CT - Jennifer Dulos, 50, deceased/not found, New Canaan, 24 May 2019 *ARRESTS* #63

[citygirl]

Replying to myself here as I just rewatched the license plate drop and FD pulls off to park at 7:47pm, opens his doors to go back in car for a second and then exits at 7:48. FD puts something into trash receptacle then goes to passenger side of truck and it looks like MT hands him the white fedex envelope and he then drops it into storm drain.

I just posted video confirmation below from trial but it was removed by Mod for reasons I don't understand as it was Trial video! So, I won't waste more time reposting images as I am simply giving up.

No. It's in his hand when he exits the car. After it appeared she reached in the back seat and handed it to him. Briefly in his right hand with cup then switches to his left hand.

 

[Southernsnooper]

Just another example of a 'three card monte'. I initially didn't see it because I was fixed on FD going to the receptacle to toss the white envelope that he had in his hands when he exited the truck and unless you slow video down, its not easy to see what is going on with MT, open passenger side door and FD crouching down.

Unreal but feel comfortable this is resolved and LE is correct in how this was described in Court.

Moo

100%

 

[afitzy]

Someone could volunteer to watch the cctv trash bag dumps again to see what the timestamp reads to determine when the tags went down the drainage and when they were at Starbucks, their last stop, in order to compare it to cell phone records for a match. We need a 7:47pm range:

"Police said Dulos’ phone records show him calling Mawhinney on May 24 at 7:47 p.m.–in the time period in which Dulos was allegedly discarding evidence in the case in Hartford."

Who is Kent Mawhinney? | Law & Crime

@DeDee, I posted 3 images of FD and MT on Albany to explain what I think could answer your question but my posts were removed. So, here are the images we saw in Court from the City of Hartford C4 feed.
Summary: FD/MT pull to curb 7:46, FD opens door and then closes it (perhaps to take call at 7:47?), opens door at 7:48 goes to trash receptical and tosses something in, goes to curtsied near where MT is on passenger side and it looks like MT passes FD the white fed ex envelope which he puts into storm drain. View attachment 483076
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[afitzy]

No. It's in his hand when he exits the car. After it appeared she reached in the back seat and handed it to him. Briefly in his right hand with cup then switches to his left hand.

I guess I will go back and watch it for a 4th time.

 

[afitzy]

Parking this information here about OnStar from FBI report.
Information potentially available for JF 2017 Black Suburban as JF had active subscription with OnStar in 2019.

Unclear imo according to below what information might be available from OnStar but does state that, "OnStar only maintains location data that is specific to a car when......There is a request for Stolen Vehicle Assistance or to locate a missing person".

Not sure what exactly is available as OnStar, "...does not create, receive or maintain vehicle activity (lists activities). You can contact the vehicle manufacturers regarding any data their system(s) may have."

Sadly it didn't seem like CSP was able to get location data for the 2017 JF Suburban beyond the fact that it was located on Lapham Road in NC as so far at trial we haven't heard anything about the path taken for the 2017 Suburban JF other than the video camera on Welles that detailed the arrival and departure times of the Vehicle.

 

[citygirl]

I guess I will go back and watch it for a 4th time.

I've watched it twice. He emerges with it in his right hand with cup, switches to left hand , clearly seen when he walks behind the car, then switches to his right hand for the drop.
In her interrogation it got lost when they said you handed it to him. IMO, what they meant was it looked like she reached into the backseat and handed it to him before he got out.

 

[afitzy]

Replying to myself here as I just rewatched the license plate drop and FD pulls off to park at 7:47pm, opens his doors to go back in car for a second and then exits at 7:48. FD puts something into trash receptacle then goes to passenger side of truck and it looks like MT hands him the white fedex envelope and he then drops it into storm drain.

I just posted video confirmation below from trial but it was removed by Mod for reasons I don't understand as it was Trial video! So, I won't waste more time reposting images as I am simply giving up.

Watched video clip for 4th time.

