Silver Alert CT - Jennifer Dulos, 50, New Canaan, 24 May 2019 #14 *ARRESTS*

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oviedo said:
that's one of the Fore group properties- I posted the addresses on page 1
123 Hunter Drive - Fore Group Inc.

Haven't heard anything in MSM regarding this address
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Property records show it was owned by the French former employee of Fore Group, not sure if I can write his name here. He’s the one that court records show was lent $75,000 via Side Piece.
 
3blue1pink said:
According to Pattis’ motion, Troconis was overheard on Sunday saying, “she loves Mr. Dulos,” and she does not believe he was involved in his wife’s disappearance.

“She feels badly that Mr. Dulos has been accused of foul play,” Troconis was overheard saying, according to Pattis’ motion.

Pattis said his client wants to speak to Troconis.

“Mr. Dulos would like to make contact with Ms. Troconis to thank her for her kind words,” Pattis wrote in his motion.


Wait !! Didn’t NP say that their is “no love lost” between FD and MT ? So which is it dude ?
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So many issues with this entire exchange in my mind.

My big issue is WHY would an atty or any human being for that matter repeat a private conversation AND THEN BROADCAST IT TO THE WHOLE WORLD via multiple media outlets? What does repeating common gossip say to you about the basic integrity of the individual involved?

To me it says simply that there is NO LINE that this individual won't cross, that he has zero respect for personal privacy and is someone that at the most basic level cannot be trusted ON ANYTHING.

We saw the EXACT same behavior by No Case Norm on the allegedly 'stolen' psych report most recently. Again, the same issues present with No Case Norm of no boundaries, focus on winning at all costs, zero respect for missing victim, zero respect for children of missing victim and frankly next to no respect for basic law as what he did with the report was in contravention of Family Court ruling on the report.

Nothing more in my mind to say about No Case Norm as he has told us precisely who and what he is and by reflection who and what FD is!

Please don't misunderstand this post as I absolutely respect that No Case Norm has a job to do as a defense attorney for FD. BUT, the entire way that he has approached this job/case with extreme victim shaming, questionable ethics regarding releasing private conversations/overheard comments from MT and questionable legality of his actions with regard to the psych report in particular have given me pause to question his motives and his professionalism.

There are many excellent defense attorneys in the US and its possible to do a brilliant job for your client without all the victim shaming, hate speech, cheap shots, fake news and circus like shenanigans that the No Case Norm Circus has brought to this case. MOO!
 
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I'm not sure if you realized that the MT is the girl friend and I was referring to her and not JD in my last entry.
I think the whoops of joy that would be shouted would be heard in China if JD showed up alive, but alas, it isn't to be.
TO Rosiebones:
You are correct I did not see you referring to MT thought JD!!!! My bad.. not enough coffee earlier:)
 
Kapua said:
I'm a big fan of the bike or motor scooter theory for the reasons you mention and the fact that with a helmet on, he would be much less recognizable. I can easily fit my bike in my car and it's much smaller than JD's.
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I think FD is capable of pulling all this off, hate the guy but he is in excellent shape - running, home gym, competitive water skiing, snow skiing. He could have thrown a mountain bike in the car, or jogged thru the bushes - there was less growth that time of year. He also could have gotten the poison ivy during his mad dash back to the crime scene after dropping car at Waveny. All possible.
 
Mrs. M said:
Property records show it was owned by the French former employee of Fore Group, not sure if I can write his name here. He’s the one that court records show was lent $75,000 via Side Piece.
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merrymary said:
Be Gone, Girl': Fotis Dulos Attorney Responds to Author Gillian Flynn's Comments on Missing CT Mom Case

'Be Gone, Girl': Fotis Dulos Lawyer Responds to Comments
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Daisyeve said:
I have a question about trash bag dumping odyssey and sorry if it is common knowledge already or something I thought I read, ( recovering from long illness and brain finally starting to wake up a little) .
Did someone from the Jamaican bakery call in tip about person that looked like FD stuffing something in storm drain or was search due to phone pings?
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Did anyone else here think that No Case Norm sounded more than a wee bit defensive in his statement, almost bordering on peevish?

