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The number of people already infected by the mystery virus emerging in China is far greater than official figures suggest, scientists have told the BBC.
There have been 41 laboratory-confirmed cases of the new virus, but UK experts estimate the figure is closer to 1,700.
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New virus in China ‘will have infected hundreds'
Up to 4,500 patients in China may have caught the same strain of coronavirus that has killed two people, scientists fear.
Health officials in Wuhan – the city at the heart of the outbreak which started in December – confirmed four new cases today, taking the total to 48.
But Imperial College London researchers say this may be the 'tip of the iceberg' after analysing flights out of the city.
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Scientists fear up to 4,500 Chinese patients may have caught the new coronavirus | Daily Mail Online

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Case details for US and Canada:
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Case details for the entire world:
Coronavirus Update (Live): 206,893 Cases and 8,272 Deaths from COVID-19 Virus Outbreak - Worldometer

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Until/unless Tricia, or a Mod or Admin gives approval to discuss any political aspect of this situation, the usual rules apply (no political snipes, debate talks, no election, ballots, Reps/Dems, Constitution, Pelosi, footballs, etc).

Discuss the President's health as it is presented via MSM or information from the WH or the President's medical personnel, and as it relates to his Covid diagnosis only. Let the rest unfold as it happens without dragging politics into this discussion.

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COVID-19 & CANCER

Harvard/Dana-Farber Study October 8, 2020

Biology of cancer & COVID-19: Weakened immune system
Changes in patient care: Routine screening down by 85-90%
Effects on cancer research: Expected decrease of $200m in donations
Estimated increase in future death rates by 4-17% in 5 years
Source: Harvard Medical School

The COVID-19 pandemic has impacted virtually every aspect of cancer care and research– from introducing new risks for cancer patients to disrupting the delivery of cancer treatment and the continuity of cancer research, a review of scientific literature shows. The report, by researchers at Dana-Farber Cancer Institute and other institutions, suggests that while COVID-19 has complicated the treatment of cancer patients, it has also spurred creative solutions to challenges in clinical care, and research into the new disease is benefiting from insights gained over years of cancer research.

While much remains to be learned about the intersection of cancer and COVID-19, the new paper, published online by Cancer Cell, represents the most comprehensive survey to date about what physicians have learned, and what research is suggesting, about the interrelationship between the two diseases, the authors said.

“COVID-19 has been responsible for killing more than one million people worldwide. Among those most at risk of developing severe forms of the illness are patients with cancer,” said Ziad Bakouny of Dana-Farber, the co-lead author of the study with Jessica Hawley of Columbia University Medical Center. “Research into why patients with cancer are at heightened risk is moving very quickly. In this paper, we look at the state of the science in this area and others related to these two illnesses.”

The paper summarizes findings in four areas: the interconnected biology of cancer and COVID-19; changes in patient care prompted by the pandemic; effects on cancer research; and insights from cancer research applicable to the treatment of COVID-19.

How COVID-19 impacts cancer research and treatment
 
CharlestonGal said:
That headline is misleading. Trump will be in DC and Dr Seigel in NY.

"Trump's Fox interview with Siegel will air at 8 p.m. Friday. The president will appear on camera remotely from the White House and Siegel will tune in from New York, according to a press release."
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I guess if he can get something as serious as a Coronavirus evaluation virtually, it should be no problem doing a simple debate the same way.
 
 
cass523 said:
COVID-19 & CANCER

Harvard/Dana-Farber Study October 8, 2020

Biology of cancer & COVID-19: Weakened immune system
Changes in patient care: Routine screening down by 85-90%
Effects on cancer research: Expected decrease of $200m in donations
Estimated increase in future death rates by 4-17% in 5 years
Source: Harvard Medical School

The COVID-19 pandemic has impacted virtually every aspect of cancer care and research– from introducing new risks for cancer patients to disrupting the delivery of cancer treatment and the continuity of cancer research, a review of scientific literature shows. The report, by researchers at Dana-Farber Cancer Institute and other institutions, suggests that while COVID-19 has complicated the treatment of cancer patients, it has also spurred creative solutions to challenges in clinical care, and research into the new disease is benefiting from insights gained over years of cancer research.