Clarify the following:
When FD exits the truck he is carrying two white items (one could be bag or cup and other was the FedEx envelope). As FD is heading over to the passenger side of the truck he first tosses what looks to be a white bag into the trash receptacle AND THEN he takes a few steps over to the passenger side door (still open as MT had opened it to wipe her hand on sidewalk) and then FD bends over and slides the Fed ex envelope into the storm drain and he is shielded by the truck door and MT still sitting in passenger side of truck.

I've watched it twice. He emerges with it in his right hand with cup, switches to left hand , clearly seen when he walks behind the car, then switches to his right hand for the drop.
In her interrogation it got lost when they said you handed it to him. IMO, what they meant was it looked like she reached into the backseat and handed it to him before he got out.

Yes, it took me awhile to see it but I did finally see what you saw. Amen to that! MOO

 

[afitzy]

Replying to myself here as I just rewatched the license plate drop and FD pulls off to park at 7:47pm, opens his doors to go back in car for a second and then exits at 7:48. FD puts something into trash receptacle then goes to passenger side of truck and it looks like MT hands him the white fedex envelope and he then drops it into storm drain.

I just posted video confirmation below from trial but it was removed by Mod for reasons I don't understand as it was Trial video! So, I won't waste more time reposting images as I am simply giving up.

Watched video clip for 4th time.

Clarify the following:
Truck pulls over on Albany and parks. Inside the truck at 7:47=7:48 MT reaches into back of truck and hands FD white envelope. FD briefly opens and closes his door (7:47 - is this when he takes KM phone call or calls KM?). When FD exits the truck (7:48) he is carrying two white items (one could be bag and other was the FedEx envelope). As FD is heading over to the passenger side of the truck he first tosses what looks to be a white bag into the trash receptacle AND THEN he takes a few steps over to the passenger side door (7:49) (door still open as MT had opened it to wipe her hand on sidewalk but she left her door open) and then FD bends over and slides the Fed ex envelope into the storm drain and is shielded by MT and passenger side door being open.

 

[Morgan10028]

Just parking a reminder to see if State ever confirms the issue of MT daughter not being finished at school on murder date until I think 9pm. This whole story never made sense and being away at school for 12 hrs on a day when most schools had early dismissal never made sense to me. This seems like a long day day for a 10/11 yo. IdK.

Did anyone ever see confirmation of play performance or rehearsal at Ethel Walker?

MOO

From 3:30-7pm on May 24th, 2019 was "Middle School Fun Night" at EWS, then from 7pm-9pm was the Spring Musical for 9th/10th grades. If FD/MT picked up NBT at 9, then she stayed for the Upper School Spring Musical? And it would seem that musical was Chicago? MOO

 

[MX27875]

There was a mention in court the other day of FDs phone pinging in the tree line at 80 MS before PG got his truck that day. I wonder if they found any evidence of anything in the woods.

There was also a mention of a white tyvek suit found in the woods near 4JC when Mawhinney was first released from custody. JS was trying to gain information on how this tyvek suit related to the case. Has anyone heard anything more about the white tyvek suit?

 

[Sillybilly]

ADMIN NOTE;

A decision has been made to allow Harvard Lawyer Lee (Lee Wallace) as a source in this discussion. The OP that was removed has been reinstated, along with all responses.

 

[MX27875]

I made a list of some of the unanswered questions that we still have. My hope is that they will be answered in the next few weeks. Please feel free to add to it:

1. Which route did FD take back to Waveny Park from JDs house?
2. How was FD communicating with co-conspirators when he was in New Canaan that morning? Through spoken communication of expected plans and contingency plans prior to the act or actual long-range communication through burner phones/shorter-range walkie talkies for local communication?
3. Was someone in New Canaan helping Fotis?
4. Why was the DNA evidence not compared to the DNA of Kent Mawhinney?
5. Who bought what and from which stores?
6. Was Kent actually at the Fore Group office that morning?
7. Which date was the black SUV with identical damage seen on Thurton Road?