But more importantly in my mind is the question of whether Pattis would have made his identical statements to a MALE writer of the same stature as Gillian Flynn? It almost sounded as if Pattis was saying to Flynn how dare you have an opinion in this case as what you do isn't serious work and mine is serious work based in "REALITY"? Oh boy, lots to unpack here IMO. Does Pattis have issues with strong and successful women and might this be why he has attacked not only JD so strongly over the past 3 weeks but now a successful writer like Gillian Flynn? Is his goal to completely alienate all potential female jurors in the State of CT? If so, then he is on the right path!

Honestly the entire comment where Pattis finished his statement with a direct shot right at Flynn: "So here’s a message to Gillian: Be gone, girl. There’s serious work to be done here. This isn’t fiction. It’s reality." In my mind this statement is a nanosecond ahead of the classic, "now, now don't worry your pretty head about it dear" or "serious work is men's work" or "let the men handle this".

Oh boy. Buckle up as the jury pool is diminishing by the day if Pattis is seeking to eliminate women. Wonder if he will issue an apology on this statement. Somehow I won't hold my breath waiting as its simply who he is. Stunning how similar Pattis seems to be in his views towards women to those that came through loud and clear in the Family Court documents about FD. Two more peas in a pod!
 
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kimch33kim said:
Yes. 123 Hunter Dr. He also bought a Ford Focus for that Frenchmen. That's what I was wondering if we discussed it yet.
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No, we haven't discussed the $75,000 loan other than to say it happened and the Ford Focus hasn't been brought up yet.

We don't know what it was for, why the loan came from MT (and did she borrow the money from FD somehow?) and when/if ever the loan is to be repaid. We need more information. Was this severance for a contract that was terminated early? Was this money owed to this individual? Does the loan have to be repaid? What do we know about the person that the loan was made to?

We know that FORE has no employees other than FD so any work is done by subs. Did someone post the loan documents in the media thread or were they placed in the prior thread when this issue was brought up? It seems like its impt to resolve what this is to better understand what was happening at FORE IMO.
 
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I really really thought they’d have her body by now. Even just part of it. (I hate typing that.) I guess they very well COULD have it, but just aren’t releasing that info yet. I can’t believe he’s out trotting around, free to enjoy the comforts of his home. I thought this was one of the most obvious cases, and he’d be setting in jail til trial. I guess you just never know. If he gets away with this, that would be one of the biggest tragedies ever. jmo
 
afitzy said:
Did anyone else here think that No Case Norm sounded more than a wee bit defensive in his statement, almost bordering on peevish?

But more importantly in my mind is the question of whether Pattis would have made his identical statements to a MALE writer of the same stature as Gillian Flynn? It almost sounded as if Pattis was saying to Flynn how dare you have an opinion in this case as what you do isn't serious work and mine is serious work based in "REALITY"? Oh boy, lots to unpack here IMO. Does Pattis have issues with strong and successful women and might this be why he has attacked not only JD so strongly over the past 3 weeks but now a successful writer like Gillian Flynn? Is his goal to completely alienate all potential female jurors in the State of CT? If so, then he is on the right path!

Honestly the entire comment where Pattis finished his statement with a direct shot right at Flynn: "So here’s a message to Gillian: Be gone, girl. There’s serious work to be done here. This isn’t fiction. It’s reality." In my mind this statement is a nanosecond ahead of the classic, "now, now don't worry your pretty head about it dear" or "serious work is men's work" or "let the men handle this".

Oh boy. Buckle up as the jury pool is diminishing by the day if Pattis is seeking to eliminate women. Wonder if he will issue an apology on this statement. Somehow I won't hold my breath waiting as its simply who he is. Stunning how similar Pattis seems to be in his views towards women to those that came through loud and clear in the Family Court documents about FD. Two more peas in a pod!
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Above BBM....to add to the response from the water skiing lady....who I think lives in New York:
[QUOTEIn the summer of 2017, we were devastated to hear that the older boys had to decline the HWWF invitation to train and participate, for their first time, in the Junior Europeans held in Spain. The Dulos children have not competed since and it is our understanding that Jennifer does not want them to continue water-skiing. We hope, for the sake of the children, that they will be eventually reunited with their father, extended family and friends, and that they will be given the opportunity to follow their hearts and practice what they love. We miss them dearly. [/QUOTE]

I keep wondering about all the emphasis on the two oldest male children. What were the other kids doing during these competitions? Does that say anything about FD's mindset regarding girls/women? Are they relegated to being cheerleaders for their older brothers? Something about this is making me uncomfortable.

