Crystal S., Haleigh's mother #2

[Indiana at Heart]

Could this be paperwork to register in the courts that she is now the attorney of record for CS?

:doh: me yes thats it 2# part, but the other I don't know thats strange cause I though that was postponed maybe I'm wrong

 

[Tichad3]

I found this also:

UNICEF - Crystal Sheffield's Fundraising Page
Page Creator: Crystal Sheffield. Page Closes: Jun 2nd 2009 ... There are no
donations to this page to date. To be the first, simply click below ...
http://www.firstgiving.com/crystalsheffield

 

[elle1919]

I do not have an uncharitable attitude. I don't get why you would even say that. I just find it disgusting that she is asking for help to raise her children when she wasn't even willing to pay for them herself for a whole year. If it was a man who was the deadbeat, everyone would be all over him.

Are my posts so disturbing that everyone keeps putting them down? If it would make everyone happy I could be a stepford poster and just agree with everyone. But what's the point in that?

lol....no point in that whatsoever! Again I will state what I think is the obvious here or there in Satsuma. Both Ronald and Crystal have a missing daughter that they want brought home. I have listened to both these parents very closely and I think that in THIS situation thay are both being preyed upon by people who have dollar signs in there eyes instead of Haleigh. Crystal and Ronald are both in need of guidance and a loving hand up. If my child were missing and someone came to me with designs on helping and getting her home I don't think I would be in any sort of mind to know whether or not I could trust that person or people. Sadly the only people these two can probably trust is EACH OTHER because they share a very common denominator.....Haleigh......everyone else is suspect in my opinion and they should be on the defensive with everyone.

 

[radio]

I do not have an uncharitable attitude. I don't get why you would even say that. I just find it disgusting that she is asking for help to raise her children when she wasn't even willing to pay for them herself for a whole year. If it was a man who was the deadbeat, everyone would be all over him.

Are my posts so disturbing that everyone keeps putting them down? If it would make everyone happy I could be a stepford poster and just agree with everyone. But what's the point in that?

Nah - don't go the stepford route.

I have harsh opinions of both clans.

Right now more so for RC ... he has been making the negative news... now maybe Crystal is going to get into the act - time will tell.

Also - my likeability factor (?) is not with RC. Not at all.

 

[Law_girl41]

Could this be paperwork to register in the courts that she is now the attorney of record for CS?

there was a report the day before yesterday, that she said she is asking for all the past records of the custody......in which btw, you & I know that they were not available to the public, so Kim is asking for all of it. :clap::clap::clap:

ETA: in other words, if Kim gets these documents released......then we'll more than likely get to see them!! Yey!!

 

[debs]

Radio, you ever get the feeling that it's more between TN and Crystal's mom than it ever was between Ron and Crystal?

 

[radio]

Radio, you ever get the feeling that it's more between TN and Crystal's mom than it ever was between Ron and Crystal?

Oh yes!! You've got two lawnmower mothers!! I'm sure neither liked the influence of the other ...

 

[kiki the parrot]

Because Ron actually worked and bought his kids food, shelter and clothing. That's something that Crystal can't say she did.

IMO it's unbelievable that she would ask for money from the public to raise her children when she couldn't be bothered with working and paying child support. So we are suppose to give her money to do something she never did before and that's support her children.

Pretty harsh indictment of a mother who did support her children while she was able. I know there have been periods in my ex's life during which he was either unemployed or underemployed that he got in arrears (to the tune of $22k at one point) and he didn't even have pregnancy or an injury to factor in but it wasn't because he didn't "bother." He was just an older, displaced worker trying to get back on his feet--while I was employed at the time, and at least managing--and he eventually became gainfully employed and has been not only making timely payments but slowly paying off all that back support. I avoid making perjorative comments and try not to judge people when I don't know all their circumstances. I am a fierce advocate for children, and did what was legally necessary to protect my children's interests when needed--but I am also a human being. And mom strikes me as someone who's been very forthcoming not only about past failures--but about her past errors in judgment, and misgivings about the court's decision, thus making every effort now to both consider her other children while understandably consumed every waking moment w finding her missing daughter. H#[[ I'm consumed w this case every am I awaken and I've never met Haleigh much less am I her parent. God bless you Haleigh, and keep Jr in the safest home possible--w whomever that is. JMO

arrot:

 

[Tiki]

Picazio said she does not intend to help Haleigh's mother, Crystal Sheffield, file for custody of the children at this time.