 

[DeDee]

@DeDee, I posted 3 images of FD and MT on Albany to explain what I think could answer your question but my posts were removed. So, here are the images we saw in Court from the City of Hartford C4 feed.
Summary: FD/MT pull to curb 7:46, FD opens door and then closes it (perhaps to take call at 7:47?), opens door at 7:48 goes to trash receptical and tosses something in, goes to curtsied near where MT is on passenger side and it looks like MT passes FD the white fed ex envelope which he puts into storm drain. View attachment 483076
View attachment 483077

Clarification:

Truck pulls over on Albany and parks. Inside the truck at 7:47=7:48 MT reaches into back of truck and hands FD white envelope. FD briefly opens and closes his door (7:47 - is this when he takes KM phone call or calls KM?). When FD exits the truck (7:48) he is carrying two white items (one could be bag and other was the FedEx envelope). As FD is heading over to the passenger side of the truck he first tosses what looks to be a white bag into the trash receptacle AND THEN he takes a few steps over to the passenger side door (7:49) (door still open as MT had opened it to wipe her hand on sidewalk but she left her door open) and then FD bends over and slides the Fed ex envelope into the storm drain and is shielded by MT and passenger side door being open.

Good work! Thank you for the multiple reviews.

Fotis makes the call to KM.
The question that needs an answer is why would Fotis call KM while in the midst of finishing the dirty deeds of bloody trash deposits, leaving evidence against a store's exterior wall and, in particular, while he's dumping the two license plates down the city drain? I hope we'll hear KM's version of that phone call, if he takes the stand.

"Police said Dulos’ phone records show him calling Mawhinney on May 24 at 7:47 p.m.–in the time period in which Dulos was allegedly discarding evidence in the case in Hartford."
Who is Kent Mawhinney? | Law & Crime

 

[Niner]

Wednesday, February 14th:
*Trial continues (Day 21) (@ 10am ET) – CT – Jennifer Rebecca Farber Dulos (50) (May 24, 2019, New Canaan; still missing) – *Michelle C. Troconis (44/now 49) (Dulos’ GF) arrested & charged (6/1/19) & arraigned (6/3/19) with tampering with or fabricating physical evidence & hindering prosecution. Plead not guilty. $500K bond. Posted bond (on 6/3/19). These charges were dismissed (8/28/20) & recharged below.
*Charged (9/5/19) & arraigned (10/4/19) with tampering with evidence involving the borrowed car from work colleague. Plead not guilty. $100K bond. Posted bond (on 9/5/19). Off GPS 4/6/23.
*Charged (1/7/20) with conspiracy to commit murder. Plead not guilty. $2M bond. Bond reduced (1/8/20) to $1.5M & bonded out (on 1/9/20). Off GPS 4/6/23.
*Charged (8/28/20) with 2nd degree hindering prosecution, tampering with physical evidence & conspiracy to commit tampering with physical evidence. No plea entered yet. $500K bond. Posted bond. Off GPS 4/6/23.
The declaration of death for Jennifer was3 officially issued by Judge William P. Osterndorf on October 24, 2023.
Jury Selection began on 10/4/23 & ended 10/26/23. Another jury selection after dismissed jurors on 1/10/24. Now 6 jurors & 2 alternates. (4 women & 4 men).
Trial began on 1/11/24. (will last about a month to 3/1/24). No court on 2/9 or 2/12/24.
Superior Court Judge Kevin Randolph presiding for trial. Assistant State’s attorney Sean McGuinness & Supervisory assistant State’s attorney Michelle Manning & defense attorneys Jon Schoenhorn & Audrey Felson.
Bond info & Court info from 6/3/19 thru 12/6/23 & Jury Selection Day 1-11 (10/4-10/26/23), 2nd Jury Selection Day 1-2 (1/9 & 1/10/24) & Trial Day 1-20 (1/11-2/8/24) reference post #1046 here:
https://www.websleuths.com/forums/t...-canaan-24-may-2019-arrests-62.703629/page-53
2/13/24 Tuesday: Update: All state courts & administrative offices will be closed on Feb. 13. All cases that were scheduled for Feb. 13 will be rescheduled (including those that would have been conducted remotely) except for TRO's and Civil Protection Orders that will be heard on the next business day.
Trial continues on Wednesday, 2/14/24.

