20,000.00 or more in build out costs"?
All of this just sucks.
We've been planning on selling our restaurant this summer. Hubby is 73 and had major open heart surgery 1 year ago this month.
He's working double shifts 6 days a week.
His doctor told him to slow down, that he's "fresh off the table."
Neither hubby or myself have ever seen anything like this in our lives.

BTW. I was in banking for many years. The only way you can get a Small Business Loan from the Small Business Administration (SBA) is if you don't NEED one.
It's always been a big joke in the banking industry.

We're pretty screwed.

This is awful @KALI. I’m sure much of your business is word of mouth with locals. Is there a way to let them know it’s safe to come eat? I’ve been getting emails from lots of businesses reassuring me of the steps they’re taking to sanitize, etc. I realize you may not have customer’s emails, but is there a local paper you could contact and get them to write a story, like the Chinese restaurant mentioned here?

 

[Tripod]

Oh KALI! I'm so sorry you are dealing with this! I wish I had some helpful advice but I can't come up with any. This whole situation STINKS!

I'm going to optimistically hope that you and your husband CAN get some help from the SBA, and others, to get you over this bump until you are able to sell your restaurant. Have a heart to heart with the landlord and maybe make a bunch of phone calls to see what's out there. Just today I saw a very good FB add from a local restaurant gearing up to do home meal deliveries. It was a catchy ad, which is what caught my eye. Prayers up, Kali!!

 

[mickey2942]

Brawls break out at Costco, Sam's Club amid coronavirus outbreak tensions

This is a bit of levity. I could totally see how this could happen.

 

[Betty P]

Yikes guys!! Whoa, take a deep breath. Then go research. They "reached an agreement". A possible ray of sunshine in relief in this terrible situation should be appreciated, not an opportunity to bash the leaders of a wonderful country we are all lucky to live in. Yeeesh!

We'll have to see what comes out at the end and judge from there. It will be possible to assign blame if necessary if you follow it step by step. JMO, the end result is unknown for now and once it's enacted, don't automatically believe what you read in the news media.

 

[Alathea]

Please link your source for the deadliness of corona.

Sorry, need to go offline and am in a super rush but wanted to reply really quickly. I'll do better tomorrow, but for starters:

• COVID-19: As of the World Health Organizations March 11th report, there are 118,322 confirmed cases of COVID-19 worldwide. Of those, 4,292 people have died. That is a 3.63% mortality rate (20 to 36x more deadly than the flu)
• 2019 coronavirus is 20 times deadlier than the seasonal flu: Study
• Coronavirus is deadlier than flu with seniors at highest risk (20x more deadly)
• Coronavirus Death Rate vs. Flu: How Deadly Is It? | Heavy.com (34 times more deadly)
• Coronavirus 10 times more lethal than seasonal flu, top health official says
• https://bigthink.com/politics-current-affairs/covid-19-vs-flu
• Coronavirus Death Rate vs. Flu: How Deadly Is It? | Heavy.com

 

[Ursamajr]

I am beyond PISSED OFF at the people who have caused this hysteria. It is abusive to the most vulnerable in our population and it's shameful. Time to unwatch this thread again.

I agree and I think that if the people had been provided with the correct and factual information from the start, people like this elderly couple wouldn't be in a panic. It's almost been as if "Nothing to see here! Move along! Calm down, everything is fine!" didn't work. You never tell a person who is not calm to "calm down"... I thought everyone knew that

 

[Trudie]

@SandyQLS I bet the patient has a family member/visitor that just returned from abroad or a family member/visitor
testing positive and alerted the facility.

 

[Betty P]

Not to be Debbie Downer, but I see the economy being wrecked. Most people cannot go more than a fews day without income from their jobs. I sure hope I am WRONG.

Make some calls and let the right people know how you feel. It's important.

 

[Trudie]

It will be interesting to see what the next few days bring.
For the life of me idk how my community will persuade people to stay home.