Picazio said she will wait for DCF to finish an investigation before filing any legal action for custody.

Picazio said she has faith DCF will swiftly investigate the information she has brought to their attention.

Picazio first came to Putnam County last week at the request of individuals helping Sheffield's family.

Picazio said she first took on the case to help Sheffield deal with the media. She said she then learned about some allegations about the stability and safety of Haleigh and her brother's home.

http://www.firstcoastnews.com/news/local/news-article.aspx?storyid=134032&catid=3

I wonder why she went to the court as Crystal's rep if she "does not intend to help Haleigh's mother, Crystal Sheffield, file for custody of the children at this time."

Re the "couch bouncing" - isn't the trailer near a RR track? I lived a half mile away from a track once and the entire house (2 story - solid foundation) shook when the trains went by. If trains still run there, I imagine it might make everything in the trailer bounce.

I just can't feature her bouncing the couch with some other guy with the kids right there. It's obvious she is dependent on Ron.

 

[sega-sleuth]

I see where helping someone out is a far far better thing than to keep them down because they struggled before. Crystal is saying she needs help. She is saying she wants to do better. She is trying to step up where she feels she failed before. She is making an attempt to protect her children and I for one believe that is something one should be supported in, and not have her nose rubbed in her failures. I can only imagine that she has had plenty of people keeping her down most of her life (including her own family) and if by giving her a hand in making life changes is what a person can do, then I am all for lending that hand.

Debs, this in no way is intended for you, ok.

I am all for helping someone when they are down and trying to turn themselves around. To *me* the first step would be helping them selves then others will be glad to help them. RC & CS are in horrible situations period. Their daughter is missing and I can not imagine how that effects people. BUT, they need to stop the mud slinging and come together for Haleigh. Not because they like one another, but because they are Haleigh's parents and SHE needs this NOW. Pull their grown up, parent britches up and do whatever it takes to help find Haleigh. Put all BS aside, there will be a time when Haleigh is home to worry about custody or getting on the media and airing their dirty laundry. #1 should be Haleigh and they are not making her a priority right now with the mud slinging. JMHO

"Actions speak louder than words" We need Haleigh to be found safe, she has been gone TOO long!!

 

[MADJGNLAW]

I found this also:

UNICEF - Crystal Sheffield's Fundraising Page
Page Creator: Crystal Sheffield. Page Closes: Jun 2nd 2009 ... There are no
donations to this page to date. To be the first, simply click below ...
http://www.firstgiving.com/crystalsheffield

Thank you for sharing, I just checked and nothing yet either.
I hope the fear of misuse of funds will not keep people from donating.

As adults, people can decide for themselves if they want to donate. I have no problem donating to anyone that is in need. If I am lied to and they chose to use the money elsewhere there is nothing I can do about it. I just know that what was given, was given from my heart and given for a cause I believe in. If we always doubt people about what they are doing with the donations we have lost trust for everyone, due to the small amount of ungrateful dishonest people in this world. I will donate once to, Ronald, Crystal, or Anyone asking or taking donations for a good cause as I see fit in my budget. If they need a little extra help with the the other children, I would have no problem with that either. Some people may not have an extra dollar to spare, but may have some other items, food for the other children, a warm blanket or other that could help out the same.

I just pray they are being honest about what the money is being used for so that in the future if another family is in need people won't be afraid to make a donation. .

This tragedy has taken a toll on all of them and I'm sure their ability to work temporarily may be diminished because of the grief, stress and the sleepless nights. However, the time to go back to work needs to come sooner than later because they need to support the other children.

We have to remember, God wants us to help thy neighbor and as long as we do what ever we can from the heart it should not be questioned. There is a 5 yr old child-Haleigh that is still missing and we all need to stand by that child and try and help bring her home one way or another.

 

[elle1919]

Thank you for sharing, I just checked and nothing yet either.
I hope the fear of misuse of funds will not keep people from donating.

As adults, people can decide for themselves if they want to donate. I have no problem donating to anyone that is in need. If I am lied to and they chose to use the money elsewhere there is nothing I can do about it. I just know that what was given, was given from my heart and given for a cause I believe in. If we always doubt people about what they are doing with the donations we have lost trust for everyone, due to the small amount of ungrateful dishonest people in this world. I will donate once to, Ronald, Crystal, or Anyone asking or taking donations for a good cause as I see fit in my budget. If they need a little extra help with the the other children, I would have no problem with that either. Some people may not have an extra dollar to spare, but may have some other items, food for the other children, a warm blanket or other that could help out the same.