 

[Ruminations]

I've watched it twice. He emerges with it in his right hand with cup, switches to left hand , clearly seen when he walks behind the car, then switches to his right hand for the drop.
In her interrogation it got lost when they said you handed it to him. IMO, what they meant was it looked like she reached into the backseat and handed it to him before he got out.

Hindsight, and all that. But LE didn't let Michelle pin down a narrative. They kept peppering her with questions and interrupting her, so she has a valid argument that what she said isn't what she meant; they didn't let her finish giving a clear answer.

MOO

 

[AbbyG]

Hindsight, and all that. But LE didn't let Michelle pin down a narrative. They kept peppering her with questions and interrupting her, so she has a valid argument that what she said isn't what she meant; they didn't let her finish giving a clear answer.

MOO

The interrogation was a mess. Too many people as has been noted, too much interrupting, no connecting - I thought the interrogation of Chris Watts was a brilliant example of how to do it. I could not understand why they did it this way. That said, she did clearly lie and change her story to create an alibi for herself and FD, that is pretty damning. MOO.

 

[Megnut]

The interrogation was a mess. Too many people as has been noted, too much interrupting, no connecting - I thought the interrogation of Chris Watts was a brilliant example of how to do it. I could not understand why they did it this way. That said, she did clearly lie and change her story to create an alibi for herself and FD, that is pretty damning. MOO.

I think the assembly was based on collective asumption. Active investigation, they needed info fast so everybody came to the table. And that might have been fine if the defendant was blindsided by FD's actions. If she sang like a lark, the various detectives would have spun out of the room with each bit of Intel received.

Such was not to be the case. The minute she contradicted facts as LE had already gathered them, they should have pivoted. Get the likes of Grusing in there to crowbar it out of her with butter.

Or good cop, bad cop. Play to her sense of motherhood? Wasted. Should've played to her sense of entitlement. Or sense of hatred for JFd. Sympathize. Lean in close, play into her currency.

But honestly even her own attorney thought he knew her, thought at most she was an unwitting element.

She is easy for tampering and hindrance.

Conspiracy comes with the planning. Awareness of a crime before one even occurs. Sure, doesn't everyone use somebody else's phone at an agreed upon time, answering a call and then set out on a morning of alibi building, ridiculous selfie and all?

Bring on Interview #3!

JMO

 

[BUF]

On Wednesday, the 21st day of the trial, is expected to start with a suppression hearing regarding Troconis' cellphone records, according to her attorney.
……
However, Schoenhorn said in his new motion that police obtained a new search warrant in October 2023 for the phone records and the prosecution informed him they plan to present the evidence to the jury.

In the new motion, Schoenhorn said the warrant police filed for the records was “overly broad” and “misrepresented the truth.”

The hearing is expected to start at 9:30 a.m.

https://www.ctinsider.com/news/article/michelle-troconis-trial-live-updates-day-21-dulos-18666722.php

 

[Southernsnooper]

Hindsight, and all that. But LE didn't let Michelle pin down a narrative. They kept peppering her with questions and interrupting her, so she has a valid argument that what she said isn't what she meant; they didn't let her finish giving a clear answer.

MOO

Yes, but when they let her speak she’d go off on tangents that were unrelated like the ugly furniture that she didn’t like in the storage unit and how many pairs of jeans Fotis had etc.

It was a pattern and because tine was of the essence, they were trying to keep her focused I believe.

We have to remember a mother of 5 was missing and they believe she possessed information that could help find her.

I believe she has this information and I hope the rest of the trial will prove it. I believe she told too many lies to her family and friends and she’d rather risk it than come clean.

Moo

 

[afitzy]

I think the assembly was based on collective asumption. Active investigation, they needed info fast so everybody came to the table. And that might have been fine if the defendant was blindsided by FD's actions. If she sang like a lark, the various detectives would have spun out of the room with each bit of Intel received.

