Crystal S., Haleigh's mother #8

[leslie1960]

Exactly. Presenting that note to a judge would be a colossal waste of time and resources as it is not in any way legible. It would not have even been able to be considered because there is NO WAY to read it.

I read, "Medical DX (medical code for diagnosis) pending ---- results." Can't really tell what the missing word is; could be the initials for a specific type of test.

 

[newstome]

Exactly. Presenting that note to a judge would be a colossal waste of time and resources as it is not in any way legible. It would not have even been able to be considered because there is NO WAY to read it.

IT says medical tx (treatment) pending lab results. Looks to me like she was supposed to go to rehab for drugs. Question is: Why didn't she?????
Actually, the doctors writing is a lot better than most I read.

 

[debs]

IT says medical tx (treatment) pending lab results. Looks to me like she was supposed to go to rehab for drugs. Question is: Why didn't she?????
Actually, the doctors writing is a lot better than most I read.

You're right.......that's what it clearly states....."Medical TX pending lab results." Very legible. However, I don't understand your next conclusion that it means she was supposed to attend drug rehab. She was being tested for her seizures, as I recall.

 

[curvecuti]

I can read Medical, the rest, well that doesn't look like a DX or a TX to me at all maybe a 1p., the rest I can not read at all and apparently neither could Kim P. It is in no way clear. I can just see a judge taking the time to decipher it, heck we have 3 different interpretations of it here. ETA: If it says any of those tings y'all see in it, it still doesn't say she can not drive or work. I guess Kim P. needed it to say She can not work or drive instead of some meaningless scribble scrabble, imo. Or maybe it was the "lab results" that were the problem. Maybe that's why Kim wrote seizures/drug abuse. Hmmmm, maybe it wasn't the illegible part that was the reason she couldn't give it to the judge, it was the results of the "labs". all moo. Glad I posted that, thanks yall!

 

[Nana46]

I read, "Medical DX (medical code for diagnosis) pending ---- results." Can't really tell what the missing word is; could be the initials for a specific type of test.

Agree with you...worked for a surgeon for 21 years....it looks like that to me also.

ETA: could aso be "pending" lab results

 

[Helplessly Hoping]

IT says medical tx (treatment) pending lab results. Looks to me like she was supposed to go to rehab for drugs. Question is: Why didn't she?????
Actually, the doctors writing is a lot better than most I read.

CS may or not need treatment for an addiction problem--but there is NOTHING in this note to suggest the same and frankly, I'm very curious as to how or WHY you would jump to such an inflammatory conclusion...IMO

 

[newstome]

This is IMO, as someone with some knowledge of persons who abuse drugs. The seizures can be caused by the drugs. I read all though these threads about poor Crystal, she's under so much stress,that it made her start to have seizures months ago. Stress does not cause a seizure in someone who has no history of seizures. If the medication leval of the meds for seizures is too low in the blood, that can cause them. But, I recall CS and her Mother stating she had never had them before, and it was the stress of Haleigh being missing that caused them. That made me think she was still on illegal drugs. IMO, the doctor ordered the labs to see what all she had been taking and how much, a blood draw on that is very accurate, and cannot be tampered with like a urine test. Drug abusers always lie. A blood draw won't. They needed to know what she needed to detoxed from. When asked by reporters if she had been to the doctor to see why she started having seizures, CS stated she was "too busy" with all the work at the Haleighbug center. It is however possible to start to have seizures in someone who has never had them at any age.

 

[Whisperer]

"Medical treatment pending lab's results" is the script.

Many seizure meds are lab controlled. If she was getting to little or too much of the med, it may show up in the blood. What exactly is the problem here?

Is someone jumping to conclusions that the Dr. was sending her to rehab pending the results of a lab test? Doesn't happen that way, if that is what some is thinking.

 

[Whisperer]

Crystal nor Marie have to worry about hiring a Criminal Defense Attorney, Chesterp. As you can see they have not one nor need one.

Bar complaints happen frequently, a99% of the time they rule in favor of the respondent (the attorney). Heck, even Strickland's filing against Baez didn't work.

As lawyers file against each other more so than they file for clients, I wouldn't worry about CS not being able to employ an attorney if needed. The concern should be that rc has retained a Criminal Defense Attorney. How many innocent grieving fathers do that?

 

[elle1919]

This is IMO, as someone with some knowledge of persons who abuse drugs. The seizures can be caused by the drugs. I read all though these threads about poor Crystal, she's under so much stress,that it made her start to have seizures months ago. Stress does not cause a seizure in someone who has no history of seizures. If the medication leval of the meds for seizures is too low in the blood, that can cause them. But, I recall CS and her Mother stating she had never had them before, and it was the stress of Haleigh being missing that caused them. That made me think she was still on illegal drugs. IMO, the doctor ordered the labs to see what all she had been taking and how much, a blood draw on that is very accurate, and cannot be tampered with like a urine test. Drug abusers always lie. A blood draw won't. They needed to know what she needed to detoxed from. When asked by reporters if she had been to the doctor to see why she started having seizures, CS stated she was "too busy" with all the work at the Haleighbug center. It is however possible to start to have seizures in someone who has never had them at any age.

Hi there newstome!!

Thank you for your post, I can agree with many of your points. I find the Crystal's seizures compelling and a little confusing. I read that Crystal had her first seizure two days before Haleigh went missing, so I have to wonder what her stress level was in the weeks leading up to Haleigh's disappearance. There was actually a court hearing scheduled to hear a motion filed the State Department of Revenue regarding Crystal's nonpayment of support. I have been trying to find out what day the subpoena's were served to Crystal ,and Ronald as well, for that hearing.

