Crystal S., Haleigh's mother #2

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I've pretty much attributed that to a little 4 year old imagination.

I've 2 grandsons, 4 & 5. If either saw the other leave with someone, they'd be on it, and sure would wake up anyone in the house and especially anyone in bed with him.

IMO IF JR is really saying this stuff it could be because he sees the more he talks about it, the more attention he gets from his mother. So he'll keep making things up as he goes to get the attention from her that he couldn't possibly have gotten on every other weekend visitation. Little kids pick up on that kind of stuff pretty quickly.

But IMO, Crystal is the one making it up. I don't think JR has said any of this stuff.
 
Do we have clarity on what the mission is of the fund for Ron set up by Watts Funeral home? If it's the same, why is it ok for Ron but not for Crystal?

Hi Pirate,

Why is what okay for Ron and not for Crystal? I know you are in Florida, but I look at it like this, Ron was displaced from his home. For one reason or another he chose to not take up residence back in the home were Haleigh was abducted. I can't even begin to understand that, but it is what he chose to do. He hasn't been back to work since Haleigh was abducted and it seems like there is no income for him. Someone in the Satsuma community felt the need to set up a fund to help Ronald and in turn another individual chose to set up a fund to help Crystal. I don't see anything wrong with either of those scenario's. If either Ronald or Crystal is using those funds in the manner for which they were NOT intended....well then someone needs to look into that. I don't think we have seen evidence of either yet.

I must be one of the few people that feel neither Ronald or Crystal are responsible for Haleigh's disappearance. Both of the two parents have been somewhat irresponsible....in my opinion...at different stages throughout this whole thing. Both have made not so great choices, such as Ronald's marriage to Misty, which might not have been the BEST choice to make, but he did it anyway and for his own reasons. Such as....Crystals decision to question RJ about the night Haleigh went missing and then broadcast her findings on the Geraldo show. I mean, we as a public seem to know it is not a good idea to question a child about a tragic event like this without the help of a professional, that is what they have professionals for. My point is....Haleigh is missing....taken from a mom and dad that love her dearly. As an independent person I find no fault with Ronald or with Crystal and sincerely hope the public can get past the blame game long enough to get the focus back on Haleigh and bring her home. Notice I did not mention Misty, I have not as an independent person been able to fully dismiss a few of her statements and I reserve the right to pass judgement on her at a later date. :silenced:
 
JVM's transcript is up. It appears the couch reference, and Crystal's allegation re Misty being seen with drug dealers has been omitted from the transcript. Did Jane's legal advisors censure her remarks as a precautionary measure?
 
From the Haleigh bug web site
Content copyright Jeff Picazio All rights reserved

From who is:
Jeremiah Regan set up the domain and has about 6 other websites
http://whois.domaintools.com/haleighbug.com

Regan's myspace before it went private
http://74.125.47.132/search?q=cache...and&cd=2&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us&client=firefox-a

From this article:
http://www.firstcoastnews.com/news/amberalerts/news-article.aspx?storyid=134030&catid=295
It states he has been painting and renovating the Haleigh Bug sight, and he is the one that recognized the SO D. Snodgrass when he tried to donate things to the sight. It also states, "Regan said he waited for a colleague, Art Harris, to arrive at the headquarters before traveling to Snodgrass' home just a couple miles away. Harris is an independent journalist, most known for his program called The Bald Truth. He said he saw desks and chairs at Snodgrass' home."
*snipped*

So, I guess is is affiliated with Art Harris (artharris.com). ???
 
There is this reference to drug dealers in the transcript:

VELEZ-MITCHELL: All right. Quick question, Crystal. What about this potential custody battle between you and Ron over your little boy, Ronald Jr.?

SHEFFIELD: I -- I don`t feel safe with him. I mean, my daughter is missing. He has a 17-year-old that he is married to now. She`s a child. Obviously, she`s -- I mean, she`s been out doing drugs. He`s caught her with drug dealers, and I don`t feel safe with him there.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: I want to say, first of all, that I have no independent confirmation of that, and we don`t have any information or confirmation of that at all. A lot of stories circulating. A lot of point, counterpoint, charge, countercharge.