While much remains to be learned about the intersection of cancer and COVID-19, the new paper, published online by Cancer Cell, represents the most comprehensive survey to date about what physicians have learned, and what research is suggesting, about the interrelationship between the two diseases, the authors said.

“COVID-19 has been responsible for killing more than one million people worldwide. Among those most at risk of developing severe forms of the illness are patients with cancer,” said Ziad Bakouny of Dana-Farber, the co-lead author of the study with Jessica Hawley of Columbia University Medical Center. “Research into why patients with cancer are at heightened risk is moving very quickly. In this paper, we look at the state of the science in this area and others related to these two illnesses.”

The paper summarizes findings in four areas: the interconnected biology of cancer and COVID-19; changes in patient care prompted by the pandemic; effects on cancer research; and insights from cancer research applicable to the treatment of COVID-19.

How COVID-19 impacts cancer research and treatment
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Just the repurposing of PCR and CRISPR technology, alone, has impacted cancer and many other kinds of research. Huge setback in an area that has had declining funding over the past 20 years.

It's a vicious circle, obviously.

When a population gets as large as the human population, viruses have a much greater chance of mutating and attacking (like the various flus). These weaken the immune system of some people, particularly those who were born with less innate immunity. Oddly, the very genes that make some people (mostly Europeans) have a stronger immune system are causing two things: asymptomatic transmission of COVid but also higher mortality when the person with those genes gets a severe case. IOW, the cytokine/bradykine storm is more intense in those with more robust immune systems (and we don't know what flips that switch in CoVid patients).

So cancer patients most likely have immunity issues in the first place (and certainly do as a result of most treatments). Dips in the immune system from even asymptomatic or mild CoVId may be a factor in future cancer rates. It's "normal" for cancers to appear as people get older (because humoral immunity slows down and then...stops) but other viruses seem to have increased younger people's chances of cancer (really difficult to determine in any research situation, but certain an hypothesis).

Cancer issue: Viruses and Human Cancer

So yeah, I'm not going to be "sent out" to restaurants or bars or theaters any time soon and many, many people much younger than me feel the same way. This virus has too many already-known effects, even on the asymptomatic.
 
Video: How COVID-19 spread across the U.S. 'untamed' in this time-lapse | Boston.com
Time lapse at link




COVID-19 transmission rebounds quickly after physical distancing rules are relaxed
PRESS RELEASE5 MINUTE READOCT | 6 | 2020
COVID-19 transmission rebounds quickly after physical distancing rules are relaxed
BOSTON – Across the U.S., the relaxation of statewide physical distancing measures that are designed to control the COVID-19 pandemic frequently resulted in an immediate reversal of public health gains against SARS-CoV-2, the virus that causes the disease, researchers from Massachusetts General Hospital (MGH) and colleagues reported.




An ER doctor at Brigham and Women’s says to halt indoor dining in Mass. | Boston.com
A Boston emergency room doctor is urging state officials to halt indoor dining and make other adjustments to the state’s reopening, raising concerns about where Massachusetts is heading with controlling the coronavirus through the fall and winter months.
 
CharlestonGal said:
That headline is misleading. Trump will be in DC and Dr Seigel in NY.

"Trump's Fox interview with Siegel will air at 8 p.m. Friday. The president will appear on camera remotely from the White House and Siegel will tune in from New York, according to a press release."
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Yeah, cuz the doctor knows not to be in a room with him at this point in time - unless both are masked and the doctor is in full PPE.

No matter how much the doctor is getting paid, it isn't enough to risk transmission of CoVid.

tresir2012 said:
UK is a capitalist country with free healthcare for decades. It is not mutually exclusive and makes healthcare decisions regarding public vaccination schemes much easier. Patients are more willing to have a vaccine if it is free. Up to now the flu vax has only been free to over 65's but I don't know the plan for the Covid vaccine. Both may end up free for over 50's.
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Yep, there are no purely socialist economies (that should be obvious to everyone: China is not purely socialist; Japan probably comes closer; both are capitalist nations). Since the fall of the Iron Curtain, Russia and its satellites are openly capitalist (but with socialist leanings).