And, the idea that ALL of the children loved water skiing is a farfetched idea for anyone who has had children or worked with children. Kids in a family often look for their own niche...IMOO....
 
StarEyes said:
I really really thought they’d have her body by now. Even just part of it. (I hate typing that.) I guess they very well COULD have it, but just aren’t releasing that info yet. I can’t believe he’s out trotting around, free to enjoy the comforts of his home. I thought this was one of the most obvious cases, and he’d be setting in jail til trial. I guess you just never know. If he gets away with this, that would be one of the biggest tragedies ever. jmo
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JMHO, he will not get away with this, particularly because 1) His DNA was (allegedly) mixed with her blood on the kitchen faucet; 2) He was allegedly caught on multiple video cameras disposing of evidence; 3) He had a strong motive and JD had expressed to the court that she was afraid of FD, and 4) IMHO this is clearly not a suicide, nor would it be typical for a random killer to clean up the crime scene and move the body. The evidence is there, but LE wants to find the victim's body. All IMHO.
 
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I think we need to be careful about naming names of people that are not POI or suspects. If someone wants to link the case files for me (again) I can add that to the timeline although it is getting very long IMO. I can't look today - thanks
 
3blue1pink said:
Any one know when the vehicle swap took place ? I was thinking about the timeline and the phone ping at 1:37 on SB road . Could someone else have had his phone and he had a burner in place of it ? Was he actually seen by anyone at SB ? A lot questions still out in the ether .
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LE says vehicle swap took place between 4:00 pm and 5:30 pm. This is listed at the beginning of every thread.

The record reflects the phone ping of 1:37 pm at Mountain Spring Road. I am not familiar with SB Road?

According to LE's timeline at the beginning of this thread, IMO, the vehicle exchange took place at 17:21 (5:21 pm), which fits within LE's approximation.

IMO, at 3:38 pm, FD left EE's truck at 80 MS and Walked home, arriving at 4:17 pm at 4JC.

Google maps confirms that those two homes could be walked in 40 minutes and FD walked it in 39 minutes, according to the phone pings.

IMO, EE picked up FD from 4JC and they traveled together, arriving at 80 MS at 5:21 pm for the vehicle exchange.

IMO, FD left EE's Red Truck at 80 MS and walked home, so that FD could mislead EE into thinking that the Red Truck had Never left 80 MS that Friday.

FD's phone then arrives back at 4JC at 5:34 pm.

Google maps denotes that the round trip takes 10 minutes and IMO, the additional 3 minutes was used to load the 30+ trash bags into FD's Ford Raptor.

IMO, and Only IMO, FD had EE load the bags onto FD's Ford Raptor, so that EE's fingerprints would be all over the bags.

IMO, FD was Setting Up EE as the main plan or as the backup plan and therefore FD Needed EE's fingerprints On those bags.

IMO, FD held onto the altered license plates and 30+ trash bags for 10+ hours, just so that FD could Set Up EE.

IMO, and Only IMO, EE lives near the more than 4 mile stretch of Albany Avenue in the Hartford Area, where FD's 'Trash Bin Odyssey of Stupidity Date Night' occurred with MT on that Friday.

IMO, FD wanted the altered license plates found, to fit into his plan of setting up EE.

FD could have just taken the altering tape off the plates and put the plates back where FD had them stored or just thrown them away in any trash receptacle earlier in the day.

IMO, there is No Way that FD planned to return for the plates when there were literally hundreds of other locations better suited for retrieval.

Once the Fedex package was in the storm drain, it could very easily wash up Anywhere and IMO, that is exactly what FD wanted to happen.

IMO, FD left the altering tape on the plates as part of his ploy.

IMO, FD placed the altered plates on EE's Red Truck that Friday, so that FD could 'reasonably' use the Red Truck 'undetected' as being EE's Red Truck.

FD needed to make sure that the Red Truck could not be identified while in NC so that FD could reasonably mislead EE into thinking that FD did Not drive EE's Red Truck that Friday.

IMO, FD Needed EE to think that EE's red truck Never left 80 MS that Friday.

The ONE big question?

Why would FD hold onto 30+ bags and two altered vehicle plates, for 10+ Hours???????

IMO and Only IMO, FD was setting up EE.

IMO, FD's extremely altered hair cut could have been done to look more like EE.

I am SO Glad that EE immediately retained a top notch attorney and I am SO Glad that LE has stated that EE is Not a suspect.
 
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