But one thing I know for sure is that Crystal Sheffield is suffering tonight.​


Was there something else in the show?
 
From this article:
http://www.firstcoastnews.com/news/amberalerts/news-article.aspx?storyid=134030&catid=295
It states he has been painting and renovating the Haleigh Bug sight, and he is the one that recognized the SO D. Snodgrass when he tried to donate things to the sight. It also states, "Regan said he waited for a colleague, Art Harris, to arrive at the headquarters before traveling to Snodgrass' home just a couple miles away. Harris is an independent journalist, most known for his program called The Bald Truth. He said he saw desks and chairs at Snodgrass' home."
*snipped*

So, I guess is is affiliated with Art Harris (artharris.com). ???

Right it does seem he is affiliated with Art Harris.

It also seems the person that holds the copyright to the content of the website has the same name as Crystals lawyer. That really got me thinking.
 
I agree with you 110%. There are very few Foster Homes that are suitable and supervised the way they are supposed to be. Most are in it for the money. Granted there are the "Very Few" that do provide TLC...very few.

Having been a fosterparent for several years, I can tell you there is no money to be made in fostering. I fostered newborn to 5 and with clothing, diapers, educational tools needed, the many, many doctors visits etc. (most children come with just the clothes on their back if they are lucky enough to have those) it cost money to be a fosterparent. You HAVE to do it for the "love of the children" or it will not work. Just sayin'
 
Because Ron actually worked and bought his kids food, shelter and clothing. That's something that Crystal can't say she did.

IMO it's unbelievable that she would ask for money from the public to raise her children when she couldn't be bothered with working and paying child support. So we are suppose to give her money to do something she never did before and that's support her children.

It is just this type of uncharitable attitude that has kept Crystal down all her life. She is trying to make life better for her children. Is she "using this opportunity now that Haleigh is gone" (TN quote) to do so? I don't see it like that. The notoriety of Haleigh's disappearance has brought people into Crystal's life who can help her find her feet, gain some strength to be the parent she's always wanted to be, and to make certain that she's the best she can be.

I can't fault her for that. I can feel sympathy for her feeling like she's never been given a chance before. But then, I'm a firm believer in giving a person a hand up, not a hand out. I see Crystal as asking for the former, not the latter.
 
wonder what this means with regards to the child support and custody?

2008-06-16 054.DOR INTERCEPT IN THE AMOUNT OF $48.00 ON 06/16/08
2009-02-10 055.MOTION FOR CONTEMPT 03-27-09 AT 08:30
2009-02-20 056.NOTICE OF DISMISSAL
2009-03-17 057.NOTICE OF APPEARANCE - KIM PICAZIO FOR CRYSTAL SHEFFIELD

https://www.putnam-fl.com/secure/public_menu.php
click civil dockets type in %cummings% to locate
 
It is just this type of uncharitable attitude that has kept Crystal down all her life. She is trying to make life better for her children. Is she "using this opportunity now that Haleigh is gone" (TN quote) to do so? I don't see it like that. The notoriety of Haleigh's disappearance has brought people into Crystal's life who can help her find her feet, gain some strength to be the parent she's always wanted to be, and to make certain that she's the best she can be.

I can't fault her for that. I can feel sympathy for her feeling like she's never been given a chance before. But then, I'm a firm believer in giving a person a hand up, not a hand out. I see Crystal as asking for the former, not the latter.

So true Debs. So very true. Crystal has a lot of missed territory to cover. I hope she can. Ron too. They both deserve a chance.

I suspect based on what I have been able find and read that TN supported, was caregiver.. her and her mother... many kinds of charity floating about here. Ron had his Ronettes going and c'mon ... someone had to support those children and care for them. thankfully someone did!