I also agree with your opinions about Crystal's drug use. If the script from the doctor says what you think it says, perhaps it means that treatment for Crystal is going to depend on the results of her lab work. Either way, this was back in July and I sincerely hope that Crystal is feeling better and getting herself stable. My only question is why the question mark under where it asks when the patient can return to work? Isn't there usually dates there?

 

[newstome]

CS may or not need treatment for an addiction problem--but there is NOTHING in this note to suggest the same and frankly, I'm very curious as to how or WHY you would jump to such an inflammatory conclusion...IMO

I just read what the doctor wrote. This is not a lab order that is shown. I am just saying that if the labdraw or blood test was for a Dilantin leval, and it came back as too high or too low, the doctor just adjusts the medication. He is informed of that when the labreport comes back to him or whoever the doctor was that wrote the order for it. The slip I read would be taken back to the receptionist by the patient at the clinic she was at, and when the labs came back, that office would set it up. The doctor would not write: medical treatment pending labs. All IMO from the knowledge I am aware of.

 

[Whisperer]

It appears the note was for her ability to drive or work. The screenshot taken of this note has a box at the top blocking out the reason for the script. I assume this was about Crystal being able to drive at the time. He/she was going to assess her medical treatment (medications) and then make a decsion

 

[newstome]

Actually, I believe CS went to the clinic to get help to get off drugs, which would have been a wonderful thing to do for herself and her children. My posts were not meant to be inflammatory twards CS. That would have helped her pursue her case for custody. I am not pro or con either RC or CS, it varies from day to day.

I see the box at the top of the page with drive/work. I wonder guess with all the exposure this case recieved, it caused many who drove without a license before to finally go out and get one. I don't remember if this doctors note was needed before or after the Haleighbug building closed and CS went back home.

I may be incorrest, and I post IMO and what I can recall of information already documented.

 

[debs]

Actually, I believe CS went to the clinic to get help to get off drugs, which would have been a wonderful thing to do for herself and her children. My posts were not meant to be inflammatory twards CS. That would have helped her pursue her case for custody. I am not pro or con either RC or CS, it varies from day to day.

She suffered unexpected seizures in the middle of a very stressful time. It is only reasonable to speculate that she was going to a doctor to find out why.

 

[Baxter]

I read, "Medical DX (medical code for diagnosis) pending ---- results." Can't really tell what the missing word is; could be the initials for a specific type of test.

Ok. Using my RN skills of taking and reading DR. orders over the years, this is an easy one. Medical TX , (treatment), pending lab results. You have to realize this is a return to work form. They are not asking for a diagnosis.

The pending lab results IMO, would probably be for blood levels of Dilantin or a seizure type med. You need to have a therapeutic level in order to keep seizures under control.

 

[leslie1960]

Ok. Using my RN skills of taking and reading DR. orders over the years, this is an easy one. Medical TX , (treatment), pending lab results. You have to realize this is a return to work form. They are not asking for a diagnosis.

The pending lab results IMO, would probably be for blood levels of Dilantin or a seizure type med. You need to have a therapeutic level in order to keep seizures under control.

Thanks for the clarification, Baxter. I really didn't know until I read a little further why this documentation was even needed; I got so fixated on deciphering the message (which I didn't do too great a job with) to pay attention to the "return to work" aspect.:doh:

It makes a lot more sense to me now!

 

[Gotarugrat]

Causes of seizures.

http://neurology.health-cares.net/seizure-causes.php



"In general, seizures may be caused by many conditions, diseases, injuries, and other factors. These may include conditions such as the following abnormalities in the blood vessels of the brain, atherosclerosis, or hardening of the arteries supplying the brain, bleeding into the brain, such as a subarachnoid hemorrhage , brain tumors, chromosomal abnormalities, congenital diseases or conditions, high blood pressure, pregnancy and problems associated with pregnancy, stroke, transient ischemic attack, which is also called a mini-stroke.
Diseases also can be a factor in seizures, they include advanced liver disease, Alzheimer's disease and other types of dementia, epilepsy, or a disease of the nervous system, hereditary diseases, infections involving the brain, including encephalitis, brain abscess, and bacterial meningitis, kidney failure, such as chronic renal failure.
Injuries that may cause seizures include choking, head injury such as a motor vehicle accident or sports injury, electrical injuries, injury during birth or in the uterus, poisonous insect bites or stings
Additional factors that may cause seizures include alcohol withdrawal • craniotomy, which is brain surgery, high fever, especially in young children, illegal drugs such as cocaine, lead poisoning, overheating, withdrawal from some medicines, including those used to treat seizures."


Sounds like there's tons of reasons people can develop a seizure dissorder.
:twocents:

 

[sleepingheart]

I read, "Medical DX (medical code for diagnosis) pending ---- results." Can't really tell what the missing word is; could be the initials for a specific type of test.

Just to let you know, That's what I read too.

LOL..So I see most others did too!

 

[Baznme]

Exactly. Presenting that note to a judge would be a colossal waste of time and resources as it is not in any way legible. It would not have even been able to be considered because there is NO WAY to read it.

My interpretation of this script is: Medical Lv (abbr. for Leave) pending labs results.

JMO after many years of pharmacy experience.

 

[Helplessly Hoping]

I just read what the doctor wrote. This is not a lab order that is shown. I am just saying that if the labdraw or blood test was for a Dilantin leval, and it came back as too high or too low, the doctor just adjusts the medication. He is informed of that when the labreport comes back to him or whoever the doctor was that wrote the order for it. The slip I read would be taken back to the receptionist by the patient at the clinic she was at, and when the labs came back, that office would set it up. The doctor would not write: medical treatment pending labs. All IMO from the knowledge I am aware of.

BBM--I respect that you view it differently but I just don't see how a doc's note to return to school or work would require any further documentation like lab results...and I certainly don't see how this document in any way suggests rehab...but this is JMO and I am moving on.....