I just pray they are being honest about what the money is being used for so that in the future if another family is in need people won't be afraid to make a donation. .

This tragedy has taken a toll on all of them and I'm sure their ability to work temporarily may be diminished because of the grief, stress and the sleepless nights. However, the time to go back to work needs to come sooner than later because they need to support the other children.

We have to remember, God wants us to help thy neighbor and as long as we do what ever we can from the heart it should not be questioned. There is a 5 yr old child-Haleigh that is still missing and we all need to stand by that child and try and help bring her home one way or another.

I thanked you for your post but also wanted to take a second to say I agree with you whole heartedly.

 

[raeann]

I found this also:

UNICEF - Crystal Sheffield's Fundraising Page
Page Creator: Crystal Sheffield. Page Closes: Jun 2nd 2009 ... There are no
donations to this page to date. To be the first, simply click below ...
http://www.firstgiving.com/crystalsheffield

Actually I think this is a page set up for when someone is raising funds for an organization...in this case UNICEF...my daughter's sorority did a fundraising walk for the Alzheimer's association and they each had to set up a page such as this with their goal amount so that friends and family could donate online to reach that goal. This money goes to the charitable association and NOT to the person raising the funds!

If this is the same Crystal Sheffield then I am so very impressed that she has chosen to raise funds for UNICEF....it is a very respected organization and has done many good things for children around the world. If it is a different Crystal Sheffield then bless whoever that one is also!

 

[curvecuti]

I thanked you for your post but also wanted to take a second to say I agree with you whole heartedly.

I agree w/ the post also. It makes me think about 2 months ago I was in Greensboro NC with my BFF and my nephew, we stopped at a stoplight and there was an older man there with a sign asking for money. I rolled down my window and gave him $5. Both of them said, why are you doing that, I never give to those people, they showed on the news where most of them are scam artists. And I replied, I am giving because I want to help him, if he mis-uses the funds it has no impact on the reason I gave them.


That being said, I still think it looks bad for the website to make the statement that Crystal needs money for Chloe. And I know I sound hypocritical.

 

[fortytwo]

It is just this type of uncharitable attitude that has kept Crystal down all her life. She is trying to make life better for her children. Is she "using this opportunity now that Haleigh is gone" (TN quote) to do so? I don't see it like that. The notoriety of Haleigh's disappearance has brought people into Crystal's life who can help her find her feet, gain some strength to be the parent she's always wanted to be, and to make certain that she's the best she can be.

I can't fault her for that. I can feel sympathy for her feeling like she's never been given a chance before. But then, I'm a firm believer in giving a person a hand up, not a hand out. I see Crystal as asking for the former, not the latter.

(bold above by me)

I'm going to begin by saying that so far I have not chosen a side in the Crystal/Ron feud, and quite frankly it is my fervent hope that I do not become inclined to.

Having said that I want it to be clear that I shall cheerfully disregard any responses to this post which assume or infer that I have made such a choice.

The section I have bolded above could just as easily read "..she has found an opportunity to take advantage of the situation to her own profit." Semantically there is no difference, only in implication and innuendo.

As I recall, Crystal's initial public appearances were remarkable largely for her Ron bashing, followed by a regrettably brief period of truce, and then more and escalating Ron bashing. I find this disturbing. I truly hope that one of the opportunities she has found is not to pursue a vendetta through the auspices of this tragedy.

The appearance of this new lawyer has not impressed me. After stating that she is not there for custody disputes, etc. it seems that the first major activities on her part are to provide DFS with derogatory third party statements about Ron, negotiate national appearances for Crystal to speak negatively about Ron, and set up a funding operation which gives money to Crystal to help support a child that is not Ron's. I find this disturbing as well.

Much of the negative perception by others of the people in both 'camps' (if you'll forgive the expression) I believe is colored by a lack of familiarity with the culture surrounding them. I am making no apologies or criticisms about their lifestyles or behaviors. However I will say that having grown up in the coalfields of West Virginia I do not find the actions or reactions of these people (on either side) to be particularly unusual or repugnant. I think that to a disappointingly large degree there is much willful misunderstanding of this on the part of those observers who have chosen to become partisans for either side.