People still rage that Mark L. was given a new motorcycle - or something like that.
 
The problem I have is that she is asking for donations to help take care of Chloe as well. The page comes across as Crystal was raising Haleigh and RJ and needs money to continuing doing so as well as take care of Chloe. Crystal was not working, she was not supporting Haleigh and Jr. Ask for monies to print fliers, rent the space etc but not for monies that she never provided in the first place. There is very little mention of Haleigh in the entire page, it should be about Haleigh.

It is just this type of uncharitable attitude that has kept Crystal down all her life. She is trying to make life better for her children. Is she "using this opportunity now that Haleigh is gone" (TN quote) to do so? I don't see it like that. The notoriety of Haleigh's disappearance has brought people into Crystal's life who can help her find her feet, gain some strength to be the parent she's always wanted to be, and to make certain that she's the best she can be.

I can't fault her for that. I can feel sympathy for her feeling like she's never been given a chance before. But then, I'm a firm believer in giving a person a hand up, not a hand out. I see Crystal as asking for the former, not the latter.
 
The problem I have is that she is asking for donations to help take care of Chloe as well. The page comes across as Crystal was raising Haleigh and RJ and needs money to continuing doing so as well as take care of Chloe. Crystal was not working, she was not supporting Haleigh and Jr. Ask for monies to print fliers, rent the space etc but not for monies that she never provided in the first place. There is very little mention of Haleigh in the entire page, it should be about Haleigh.

You're right. She should simply let Chloe suffer because her mother is once again thrown into turmoil and struggling to figure out how to just keep her head above water while the tide keeps rising.

She needs help and she's admitting that. That's a huge thing for people like Crystal. Seems to me she's always assumed that if she were to ask for help from people, she'd get slapped down. I can see why she'd think that.
 
I do not have an uncharitable attitude. I don't get why you would even say that. I just find it disgusting that she is asking for help to raise her children when she wasn't even willing to pay for them herself for a whole year. If it was a man who was the deadbeat, everyone would be all over him.

Are my posts so disturbing that everyone keeps putting them down? If it would make everyone happy I could be a stepford poster and just agree with everyone. But what's the point in that?
 
Why would Chloe suffer without donations? Crystal had no income before so the home has not lost revenue to take care of Chloe. I guess I just have a problem with people making a profit off a missing child.

You're right. She should simply let Chloe suffer because her mother is once again thrown into turmoil and struggling to figure out how to just keep her head above water while the tide keeps rising.

She needs help and she's admitting that. That's a huge thing for people like Crystal. Seems to me she's always assumed that if she were to ask for help from people, she'd get slapped down. I can see why she'd think that.
 
Hi Pirate,

Why is what okay for Ron and not for Crystal? I know you are in Florida, but I look at it like this, Ron was displaced from his home. For one reason or another he chose to not take up residence back in the home were Haleigh was abducted. I can't even begin to understand that, but it is what he chose to do. He hasn't been back to work since Haleigh was abducted and it seems like there is no income for him. Someone in the Satsuma community felt the need to set up a fund to help Ronald and in turn another individual chose to set up a fund to help Crystal. I don't see anything wrong with either of those scenario's. If either Ronald or Crystal is using those funds in the manner for which they were NOT intended....well then someone needs to look into that. I don't think we have seen evidence of either yet.

I must be one of the few people that feel neither Ronald or Crystal are responsible for Haleigh's disappearance. Both of the two parents have been somewhat irresponsible....in my opinion...at different stages throughout this whole thing. Both have made not so great choices, such as Ronald's marriage to Misty, which might not have been the BEST choice to make, but he did it anyway and for his own reasons. Such as....Crystals decision to question RJ about the night Haleigh went missing and then broadcast her findings on the Geraldo show. I mean, we as a public seem to know it is not a good idea to question a child about a tragic event like this without the help of a professional, that is what they have professionals for. My point is....Haleigh is missing....taken from a mom and dad that love her dearly. As an independent person I find no fault with Ronald or with Crystal and sincerely hope the public can get past the blame game long enough to get the focus back on Haleigh and bring her home. Notice I did not mention Misty, I have not as an independent person been able to fully dismiss a few of her statements and I reserve the right to pass judgement on her at a later date. :silenced:


That is a wonderful post- and I agree 100%. I have never criticized the account that Watts set up on Ron's behalf- however, I have questioned how the money might be being used given we've heard about a new truck, a diamond ring and a wedding, as well a purchasing a new home while he's not working. And that does concern me.