The two are clearly not mutually incompatible and to me. EDITED to remove potentially political material - but the point is that healthcare is a cost that many nations regard as a "social responsibility."

I have no idea how the regeneron thing will play out. $1.5M a dose? That's gotta come down in price - but...how can it ever be affordable?

Not great to have a "cure" that's only available to billionaires and millionaires.

Fortunately, there's another company going into the same market (these monoclonal antibody remedies are easy to tweak slightly so that another patent is available) and says it's going to charge less. It costs almost nothing to manufacture and the recipe is...just out there. The recipe was written by CoVid itself...

The research and testing do cost - but surely, something can happen to make it affordable for Americans?
 
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Maine CDC warns hundreds potentially exposed to COVID-19 at area hockey games
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AUGUSTA, Maine —

The Maine Center for Disease Control and Prevention is warning that people who attended several recent hockey games might have been exposed to COVID-19.

Maine CDC Director Dr. Nirav Shah said a hockey referee tested positive for coronavirus refereeing eight games at several locations on Oct. 3 and 4.


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Shah said the referee was at the Biddeford Ice Arena on Oct. 3 for the 8:35 a.m. and 10:05 a.m. games.

The referee was also at the Biddeford Ice Arena on Oct. 4 for the 7:40 a.m., 9:20 a.m., 11 a.m. and 1 p.m. games.

Shah said the referee was also at North Yarmouth Academy on Oct. 4 from 6:30 p.m. until 10:15 p.m.

He said the referee was at the Merrill Fay Arena in Laconia, New Hampshire, on Oct. 3 for the 5:45 p.m. game.

Shah a very preliminary estimate is that 400 people could have been exposed to the virus. Shah said that number could change as the investigation into the exposure continues.

Shah said people who were on the ice at any of those times should consider themselves a close contact of the referee and quarantine for 14 days from exposure.
 
10ofRods said:
Yeah, cuz the doctor knows not to be in a room with him at this point in time - unless both are masked and the doctor is in full PPE.

No matter how much the doctor is getting paid, it isn't enough to risk transmission of CoVid.



Yep, there are no purely socialist economies (that should be obvious to everyone: China is not purely socialist; Japan probably comes closer; both are capitalist nations). Since the fall of the Iron Curtain, Russia and its satellites are openly capitalist (but with socialist leanings).

The two are clearly not mutually incompatible and to me, it appears it's only some US citizens (who are very vocal) who think they are. In reality, many common sensical Americans want what Britain, Canada, Japan, France, Germany, and many other nations have - the best of both systems. Regulated capitalism with broad social initiatives (such as education and healthcare). Of course, some Americans do not want that at all and want to privatize everything - they definitely have their eye on the British healthcare system.

I have no idea how the regeneron thing will play out. $1.5M a dose? That's gotta come down in price - but...how can it ever be affordable? Fortunately, there's another company going into the same market (these monoclonal antibody remedies are easy to tweak slightly so that another patent is available) and says it's going to charge less. They cost almost nothing to manufacture and the recipe is...just out there. The recipe was written by CoVid itself...
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President Trump says the treatment he received will be provided free to everyone. Is he talking about the drugs only, or the entire course of treatment? Hospital stay, labs, imaging, doctor fees, transportation? What's the plan, here? Is it published anywhere yet?
 
10ofRods said:
Yeah, cuz the doctor knows not to be in a room with him at this point in time - unless both are masked and the doctor is in full PPE.

No matter how much the doctor is getting paid, it isn't enough to risk transmission of CoVid..
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RSBM

I have just posted the link to his regular Doctor's report on the WH site. Hopefully this virtual Doctor agrees with the WH one.
 
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