Although I realize that the appeal is rather futile, I would like to ask that those people on both sides of this unfortunate divide please step back and ask themselves if they might not have drawn a conclusion first and then proceeded to fit the data to their preconceptions.

I think that we can be much more helpful if we can separate ourselves from partisan convictions and inflammatory speculation intended only to cast the other side in an unfavorable light.

Keep yourselves focused and don't forget that all of our neighborhoods are filled with glass houses.

 

[debs]

Odd. The first thing I heard Crystal say was "I'm being told a lot of things and I don't know what to think of any of them. The story keeps changing."

I don't see that as bashing. I see that as a woman expressing how she's being confused by what's being told to her.

 

[pirate]

Odd. The first thing I heard Crystal say was "I'm being told a lot of things and I don't know what to think of any of them. The story keeps changing."

I don't see that as bashing. I see that as a woman expressing how she's being confused by what's being told to her.

I'll add to that debs and say that often if confusion is not alleviated, it escalates to anger. And anger is VERY understandable in this situation that involves a lost little girl and the person who was to be supervising her not being honest with the authorities.

 

[Boytwnmom]

I'll add to that debs and say that often if confusion is not alleviated, it escalates to anger. And anger is VERY understandable in this situation that involves a lost little girl and the person who was to be supervising her not being honest with the authorities.

I have to say that Crystals actions and reactions make more sense to me than those of RC & MC because I look at them in the context of the background here. Crystal was, in my opinion, beaten down by Ron as, for example, in the custody hearing. She was basically accused of being an unfit mother with RC insisting how he's the "better parent" whose mother would care for the children. Now her daughter disappears while his teen girlfriend who is claiming the mantle of "mother" is supposedly watching the children.

Misty "mother" can't keep her story straight about the time frame in which this little girl, her "daughter" disappeared. I also have no doubt Crystal was verbally and physically abused by RC.

While I don't understand or relate to her life I do understand her actions and reactions in this situation better than those of RC who marries the teen "mother" who doesn't know why she can't tell the same story twice, who runs around getting tatoos and flying to NY while complaining that people aren't focused enough on Haleigh. At least I see Crystal expending some energy in a positive way with this Haleighbug idea. I just think her actions make more "sense" than RC & MC's. Just my honest opinion by looking at the story logically.

 

[Jholi]

My :twocents: - all JMO:

The website is folly. Period. I was looking forward to it, but the people who did it made a complete mess of things.

I don't blame Crystal for that, as I see her head spinning from all the advice she is getting. But it has reduced my trust in her attorney, who should have more sense about what that site, as it is, does to public perception.

Crystal needs a psychologist, or a few good friends, who will guide and support her with wisdom, more than anything. She needs to be lead out of the belief system and habits that have her engaged to Chad.

I believe she wants better life for herself and her children, and I think she has a good heart. But my reading of Chad makes that relationship a red flag to me* that says: at the deepest level, she's still stuck in a rut about her own value, potential, and how she sees herself in relation to others. My fear is that she needs him as a financial support and that will cause her to stay with him even if she otherwise would not. (And alas, there is also little Cloe to consider.)

I wish the custody matter and "mud-slinging" could disappear or at least be back-burnered. On the other hand, if she and her attorney sincerely believe Jr is at risk, then they would be remiss to not speak up.

Several here have said that "If she believed x, why didn't she do anything?" I don't think she was told the things she has been told until lately, and now that she has, she is just making sure she won't have to hear "If she believed x, why didn't she do anything?" again.

I also think the mothers and other meddling relatives are a huge problem.

*ETA: I feel the same way about Ron's choice of Misty. These choices say so much about who we are, our motivations, and how we see ourselves in relationship to others. But this is the Crystal thread, so I'll leave it at that.

/:twocents:

 

[winterrose]

I'm not understanding most of both of these family's actions.If you're child is missing,everything should be on hold in your life.No weddings,lawyers,foundations,trips,buying anything new and especially every interview you have should be solely on your missing child.I know there can never be a rulebook on being a parent of a missing child,but maybe some common sense as Mark Lunsford and the Smarts behaved.If the family wants to have tshirts and bracelets,fine,to me it's just become a fad.I think the best thing you can do is keep yourself in the media in interviews.IMO