Just as Ron was displaced by this horrible event, Crystal was too. She has a home 100 miles away and it would hardly make sense for her to commute to the center of the search area every day.

I just find it very hypocritical when people support Ron needing help but criticize Hayleigh's other parent, her mother needing help as well.

FWIW I don't plan to donate to either- my money is going to TES.
 
I do not have an uncharitable attitude. I don't get why you would even say that. I just find it disgusting that she is asking for help to raise her children when she wasn't even willing to pay for them herself for a whole year. If it was a man who was the deadbeat, everyone would be all over him.

Are my posts so disturbing that everyone keeps putting them down? If it would make everyone happy I could be a stepford poster and just agree with everyone. But what's the point in that?

I see where helping someone out is a far far better thing than to keep them down because they struggled before. Crystal is saying she needs help. She is saying she wants to do better. She is trying to step up where she feels she failed before. She is making an attempt to protect her children and I for one believe that is something one should be supported in, and not have her nose rubbed in her failures. I can only imagine that she has had plenty of people keeping her down most of her life (including her own family) and if by giving her a hand in making life changes is what a person can do, then I am all for lending that hand.
 
wonder what this means with regards to the child support and custody?

2008-06-16 054.DOR INTERCEPT IN THE AMOUNT OF $48.00 ON 06/16/08
2009-02-10 055.MOTION FOR CONTEMPT 03-27-09 AT 08:30
2009-02-20 056.NOTICE OF DISMISSAL
2009-03-17 057.NOTICE OF APPEARANCE - KIM PICAZIO FOR CRYSTAL SHEFFIELD

https://www.putnam-fl.com/secure/public_menu.php
click civil dockets type in %cummings% to locate

NOTICE OF APPEARANCE for what hmmm
MOTION FOR CONTEMPT 03-27-09 AT 08:30 hmmm thnks busy
 
I do not have an uncharitable attitude. I don't get why you would even say that. I just find it disgusting that she is asking for help to raise her children when she wasn't even willing to pay for them herself for a whole year. If it was a man who was the deadbeat, everyone would be all over him.
Are my posts so disturbing that everyone keeps putting them down? If it would make everyone happy I could be a stepford poster and just agree with everyone. But what's the point in that?

I agree 100%. I also agree that she shouldn't need donations for Chloe, that child has a father that is fully capable of supporting her.

I also want to add, I am new here, but I am just absorbed by this case. I guess maybe it is because my daughter and Haleigh are only 8 days apart in age. I find myself unable to sleep at night thinking about this poor child.
 
Well, one can always *ask* for donations but there's no guarantee of getting them. Thankfully people can decide for themselves if the cause is worthy enough. I've no problem with either Ronald or Crystal asking or taking donations as long as they are being honest about what the money is being used for, if it's going towards fliers and Haleigh t-shirts or the headquarters or new shoes for JR or Chloe. If either of them says it's to search for Haleigh and are instead using it as child support, it counts as dishonest in my book. I don't think that people should be using a child's disappearance as a money making device but if someone wants to donate their hard-earned money to their daily upkeep, let them. It's taken a toll on all of them and I'm sure their ability to work might be diminished because of the grief, stress and the sleepless nights.
 
NOTICE OF APPEARANCE for what hmmm
MOTION FOR CONTEMPT 03-27-09 AT 08:30 hmmm thnks busy

Could this be paperwork to register in the courts that she is now the attorney of record for CS?
 
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