Such was not to be the case. The minute she contradicted facts as LE had already gathered them, they should have pivoted. Get the likes of Grusing in there to crowbar it out of her with butter.

Or good cop, bad cop. Play to her sense of motherhood? Wasted. Should've played to her sense of entitlement. Or sense of hatred for JFd. Sympathize. Lean in close, play into her currency.

But honestly even her own attorney thought he knew her, thought at most she was an unwitting element.

She is easy for tampering and hindrance.

Conspiracy comes with the planning. Awareness of a crime before one even occurs. Sure, doesn't everyone use somebody else's phone at an agreed upon time, answering a call and then set out on a morning of alibi building, ridiculous selfie and all?

Bring on Interview #3!

JMO

So agree with this view as at the time each of those detectives in that interview room had a portion of the high priority high stress
Investigation and a huge team working for them and the area of the state they were looking at in rough numbers was maybe 100 sq miles giving extra distance on the sides of both crime scenes (new Canaan and Farmington). They also knew that if an accomplice had been in NC that this person could have easily driven outside the tri state area by the time MT was interviewed.

As was said in the OP, MT was not the typical local middle aged mom and I think all the folks in that investigation room had no clue what they were dealing with in MT in the early days of the investigation, Bowman was absolutely snowed and to see him trying to help her and explain things to her in hindsight is a cautionary tale I think on making assumptions about who you are dealing with as well as the Teflon nature and hollow moral core of classic narcs!

I won’t fault LE as they eventually figured out MT and I think what tipped me off that they figured it out was when Atty Colangelo said, “she doesn’t know” or something to that effect. Defence pushed hard to admit this comment and show the doubt of other LE Officers but my belief is that Colangelo said what he said because he saw that she would just continue to lie and change stories. I think he realized also that she is the slippery character that will just say something or agree with something because she thinks it could benefit her or because she thinks it’s what you want to hear. He also saw zero desire and certainly no interest from MT to help for the reasons that most people might wish to help find a missing mom of 5 children. I think also that Atty Colangelo had enough street smarts over the years interviewing perps that he saw that MT had more in common with the street wise self motivated perps than the suburban moms that most of the LE folks in the room initially thought she was. I absolutely believe Atty Colangelo entered the interview wanting to do and deal and left the room and closing the door knowing that a deal would never be possible and MT and her lying would simply waste critical time and resources on his investigation. Colangelo walked away not because MT didn’t know anything but because he knew she would never share what she knew even with a deal.

I think the more I watch those interviews it becomes crystal clear that MT has no core being, she is absolutely motivated solely by self interest and she had zero in common with the values and morals that many of the LE folks ascribed to her in that interview room. MT over and over is asked by LE to tell the truth and what is so fascinating to watch is the look on her face when she is asked for the truth! MT couldn’t tell the truth but even worse, the truth is truly a foreign concept to her as it had nothing to do with who she is a person and never enters her calculus in terms of how to deal with people or a situation. It’s stunning to watch this play out and it’s why I cannot blame LE for initially being bamboozled for a period of time with MT. Truly, I’m not sure even waterboarding a character like MT would have gotten LE any closer to the truth. I do think though that a longer period of no bail or no bond and placing her in jail just might have worked wonders as it would have inconvenienced her in a hostile environment and surrounded her with people she felt were not her equal possibly too. In this calculation I believe Atty Colangelo made a grave error. Bail isn’t supposed to be putative but in the early days of the investigation he could have made argument to hold her pending information and classified her as a flight risk. My guess is he could have done it for a month or so and my guess is that the MT a story in this crime would have emerged and we wouldn’t be sitting here watching here trial imo!

In many ways, MT and FD were the ultimate predators as they had nothing but their entitlement, desire for revenge and anger driving them and they were able to go home and sleep and take a drive for a latte because they felt no shame, no remorse and had no empathy. Never.
MOO